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@blatham,

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He is seeking at all costs to avoid accountability.

He is calling the MSM liars. It is not silencing or bullying. It is stating a fact. What is the president accountable for he is trying to avoid?

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@blatham,

This is a funny statement considering the MSM has done nothing but bad press coverage of him, even to the point where they don't mention or report on the good things that happen in his administration. ABC was recently busted for such coverage when they had to fire one of the people for being exposed by Project Veritas. The guy admitted that the company does everything they can to supress postitive coverage of Trump.

As for whistle-blowers, I'm wondering which ones have ended up behind bars like Obama did with whistle-blowers who spoke out against him. Lets also not forget that Obama was able to fire everyone he didn't want in the WH, while Trump has been forced to hold on to Obama appointed people. How many non-loyal people do you think Obama had in the WH? None.

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@Baldimo,

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I'm wondering which ones have ended up behind bars like Obama did with whistle-blowers who spoke out against him.

How about the one who was just shot? Phillip Haney. This is the guy who said the information Obama had deleted about Muslims with ties to terror could have prevented the San Bernadino terror attack. 14 people died.

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@coldjoint,

Has he ever admitted to being wrong or accepted blame or apologized for anything (that’s what taking accountability involves, by the way)?

Or, maybe you think that unless someone can convince you otherwise, he’s simply not been the party responsible for anything bad during his presidency.

Is that your answer - “Point our anything Donald Trump has gotten wrong”?

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@snood,

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Has he ever admitted to being wrong or accepted blame or apologized for anything

Blame for what, and apologize for what? Would you like him to make something up like the MSM does?

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@snood,

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Has he ever admitted to being wrong or accepted blame or apologized for anything (that’s what taking accountability involves, by the way)?

Accountability... that's funny considering Obama spent 6 out of his 8 years blaming all the ills of his administration on Bush. This was mentioned many many times during the Obama admin, that he and the press never spoke poorly about his time in office, it was always someone else's fault.

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Or, maybe you think that unless someone can convince you otherwise, he’s simply not been the party responsible for anything bad during his presidency.

What exactly has gone bad while he was on office? The economy was doing fantastic until this hype about the coronavirus started making major news.

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Is that your answer - “Point our anything Donald Trump has gotten wrong”?

I'm still waiting for the media to report fairly on the Trump admin. We already know thanks to Project Veritas that the major news agencies are suppressing good news about the Trump admin, ask yourself why they haven't reported on the good things and only report the bad?

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@Baldimo,

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...even to the point where they don't mention or report on the good things that happen in his administration.

What would those be again?

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How many non-loyal people do you think Obama had in the WH?

What-aboutism — good way to try to shift attention from ongoing current events to the superficial. Still hung up on Obama...let me clue you in — he left office in January '17.

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@Baldimo,

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The economy was doing fantastic until this hype about the coronavirus started making major news.

No it wasn't. The stock market was. Overall economic growth was nothing like the 4-5% promised by Trump. By the way, it's not "hype". It's spread to fifty-three nations. You're pathetic, simply mouthing the Mulvaney line, as if this disease were cooked up specifically to make your stupid president look even worse.

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@hightor,

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It's spread to fifty-three nations.

And that is somehow Trump's fault?

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as if this disease were cooked up specifically to make your stupid president look even worse.

Are you saying the MSM is not using the virus against Trump? They are worried about a political advantage, not loss of life. They are ghouls, hoping enough will die so Trump loses an election. Heartless bastards.

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@coldjoint,

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And that is somehow Trump's fault?

If you think so. I never suggested that.

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Are you saying the MSM is not using the virus against Trump?

Yes. Are you saying that stocks haven't fallen worldwide? What, you don't want the media to report bad news because you think it reflects on your stupid president?

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@coldjoint,

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Blame for what, and apologize for what?

Colluding with Russia doncha know... DT does that all the time and in fact that's the normal answer I give people who ask how somebody who does not speak Russian can collude with Russia; the answer is by attending Christian church services, Russia being sort of the capital of the Christian world these days. Donald Trump does that a lot.

https://steemit.com/life/@gungasnake/looking-at-russia-the-wrong-way

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@hightor,

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What would those be again?

See, the media has been doing their anti-Trump job if you don't know even one thing he has done.

USMCA trade agreement
First Step Act
Taking out ISIS and their leader
Space Force

He has also seen unemployment stay at record low levels when it was said by everyone on the left that he would kill the economy.

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What-aboutism — good way to try to shift attention from ongoing current events to the superficial. Still hung up on Obama...let me clue you in — he left office in January '17.

What the left calls whataboutism, everyone else calls hypocrisy. The point being when Obama fired all those people, you didn't care, Trump does it and it's a travesty. Obama spent 6 of his 8 years blaming the guy before him for everything that didn't go right, and now they can't even give Trump credit for the things he does right.

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@Baldimo,

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The economy was doing fantastic until this hype about the coronavirus started making major news.

I sincerely doubt that many share the idea that it is a "hype", especially those who are (were) effected by the deadly virus.

But when the virus becomes a pandemic, perhaps you'll change your opinion.

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@hightor,

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Yes. Are you saying that stocks haven't fallen worldwide?

I did not say that. The virus is simply not Trump's fault, that is what I said.

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@Baldimo,

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USMCA trade agreement
First Step Act
Taking out ISIS and their leader
Space Force

I'm aware of all those things. As far as I'm concerned they're simply examples of a president doing his job and don't merit special acclaim. The "Space Force" is mostly PR and could have been handled within the Air Force. Isis may rise again. The First Step Act was bi-partisan. We'll see how the USMCA pans out — it was due for revisiting as it was crafted during the Clinton administration.

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He has also seen unemployment stay at record low levels when it was said by everyone on the left that he would kill the economy.

That's because there's a labor shortage due to demographics and a drop in immigration.

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...Trump does it and it's a travesty.

No, it's not a "travesty". Presidents have the right to hire and fire. Your stupid president just does it in a way which looks petty and vindictive and the people he chooses as replacements are largely incompetent people chosen for their perceived loyalty to Trump himself.

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@hightor,

re the earlier discussion on Brooks' piece

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Jon Favreau
@jonfavs
Does someone want to let David Brooks know that Bernie’s major piece of legislation was a veterans health care bill he co-sponsored with John McCain, and that he passed more bipartisan amendments in a Republican Congress than any other member?

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@coldjoint,

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I did not say that. The virus is simply not Trump's fault, that is what I said.

And the economic consequences of the pandemic are not the fault of the media, that is what I said. Do you think they shouldn't be reported?

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@blatham,

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Does someone want to let David Brooks know that Bernie’s major piece of legislation was a veterans health care bill he co-sponsored with John McCain, and that he passed more bipartisan amendments in a Republican Congress than any other member?

So he has one major piece of legislation that is predictably sacrosanct because it deal with veterans. His "roll call amendments" are an unusual way of measuring his effectiveness. I suspect the Brooks knows this. It's beside the point he was trying to make.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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effected by the deadly virus.

It is killing no more than influenza. A pandemic for the ages.

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@hightor,

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No it wasn't.

See you keep watching the anti-Trump news networks who have a vested interest in lying about Trumps economy. They like you want to see a Dem elected to office and will do whatever they can to make it happen. As I already noted, ABC just fired someone who admitted to Project Veritas that they were suppressing good news about the Trump admin. We all know it is happening since the MSM have Russia, Russia, Russia on the brain.

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The stock market was.

So is every other economic indicator pointing to an excellent economy. The left has to lie and claim if it doesn't work for everyone, then the economy sucks. They didn't feel that way when Obama was President and the economy wasn't as good as it is now. They took 2 years of stagnant economy and did everything they could to make it look good, now they do the opposite to make Trump look bad.

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Overall economic growth was nothing like the 4-5% promised by Trump.

That also don't mean the economy is doing bad. It just means it hasn't grown like he wants it to. Can you show where the economy is bad? Unemployement is down, wages are up.

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By the way, it's not "hype". It's spread to fifty-three nations.

We have heard all of this before with SARs, and Swine flu and a few other "deadly" things that have gone around the world in the last 15 years or so. This doesn't seem to be worse than those, except in how fast it is spreading. The flu still has a higher mortality rate.

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You're pathetic, simply mouthing the Mulvaney line, as if this disease were cooked up specifically to make your stupid president look even worse.

I haven't heard anything said by Mulvaney, so I don't know what you are talking about. As for making Trump look bad, that's what the media is doing go help the DNC candidates. Claiming he cut funding when Congress hasn't approved the budget... yeah the MSM is doing the DNC dirty work for them.

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