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edgarblythe
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 11:03 am
@fbaezer,
I also didn't know about the flashers. I miss all the good stuff.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 11:10 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I also didn't know about the flashers. I miss all the good stuff.


Sounds like someone wants a dick pic.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/12/28/18/richard-nixon.jpg?w968h681

Enjoy.
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blatham
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 11:25 am
@fbaezer,
Well, hello Mr fbaezer

American networks are constitutionally reluctant to cause offence. Their behavior is similar to mine when I'm visiting with the in-laws.
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 12:03 pm
@coldjoint,
That happened a year ago. How many times has it been reported already to make it seem like theres some sort of wave when there isn.t. what about the tx shooter tsrgeting hispanics. The righ is in no wlay innocent.what about charlottrsville driver whonplwed his car into a cropwd. Youre fyll of it joint.
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blatham
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 12:41 pm
OK. Fair is fair. When Liz Cheney gets something right, it ought to be noted.
Quote:
Republican leaders called out conservatives who have been attacking Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and other witnesses in the House impeachment investigation on Tuesday.

After complaining about Democrats’ handling of the investigation during a House Republican leadership presser, House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-WY) switched tracks.

“Now I also want to say a word about something else that’s been going on over the course of the last several hours and last night which I think is also shameful,” she said. “And that is questioning the patriotism, questioning the dedication to country, of people like Mr. Vindman, Lt. Col. Vindman, who will be coming today, and others who have testified.”

The Republican lawmaker urged for Vindman’s critics to “show that we are better than that as a nation.”

“We’re talking about decorated veterans who have served this nation, who’ve put their lives on the line, and it is shameful to question their patriotism, their love of this nation, and we should not be involved in that process,” she continued.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD), the Senate’s second highest-ranking Republican, also chided Republicans who have been smearing Vindman.

“That guy’s a Purple Heart,” Thune told Politico. “I think it would be a mistake to attack his credibility.”

“You can obviously take issue with the substance and there are different interpretations about all that stuff. But I wouldn’t go after him personally,” he added. “He’s a patriot.”

Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO), the No. 4 Republican in the Senate, also told Politico he “wouldn’t be on board” with criticizing Vindam.

“This is the career military officer with a purple heart? I’m sure he’s doing his best to serve his country,” he said.

Though Cheney nor Thune did not specify who they were referring to, the last several days have seen President Donald Trump and his Republican allies bash Vindman and acting Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor, two key witnesses in the impeachment probe who served in the Vietnam War...
TPM

That said, it is exceedingly rare to see her take a position that isn't fraught with deceptive spin and/or which isn't geared towards her own personal ambitions and her extremist ideology. Here we can see an example of her forwarding the militarist goals of the neoconservative camp her father represents.

But it is interesting to see her criticize Fox even if she is without the honesty to name it.
hightor
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 12:54 pm
@blatham,
I wonder if Cheney, Blunt, and Thune are preparing to retire...
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blatham
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 12:55 pm
I doubt there's anyone who'd wager against this thesis/prediction.
Quote:
If Trump Is Impeached or Defeated, Conservatives Will Call It a ‘Coup’

“At some point it won’t just be marches on Capitol Hill from a few Republican congressmen that the Resistance will have to deal with,” writes Mollie Hemingway. “It is unclear what the proper reaction to an unrelenting campaign to overturn the result of the 2016 election should be exactly, but they should stop expecting people to be as polite as they have been in response.”

Is that a threat? Well, it isn’t not a threat.

Hemingway, a senior editor at the Federalist, Fox News contributor, and senior journalism fellow at Hillsdale College, occupies an important place in the right-wing media universe. She sits at the nexus between the most transparently insane conspiracy theorists of the alt-right and blue-blood conservative institutions, and receives regular Twitter praise from Trump. Her opus provides a window into the party’s rage and a directional sign of its strategic course.

As the impeachment produces ever more redundant proof that President Trump corrupted foreign policy for political gain, Republican thoughts are beginning to turn toward what leftists delicately term “direct action,” and what conservatives usually call — at least when the other side is doing it — “mob rule.” The storming and disruption of a bipartisan House Intelligence Committee last week may just be a start.

At no point in her manifesto does Hemingway attempt even a cursory defense of Trump’s conduct in the Ukraine scandal. Instead, she repeats her oft-stated claim that the Russia investigation was a deep-state coup, and presents the Ukraine scandal as an extension of the same effort, sparing her the difficulty of explaining away the damning combination of internal communications, testimony, and on-camera confessions establishing Trump’s scheme to leverage American influence over Ukraine for his political ends. The closest she comes is to dismiss the entire scandal as “something something Ukraine.” (“Following a few returning visits to the 25th Amendment fever swamps, where Resistance members fantasize that they could get Trump’s cabinet to undo the 2016 election, or speculation that Trump might resign, they have landed on something something Ukraine.”)

Hemingway likewise makes no effort to support her premise that Republicans have been “polite” in response to impeachment. The White House sent out a raving, legally absurd note claiming for Trump the right to decide when Congress does and does not have the right to impeach him. It has accordingly refused any cooperation with the process, withholding, or attempting to withhold, all testimony and related documents it can block.

So what does Hemingway mean when she wants Republicans to stop being polite and start getting real? She cites as a model the infamous Brooks Brothers riot from 2000. During that episode, Republican staffers disrupted the vote recount in Miami-Dade, a process that they feared would increase the vote count for Al Gore. (It later turned out that Miami-Dade had few uncounted Gore votes.) Hemingway justifies the riot as a necessary response to a one-sided recount. Of course, if she were correct that the county was ignoring countable Republican ballots, there would have been legal remedies available. Instead, Republican staffers used mob tactics.

“The media attacks were written, not coincidentally, after the mini-protest was shown to have worked,” she argues, as if only media bias could explain why journalists covered an event shortly after it occurred. “Within hours, the Democrat-led board admitted that they couldn’t comply with state law by the Sunday deadline and stopped their attempted vote harvesting scheme.”

Whatever the ethics of her position, Hemingway is correct to cite this episode as a milestone in the ideological evolution that has brought the party toward Trumpism. Its increasingly right-wing character has been mixed with a conviction that Democratic elections are inherently fraudulent, and that extra-legal processes can be justified as countermeasures. Whether wise or not, the Constitution grants Congress indisputable authority to hold impeachment proceedings. Yet Trump has had little trouble bringing along with him the great mass of voters and elected officials to the position that it is illegitimate as process, a literal coup.

“If this coup succeeds — whether through impeachment proceedings, or through an election that (if the last three years are any indication) the other side is clearly willing to steal by hook or by crook — the nation will cease to be a constitutional, democratic republic,” she warns. Notice that Hemingway is casually endorsing the widespread Republican assumption that Democrats must steal elections in order to win. Since the perfidy of the president’s enemies is taken for granted, and the evidentiary standards for charges against them nonexistent, any Trump defeat is a coup. Trump himself has been stoking that lie since before the 2016 election. If he is impeached, and even if he simply loses reelection, Trump will call it a coup, and a large number of his followers will treat it as such.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 01:05 pm
@blatham,
They are already calling it a coup, because it is. The left has been trying to impeach him since the day after the election. Russia collusion lies, 25th Amendment, people offering to wear wires and now this desperate attempt with the Ukraine. It's been a coup since Jan 20th 2017.
hightor
 
  2  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 01:25 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
The left has been trying to impeach him since the day after the election.

You have evidence of this? Since the Dems didn't win the House until the next election cycle I don't know how well that impeachment attempt would have worked.
Quote:
Russia collusion lies

Not lies — well documented by Mueller:
Quote:
A total of 272 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia-linked operatives have been identified, including at least 38 meetings. And we know that at least 33 high-ranking campaign officials and Trump advisers were aware of contacts with Russia-linked operatives during the campaign and transition, including Trump himself. None of these contacts were ever reported to the proper authorities. Instead, the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.

source
Quote:
25th Amendment, people offering to wear wires

You mean he chose leftists to work in the White House and on his staff?
Quote:
and now this desperate attempt with the Ukraine

The only desperation is on the part of Trump's defenders — like you, comrade.
Baldimo
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 01:47 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
You have evidence of this?

Evidence? Your funny. The MSM is exhibit A.

Quote:
Since the Dems didn't win the House until the next election cycle I don't know how well that impeachment attempt would have worked.

They didn't have the power to do anything, but they sure stood on national TV and lied to the American people about what was taking place and to make matters worse, the MSM never challenged them, only worked with them.

Quote:
Not lies — well documented by Mueller:

Where's the indictments in relation to working with the Russians? There won't be any, Mueller's report said there was no collusion and there would be no further indictments.

Quote:
You mean he chose leftists to work in the White House and on his staff?

No, holdovers from the Obama admin, our govt is still stacked with them. Why do you think so many high level intelligence people got fired or were forced to quit? They weren't working for the US govt, they were working with the DNC/Dems. The forth coming report from Durham will be telling the tale, the report has since become a criminal investigation, the whole treasonous lot are going to be exposed.

Quote:
The only desperation is on the part of Trump's defenders — like you, comrade.

Someone who actively supports socialist/communist causes has the nerve to call me "comrade"? You're a ******* joke, save the "comrade" for your communist buddies, us Patriots will be standing firm.


Builder
 
  0  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 01:59 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
The forth coming report from Durham will be telling the tale, the report has since become a criminal investigation, the whole treasonous lot are going to be exposed.


The depth of deception means the case could take years, but anyone with more than a few firing synapses could see the fear on the faces of some of the perps, (most notably Schiff), and if the DNC were serious about any kind of comeback, they certainly wouldn't be thinking Biden is their best choice.

We're just scratching the surface with that guy.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 02:02 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Quote:
The only desperation is on the part of Trump's defenders — like you, comrade.

Someone who actively supports socialist/communist causes has the nerve to call me "comrade"? You're a ******* joke, save the "comrade" for your communist buddies, us Patriots will be standing firm.
Neither directed at Baldimo nor hightor:

In German, comrade ("Kamerad") was the usual term for a fellow soldier, and thus the word is associated with right-wing rather than left-wing groups. Communists and socialists, especially party members of the Communist parties, Linkeand SPD use the word "Genosse" (fem. "Genossin") since more than 130 years.

The original meaning of "Kamerad" ('comrade') is that of a fellow, a companion or an associate.
Goethe: "and who wants to be my comrade,
clink glasses, sing with me."
(und wer will mein kamerad sein,
der stoße mit an, der stimme mit ein.
)
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RABEL222
 
  3  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 02:03 pm
@Baldimo,
He isent the only poster who thinks you might be a communist because your hero Trump thinks putin is the greatest. Not since Bush looked into putin soul through his eyes has a president been so full of shyt.
Builder
 
  0  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 02:24 pm
Not too clever, Creepy.

Quote:
“A former Joe Biden aide has filed paperwork to form a super PAC, called Unite the Country, that is set to boost the former vice president with millions of dollars in spending in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary,” Politico reported on Tuesday.

Records filed with the Department of Justice show that Rasky is also a registered foreign agent lobbying on behalf of the government of Azerbaijan. The records, which were filed pursuant to the Foreign Agent Registration Act, show that Rasky was hired by the Azerbaijani government on April 23, 2019. Federal documents signed by Rasky show that he reports directly to Elin Suleymanov, Azerbaijan’s ambassador to the United States.



source
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Baldimo
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 02:35 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
He isent the only poster who thinks you might be a communist because your hero Trump thinks putin is the greatest.

The leftists have the nerve to call other people communist names? The very people who want to do away with our Constitution want to call those who defend the Constitution communists? This is when you should realize you are living in a fantasy world.

Quote:
Not since Bush looked into putin soul through his eyes has a president been so full of shyt.

You think so? How about that Russian Reset? How about "I'll have more flexibility after the election"? Don't be daft.
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neptuneblue
 
  2  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 03:54 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
No, holdovers from the Obama admin, our govt is still stacked with them. Why do you think so many high level intelligence people got fired or were forced to quit? They weren't working for the US govt, they were working with the DNC/Dems. The forth coming report from Durham will be telling the tale, the report has since become a criminal investigation, the whole treasonous lot are going to be exposed.


Who, exactly, are you referring to?
BillW
 
  3  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 03:59 pm
@neptuneblue,
The windmill!
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blatham
 
  1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 04:15 pm
Republican gives tutorial in how to remain uninformed and thus, stupid.
Quote:
A House Republican who’s been parroting GOP complaints about the impeachment probe’s “closed-door” processes admitted on Tuesday that he hasn’t actually participated in any hearings–despite being allowed to attend them.

“No, I haven’t gone to those,” Rep. Ted Yoho (R-FL), a member of the House Foreign Affairs committee, told CNN anchor Poppy Harlow. “We’ve had discussions in our Foreign Affairs committee on other aspects of what President Trump is doing, so I’ve been involved in those, not in these. I see these as kind of a sideshow.”
TPM
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Tue 29 Oct, 2019 04:22 pm
@blatham,
This is exactly like those DNC politicians who had access to the full Mueller report and refused to go read it and instead demanded that the entire report be released so they could see what was in it. They shouldn't be holding secret impeachment hearings, that's what takes place in communist countries, not Constitutional Republics.
 

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