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izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 06:59 am
@Lash,
My brother had just been born, so there was a new baby in the house. He was given Neil as his second name, and mother never grew tired of saying he was the first baby on the moon.

I can remember wondering why everyone thought it was such a big deal, I knew this wasn't the first rocket up in space and just assumed they'd all gone to the moon.
Region Philbis
 
  1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 08:42 am
@snood,
Quote:
I remember sitting in the floor of our living room
yup, me too (age 4).

we closed the wooden shutters to cut down the glare, and watched the thing on our tiny black and white TV...
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 09:29 am
I always wanted to go into space. Pulled every book out of our school library on the solar system and the space program. Watched every launch that was televised. I was an obsessive sci-fi reader as well.

I still want very much to go into space but now that's mainly because I want to pee on Texas.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 12:08 pm
Is the problem Trump or is it American conservatism as it stands this century? The following quotes are all from 2004
Quote:
* “He dispenses with people who confront him with inconvenient facts.” —Bruce Bartlett, former Reagan and Bush-the-elder adviser.

* “In meetings, I’d ask if there were any facts to support our case. And for that, I was accused of disloyalty!” —Christie Whitman, head of the EPA under Bush.

* “If you operate in a certain way — by saying this is how I want to justify what I’ve already decided to do, and I don’t care how you pull it off — you guarantee that you’ll get faulty, one-sided information.” —Paul O’Neill, Treasure Secretary under Bush.

* “Open dialogue, based on facts, is not seen as something of inherent value. It may, in fact, create doubt, which undercuts faith. It could result in a loss of confidence in the decision-maker and, just as important, by the decision-maker.” —Suskind’s words.

* “A cluster of particularly vivid qualities was shaping George W. Bush’s White House through the summer of 2001: a disdain for contemplation or deliberation, an embrace of decisiveness, a retreat from empiricism, a sometimes bullying impatience with doubters and even friendly questioners.” —Suskind.

* “You’re outnumbered 2 to 1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don’t read The New York Times or Washington Post or The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? They like the way [Bush] walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it’s good for us. Because you know what those folks don’t like? They don’t like you!” — Mark McKinnon, media adviser to Bush, explaining the political logic to Suskind.


Further down the piece...
Quote:
The goal of totalitarian propaganda is to sketch out a consistent system that is simple to grasp, one that both constructs and simultaneously provides an explanation for grievances against various out-groups. It is openly intended to distort reality, partly as an expression of the leader’s power. Its open distortion of reality is both its greatest strength and greatest weakness.

Read It All
BillRM
 
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Sun 21 Jul, 2019 12:12 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzythepush the British Interplanetary Society and Arthur Charles Clarke was both early drivers of having a space program who anyone with British blood can be proud of.
hightor
 
  0  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 12:27 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
“You’re outnumbered 2 to 1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don’t read The New York Times or Washington Post or The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? They like the way [Bush] walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it’s good for us. Because you know what those folks don’t like? They don’t like you!”


I love it when they just blurt it out, no subtlety whatsoever.
blatham
 
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Sun 21 Jul, 2019 12:46 pm
@BillRM,
And I suppose we ought to give a nod to the Nazis as well.
blatham
 
  -1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 12:48 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
I love it when they just blurt it out, no subtlety whatsoever.

Indeed. And yet that they can is what is so alarming.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 21 Jul, 2019 01:06 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
And I suppose we ought to give a nod to the Nazis as well.
But it started in Germany before the Nazi-period: the Lippisch Ente, for instance, was was the world’s first rocket-powered full-size aircraft (1928); the Berlin rocket launching site was created around the same time, by the Berlin Space Club (club president was Johannes Winkler).
BillRM
 
  -1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 01:25 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

And I suppose we ought to give a nod to the Nazis as well.


LOL I did love how only after the moon landings was long over with we decided to take away citizenship and deport Arthur Rudolph for his Nazis past.

Of course von Braun even those he once held the rank of a SS major did not have that problem.

Life is indeed strange at times.
Olivier5
 
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Sun 21 Jul, 2019 02:00 pm
If Only Twitter Had Existed in The Past

Oh what fine dialogue the internet could have enabled in another time.

https://thenib.imgix.net/usq/44fedb02-cef0-4fc5-b82d-8bb8ac890c2c/if-only-twitter-had-existed-in-the-past-2-2d9.png

https://thenib.imgix.net/usq/06b866a8-fb1b-42a5-a385-21bd5afbc1ec/if-only-twitter-had-existed-in-the-past-3-a63.png

https://thenib.imgix.net/usq/64c6d32e-ddff-408a-9ebc-18f644b4bf19/if-only-twitter-had-existed-in-the-past-4-9ab.png

https://thenib.com/if-only-twitter-had-existed-in-the-past?t=recent
blatham
 
  -1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 02:11 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I love you but I couldn't resist the retort to Brit pride. We Canadians don't have any.
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blatham
 
  0  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 02:16 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Life is indeed strange at times.

Yes it is.
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blatham
 
  -1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 02:17 pm
@Olivier5,
Those are very, very good.
Sturgis
 
  -1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 03:08 pm
@Region Philbis,
Who was in charge of holding the foil-wrapped antenna?
Olivier5
 
  0  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 04:16 pm
@blatham,
I particularly love the handles, eg: @plantationjobcreator.
blatham
 
  0  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 05:33 pm
@Olivier5,
Very witty.
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Region Philbis
 
  -1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 06:14 pm
@Sturgis,

no one -- the foil clung to the antenna just fine without assistance...
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Real Music
 
  1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 07:27 pm
Trump Supporters LOVE President’s Hate-Filled Tirades.

While most of America is still angry about Trump’s disgusting comments from this past Sunday, his
hardcore supporters are loving every minute of it. They seem to enjoy watching the President make his
xenophobic comments, and some even admitted to CBS News that this is why they voted for him! This is
what we’re up against in 2020, as Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains.

Published July 20, 2019
BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 21 Jul, 2019 09:02 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:

Trump Supporters LOVE President’s Hate-Filled Tirades.

While most of America is still angry about Trump’s disgusting comments from this past Sunday, his
hardcore supporters are loving every minute of it. They seem to enjoy watching the President make his
xenophobic comments, and some even admitted to CBS News that this is why they voted for him! This is
what we’re up against in 2020, as Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains.

Published July 20, 2019
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W10l3OOwOg[/youtube]


I love Trump supporters denying that either him or themselves are racists when Trump had done everything but wear a Klan robe on TV.

Strange that most of them can not be honest even to themselves.
 

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