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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 04:55 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Trump derangement syndrome is an imaginary illness that exists only in the minds of fanatical right wing extremists.

Guess again.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201901/is-trump-derangement-syndrome-real-mental-condition
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 06:11 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed by the policies, speech, behavior, and tweets of President Trump, so much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral functioning. Such people may need mental health support. As such, further research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions toward President Trump, in the same way that researchers investigate other extreme social phenomena, such as Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on the reality of this emerging folk category that has been labelled by many as "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

It sounds like more research is needed; it all seems pretty anecdotal. What I'd like to know is how the researchers would be able to distinguish between psychological conditions caused by solely by people's perceptions of, and reactions to, Trump, and and psychological conditions exacerbated by the generally bad news from all around the world. I think it's likely that Trump is getting too much credit (or blame) for a widespread sense that our political institutions aren't up to the global task of dealing with the social and environmental challenges which await us.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 06:49 am
@hightor,
The Stalin Derangement Syndrome was also a thing. They found treatments for it though.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 08:40 am
The golden thoughts of Rush Limbaugh
Quote:
But for these people that we’re up against — look, they lose to Trump, and what have they done the past three years? You think they care what public opinion is? They have utter disdain for it. They’re doing everything they can to overturn the election results.

CNN poll: 51% say Senate should remove Trump from office
ABC news: 66% call for witnesses in Trump's impeachment trial: Poll
And of course, 3 million more americans voted for clinton than trump
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 08:45 am
If Orwell, when he was writing 1984, had a glimpse of our present technological capabilities, he would almost certainly have used what you'll see in the embedded video.
Watch Drones Scold Civilians for Not Wearing Masks in China

PS... is anyone here familiar enough with Chinese culture/history to know whether the uses heard in the video of "auntie" and "uncle" predate the communist regime or are products of it?
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 08:53 am
Quote:
Iraq has named a new prime minister after four months of protests.

Mohammed Tawfiq Allawi, a former communications minister, was appointed by President Barham Salih.

His predecessor Adel Abdul Mahdi resigned in November, amid mass anti-government demonstrations. Hundreds of protesters have been killed.

Mr Allawi now has a month to form a new government, which he will lead until early elections. He immediately expressed support for the protests.

Earlier this week, local media reported that President Saleh had given parliament an ultimatum to decide on a new prime minister before he took the decision himself, after previous candidates were rejected by protesters.

In a video released on his social media accounts on Saturday, Mr Allawi announced that he had been nominated and called on Iraqis to continue protesting until their demands were met.

"If not for your sacrifices and your bravery, there would have been no change in the country," he said. "I believe in you, and for this reason I will ask you to continue protesting."

He promised to hold those responsible for the killing of protesters accountable and to combat corruption.

Mr Allawi, who is Shia, studied and worked in Lebanon and the UK before entering Iraqi politics following the 2003 invasion. He served as minister of communications twice.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51342053
blatham
 
  4  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 09:09 am
So, a straight up admission that Trump did do exactly what the House investigation found.
Quote:
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) said in a new interview set to air Sunday that President Donald Trump’s actions have been proven, but that they are “a long way” from impeachable.

Alexander’s vote, along with 50 of his Senate Republican colleagues’, tipped the scales against the Senate hearing new witnesses at President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial.

In a statement accompanying the announcement of his vote Thursday, Alexander said that the “there is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the United States Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense.”

Alexander essentially acknowledged in the statement, and in a new interview with NBC News’ Chuck Todd that’s set to air in full Sunday, that the House managers were successful in proving their case.

“He called the President of Ukraine and asked him to become involved in investigating Joe Biden,” Alexander said in the interview, referring to Trump. “Second thing, was that at least in part, he delayed the military and other assistance to Ukraine in order to encourage that investigation.”

In his statement, Alexander called Trump’s behavior “inappropriate.” To Todd, he added that Trump “shouldn’t have done it.”

“I think it was wrong […] improper, crossing the line.”

But it wasn’t enough for impeachment, said the senator, who is retiring in 2020.

“I think what he did is a long way from treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors,” Alexander said. “I don’t think it’s the kind of inappropriate action that the framers would expect the Senate to substitute its judgement for the people in picking a president.”
TPM

There's no bottom for these guys. And now it's going to get worse. Trump has licence to do anything at all because Republicans will not ever admit that Trump's acts, no matter what they are, constitute their shifting definitions of what is impeachable.
snood
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 10:58 am
@blatham,
Yeah, really bad. They go from denying something happened, to denying it happened that way, to admitting it happened but it’s not wrong, to admitting it’s wrong but not illegal, to admitting it’s illegal but not impeachable. Just whatever needs to be said at the moment to excuse whatever vile fuckery their idol is doing. And our system doesn’t seem equipped to handle an entire political party that has abdicated their responsibility to do the people’s will, or even what’s right.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 11:10 am
@snood,
While I'm not a Republican, that certainly isn't how my position evolved.

I started off by saying "There is no evidence so far that it happened, and there would not be anything wrong about it if it did happen."

I ended up saying "OK there is now proof that it happened, but still no proof that Mr. Trump's motives were political in nature. And there still would not be anything wrong with it even if there really had been evidence that his motivations were political in nature."
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 11:45 am
@snood,
Quote:
Yeah, really bad.

You know Trump cannot be beat in an election. The really bad is on the Democrats. It reinforces the fact that Democrats hate the voters.
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 11:50 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
It reinforces the fact that Democrats hate the voters.

I know we usually see things pretty much the same way, comrade, but I'm not sure I follow you here — how does Snood's chain of irresponsibility reinforce your contention that "Democrats hate the voters"?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:01 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
reinforce your contention that "Democrats hate the voters"?

Because it is evident he wanted Trump removed. That would disenfranchise 63 million voters. And take the man they want off the ballot. That is a way that shows hate for their decision and them.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:10 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Iraq has named a new prime minister after four months of protests.

You keep up with Islam. Strange after what it has done to the children and your country. The BBC is almost as biased as Al Jazzera.
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farmerman
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:42 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Because it is evident he wanted Trump removed. That would disenfranchise 63 million voters.
And it would help assauage the 66 million that didnt vote for him. Not to mention how the electoral college disenfranchises voters of big states
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:42 pm
Speak of the Devil
Quote:
Quote:
Breaking! Terror attack in London, several stabbed, attacker shot by police

Quote:
Several people have been stabbed in Streatham, south London, and a man has been shot dead by police in what they describe as a “terrorist-related” incident.

Images on social media show a person face down on the ground outside Boots, with a police officer holding a gun next to a black BMW with emergency lights.

What does Al Jazzera have to say about this?
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-terror-attack-in-london-several-stabbed-attacker-shot-by-police/
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:54 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
What does Al Jazzera have to say about this?

Supposed, you were referring to Al Jazeera - they published the news correctly, like any other media:
Quote:
Police have shot dead a man in south London after two people were stabbed in what police described as a "terrorism-related incident".
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:54 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Not to mention how the electoral college disenfranchises voters of big states

No, it doesn't. It was installed to stop large concentrations of the population from running things. If the Democrats won it would not be an issue.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 12:56 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
they published the news correctly, like any other media:

Correctly Qatar style, the country owns Al Jazzera. How many other state owned media outlets do you trust? China, NK, Iran?
farmerman
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 01:05 pm
@coldjoint,
It was extremely shortsighted. Read the Federalist papers, the argument will , should this country survive, be a central issue of how we select the chief executive. (along with "winner take all" electoral college voting" (which is not in the Constitution)

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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 2 Feb, 2020 01:05 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Correctly Qatar style, the country owns Al Jazzera. How many other state owned media outlets do you trust? China, NK, Iran?
Since this was copied from the police report and printed in English - I only speak German, English, French, a bit Dutch but neither Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, or Persian.
Sorry to be only so little educated.

However, I copied my above quote from the Al Jazeera website, which might to different to Al Jazzera you are referring to.
 

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