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BillW
 
  3  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 05:48 pm
@snood,
.......and the other willing to buy. But, the order of which comes first is irrelevant.
snood
 
  2  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 06:00 pm
@BillW,
You’re right
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 06:18 pm
@blatham,
Your video is another fine example of MSM narrative saturating everything with anti-Trump bias. But hey, no one is brainwashed here.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 06:30 pm
@coldjoint,
The republican mantra, dont believe you senses,believe what I tell you is true.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 06:52 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
The republican mantra, dont believe you senses,believe what I tell you is true.

That is projection, and if you don't realize that it is, it is too late. Someone is brainwashed. I wont mention any names.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 07:07 pm

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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 10 Nov, 2019 11:50 pm
@RABEL222,
Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling – from supporters
Quote:
Donald Trump Jr ventured on to the University of California’s overwhelmingly liberal Los Angeles campus on Sunday, hoping to prove what he had just argued in his book – that a hate-filled American left was hell-bent on silencing him and anyone else who supported the Trump presidency.

But the appearance backfired when his own supporters, diehard Make America Great Again conservatives, raised their voices most loudly in protest and ended up drowning him out barely 20 minutes into an event scheduled to last two hours.

The audience was angry that Trump Jr and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, would not take questions. The loud shouts of “USA! USA!” that greeted Trump when he first appeared on the stage of a university lecture hall to promote his book Triggered: How The Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us quickly morphed into even louder, openly hostile chants of “Q and A! Q and A!”
[...]
The fiasco pointed to a factional rift on the Trump-supporting conservative right that has been growing rapidly in recent weeks, particularly among “zoomers” – student-age activists. On one side are one of the sponsors of Trump Jr’s book tour, Turning Point USA, a campus conservative group with a track record of bringing provocative rightwing speakers to liberal universities.

On the other side are far-right activists – often referred to as white supremacists and neo-Nazis, although many of them reject such labels – who believe in slamming the door on all immigrants, not just those who cross the border without documents, and who want an end to America’s military and diplomatic engagement with the wider world.

A number of the loudest voices at Sunday’s event were supporters of Nick Fuentes, a 21-year-old activist with a podcast called America First that has taken particular aim at Turning Point USA and its 25-year-old founder, Charlie Kirk. In a number of his own recent campus appearances, Kirk has faced questions accusing him of being more interested in supporting Israel than in putting America first. He has responded by calling his detractors conspiracists and racists.

On Sunday, Kirk appeared alongside Trump Jr. and Guilfoyle but said nothing.

Two Fuentes supporters, delighted with the outcome of Trump Jr’s appearance, later told the Guardian the pro-Trump movement was being infected with “fake conservatism” and that the president himself was at the mercy of a cabal of deep state operatives who wouldn’t let him do many of the things he campaigned on.

The pair, who called themselves Joe and Orion Miles, said: “It was an absolute disaster for them. We wanted to ask questions about immigration and about Christianity, but they didn’t want to face those questions.”

Also, if Trump Jr was expecting “triggered” leftwingers to clamour for his silence, he did not get it. No more than 35 protesters showed up and, despite making a lot of noise with drums and whistles and shouts of “Trump-Pence Out Now!”, resisted taunts and insults from provocateurs in Make America Great Again hats from across a line of metal barriers.

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Olivier5
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 01:29 am
@BillW,
I would think Bloomberg knows a thing or two about media, and could turn FAUX News into a bona fide news outlet.
Lash
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 02:42 am
@Olivier5,
Yay! Complete ownership of the US media by billionaires is a great idea!!
roger
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 03:08 am
@Lash,
Well, it would have to be a billionaire is kind of a given, isn't it?
snood
 
  2  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 03:10 am
Has the media ever not been owned by the rich?
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Builder
 
  0  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 03:18 am
@Lash,
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Complete ownership of the US media by billionaires is a great idea!!


Uncle Rupert even owns tiny regional news rags down under, and "our" ABC has had its funding slashed, and its directors infiltrated with govt patsies.
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Lash
 
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Mon 11 Nov, 2019 04:54 am
I like the models of The Intercept, Truthdig, Truthout, The Medium company—where journalists contribute stories of interest and the companies solicit donations from readers.

You get actual news instead of what some billionaires want you to believe.

I need to start supporting some of these news outlets.

Bernie has a proposal to keep our news outlets smaller and less influential.

I’ll see if I can find a concise copy.
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Lash
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 04:55 am
@roger,
Only if we say so.
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 08:44 am
@snood,
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I’ve seen a bunch of people suggesting that Bloomberg “acquire” Fox News. I’m confused. Doesn’t something have to be for sale before someone buys it?
Of course. And as Fox is the key vehicle for Murdoch's psychopathy (and profites) it's hard to imagine he'd let it go. Still, there are people easily rich enough to toss a couple of billion his way.

But there's a related notion here - that some multi-billionaire(s) with left-leaning morals easily could build a news organization to counter the influence of Fox and that, if they really do want to help out, that would be a productive way to do it rather than, as Bloomberg seems to be considering, moving into a political slot where they can dominate the nation.
blatham
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 08:49 am
@BillW,
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Wow, that could be total disastrous to a democracy in the wrong hands! A Presidential nominee
The notion isn't a Berlusconi situation where the Prime Minister achieves and holds power via his ownership of key media. Rather, the idea is that Bloomberg forgets the political run and does the other.

But none of this is going to happen. It is however instructive to imagine it.
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hightor
 
  2  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 09:12 am
@blatham,
Quote:
But there's a related notion here - that some multi-billionaire(s) with left-leaning morals...

Let me put in a call to George Soros.
snood
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 09:17 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:


But there's a related notion here - that some multi-billionaire(s) with left-leaning morals easily could build a news organization to counter the influence of Fox and that, if they really do want to help out, that would be a productive way to do it rather than, as Bloomberg seems to be considering, moving into a political slot where they can dominate the nation.


I have a thought about building a Lefty news organization to counter Faux.

Just as comedy doesn’t seem to be in right wingers’ DNA ( you never see any really funny conservative comedians), State-news demagoguery doesn’t seem to me to be something liberals and progressives would be good at. TYT is about as close as we come, but I can only take them in small doses.
blatham
 
  1  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 09:20 am
@hightor,
Please do. He hasn't responded to the message I left for him.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 11 Nov, 2019 09:23 am
@snood,
You put your finger on a key difference. It's rather like the problem of stepping into the boxing right with a guy who has a chainsaw and no inhibitions about using it.
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