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old europe
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
In related news:

Quote:
Behind the Times’ surge to 2.5 million subscribers

It’s the 10,000-subscriber-a-day march.

As the full meaning of a Donald Trump presidency preoccupies American minds, The New York Times has seen a more-than-tenfold increase in daily subscription sign-ups, far surpassing any other news medium.

In fact, on a number of individual days since the election, more than 10,000 new subscribers have offered up their credit cards – which would be almost 20 times the rate of subscription sign-ups just a year ago.

[...]

That big bump means that in the stretch of less than four weeks the Times has added 10% to its paid (digital and/or print) subscriber list. (That’s a net number, after accounting for any cancellations; those surged some around the election as well, but have now subsided.) These numbers provoke three big points:

  • Subscribers will now drive the Times to a new apex of reader revenue, approaching 60% of all its income. The Times, like all its peers, used to look at “circulation” revenue as but as a means to lucrative ad revenue. Ad revenue – now near totally disrupted by digital marketing and Google and Facebook, in their duopolistic domination– used to drive 75% of the business. Now at the Times, it is down to 37%. Consequently, as print advertising continues its steep decline, the Times is less affected by that drop than other publishers still more dependent on advertising, as compared to reader, revenue.

  • New subscribers should add at least $30 million a year to the company’s coffers, as long as the Times can hold onto them. As almost major print-based news companies continue to buy out and lay off journalists to make budgets, the Times’ own 2017 budgeting just got unexpected help.

  • There are cofactors to the Trump Bump. While the mogul’s win has driven this unprecedented increase, there’s more under the hood of these numbers than meets the eye. One curious one: The Times has doubly toughened its stance towards Facebook – which we’ll look at more closely below.


[...]
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:14 pm
@ossobucotemp,
We're going to be seeing more Trump missteps, because he thinks he can run this country like a king. He doesn't understand our Constitution.
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Baldimo
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's a factual opinion piece. Refute it if you can; you can't.

Why would I try and defend against an opinion piece that is bias against Trump? I didn't vote for the guy, so why should I defend him.

Quote:
The NYT isn't going to publish an opinion piece that is false, because everybody knows Trump loves to sue. He can't.

Really? The Paper of Record is not going to publish false news? Do you not remember Jason Blair fiasco? Keep dreaming CI.

Quote:
Trump is going to take credit for the reduced subscriptions to the NYT, but all print media has been dropping because of the internet. It's not only New York.

Not sure what this has to do with anything I said.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:20 pm
@Baldimo,
You questioned the opinion piece; now you're backing off.
'kay.
georgeob1
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:23 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Ed Kilgore makes a very good point I hadn't thought of (and one I've not seen others make, though I might have missed instances of it) - why didn't Trump and team just hold up on the immigration bill for a week or two when all his principle people (like Sessions and Homeland Security chair) would be in place, thus lessening confusion and discord?

Quote:
... They do not give a damn about respectable opinion; they live to defy it. They will not be shaken by judicial thunder; they view judges as pawns in larger battles involving more powerful political and economic forces. They don’t fear GOP elected officials; they’ve watched Republicans turn tail, roll over, and beg for tax-cut treats and other policy concessions; just the day before Trump started this latest conflagration the entire congressional party assembled in Philadelphia to beg its new master for direction.

...The “Muslim ban” is just one of many signs that the new administration is courting confrontation and encouraging fear and anger among its enemies.

Kilgore isn't arguing that startling incompetence is not a feature here, just that there is another important aspect to what's going on that matches particular goals of this group. If we miss this, I think we make a big error.


Interesting. There are several ways of showing that a political movement doesn't give a damn about respectable opinion or judicial thunder , or the positions of elected officials of either party. One is to stage (and finance) protest demonstrations across the country around the inaugrial process and to similarly object to concrete actions by the incoming administration to act on promises that were key elements of its successful campaign, constantly miscgaracterizing them as part of an authoritarian conspiracy ( forgetful of their own similar behavior in office.

I do agree Trump may have been wiser to delay the application of his new restrictions for a few days after their issue to that people already enroute would not be affected. He appears to have been too interested in his personal and dramatic action to make promised changes, and too little of the uses to which his enemies would put them.

I find it fascinating that the very strident voices being raised against Trump fail to recognize the degree to which their own exaggerated indignation and behavior in reaction to his actions duplicates the same ego centrism and authoritarianism of which they so lavishly accuse him.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I question all opinion pieces you post as fact, and I'll continue to point out your opinion pieces you use as fact. It isn't fact, it's opinion. If it were fact, it would be published as a news article and not opinion. You find any news stories reporting Trump as a, >>trump, fill in the blanks.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:46 pm
@Baldimo,
It's fact until someone can refute it. Do you understand how logic works?
ehBeth
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:47 pm
@old europe,
I thought that was fabulous when it started - that it continued is even better.
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McGentrix
 
  -1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:52 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Quote:
Your object is not dialogue or better understanding: it is merely propaganda.


Bingo.


Be careful. Us Americans don't understand what "propaganda" really is.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 03:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's fact until someone can refute it. Do you understand how logic works?

I understand logic, I just don't think you are using it correctly.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:00 pm
@Baldimo,
Explain why?
Do you understand how science works?
oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:01 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
oralloy wrote:
blatham wrote:
Any chance we can lay off the personal insults?

Says the guy who engages in atrocious personal attacks against anyone who posts a viewpoint that requires him to think.
Hypocrisy anyone?

To be fair, I've not seen Blatham launch any personal attacks. His imploring that users should be ignoring is not an attack.

Try making posts that require Blatham to think for himself instead of simply pointing to smart liberals and saying "I think what they think".

You'll definitely notice Blatham's horrendous personal attacks when they are being launched directly at you.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:02 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
So she betrayed the US by reminding our ADD president that PERHAPS, these points wont pass Constitutional muster because
1They may have been improperly conveyed
2They may be counter to the rules of law

If you are referring to the wacky extremist who just got fired, she didn't just convey a viewpoint to Mr. Trump. She was actively preventing the government from defending the executive order when it was challenged in court.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:03 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
Looks like Trump aint gunna get the chance to upgrade our nukes before he has to launch some.

Pity, that, but it's still cool. Them old-ass nukes still pack plenty of punch.

Soon some Iranian will be telling a tourist: "That's where Tehran used to be."

Is there news about Mr. Trump's plans to upgrade our nukes?
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:05 pm
@oralloy,
You need to study the US Constitution about the freedom of religion.
Trump failed that test.
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/17057
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
You need to study the US Constitution about the freedom of religion.

No I don't.


cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump failed that test.

No he didn't.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:15 pm
@blatham,
No, my point is that if you or any other rabid critic chooses to make a lot more the Yates affair, than is clearly warranted, you will be demonstrating that the facts of any given situation are entirely immaterial to your purpose which is to keep up a constant deluge of propaganda.

I confess I don't understand why you bother or what you hope to accomplish, but suspect it has something to do with your desire to be seen as some sort of leader of the A2K Trump Resistance.

Quote:
I'll take up the remainder of your argument.


How generous.

It won't be necessary because I've no interest in engaging with a minor propagandist who fancies himself important.

Baldimo
 
  0  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Explain why an opinion piece is the same as a news article? Sorry, I'm not going to play your game. You know very well that an opinion piece is just that, an opinion, while it can contain fact's, it doesn't have to and that is why these types of pieces are called opinions and are not published as actual news, but someone's opinion on an event or a policy or in this case a person.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:28 pm
@Baldimo,
Poor defense. I want evidence and facts, not your opinion.
ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Tue 31 Jan, 2017 04:28 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-dissent-idUSKBN15F2KP

9oo or so US State Department officials sent dissent memo or memos and Spicer threatens their jobs..
 

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