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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Which parts of that didn't you get to lead you to asking the question you did?

This one:

Brandon9000 wrote:

He wondered if the judge, because of his Mexican heritage, was mad at him because if his (Trump's) position on illegal immigration from Mexico.

The only reason offered for why the judge might be "mad at him" over his position on illegal immigration was "because of his Mexican heritage."

So the assumption here is that you can draw a conclusion about the judge's opinion merely based on ethnicity.

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@McGentrix,

In my experience Yurp will NEVER stop trying to put absurd conclusions, drawn from his own fallacious "logic," into your mouth.

Here he at least gives the appearance of "asking" if that's what is meant, but it's really an (unwarranted) assertion. He won't quit asserting it, either.

As I said before, he specializes in building strawmen.

Aint that right, Yurp?

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@old europe,

You just don't get it.

If the judge had been Muslim, the only reason why he condemned Trump would OF COURSE be his religion.

If the judge had been of Irish origin, the only reason why he condemned Trump would OF COURSE be his being Irish.

If the judge had been a woman, the only reason why she condemned Trump would OF COURSE be her gender.

If the judge had been from Randomcity, Colorado, the only reason why he condemned Trump would OF COURSE be his being from a small town in Colorado.

And if the judge had been handicaped, the only reason why she condemned Trump would OF COURSE be her handicap.

And so on and so forth. Do you get the picture?

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@Olivier5,

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@layman,

All you bigots are ignorant; he was born in the US of Mexican heritage.

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@cicerone imposter,

Lyin again about havin my ass on ignore, eh, Al?

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@layman,

There's no law against peeking in to see if you continue your BS. Sue me.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

European Council President Donald Tusk puts the USA in a row with China, Russia, and Islamists

Quote:
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In a letter to national leaders before a summit that he will chair in Malta on Friday to prepare the Union's future after Britain leaves, the conservative former Polish prime minister said Trump's more protectionist trade policy offered the EU a chance and it should do more now to set up free trade deals.

Saying the EU faces its biggest challenges in its 60-year history, Tusk said an "assertive China", "Russia's aggressive policy" toward its neighbors, "radical Islam" fuelling anarchy in the Middle East and Africa were key external threats. These, he said, "as well as worrying declarations by the new American administration, all make our future highly unpredictable".

Walter I believe that both you and the article you posted exaggerated Tusk's remarks as they relate to the United States. I omitted all the interpretation and opinion from the article, leaving only the specific points Tusk actually made. You can see for yourself. The U.S. is not a "threat" to Europe or the EU - though there many threats to the EU within Europe.

I believe the European Council does indeed have a number of things to worry about, including all the items Tusk listed, each with strong potential to affect the union's future. There are others as well
=> (1) The coming election in France and the condinued ascent of the Front Natioal; and other restive union governments in Hungary and prthaps Italy
=> (2) The relatively sluggish economies of the southern Tier of EU Nations have added to the stresses within the EU which iself continues to add to the weight of its governance which increasingly involves detailed requirements for nearly all aspects of social and economic life. The inflexibility of the system appears to increasingly stress the ability of the Southern Tier Nations to cope and adds further stresses within the EUROZONE It's not easy being tied to the currency of the regions largest exporter of goods.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Walter I believe that both you and the article you posted exaggerated Tusk's remarks as they relate to the United States. I omitted all the interpretation and opinion from the article, leaving only the specific points Tusk actually made. You can see for yourself. The U.S. is not a "threat" to Europe or the EU - though there many threats to the EU within Europe.

Tusk verbatim wrote:

The first threat, an external one, is related to the new geopolitical situation in the world and around Europe. An increasingly, let us call it, assertive China, especially on the seas, Russia's aggressive policy towards Ukraine and its neighbours, wars, terror and anarchy in the Middle East and in Africa, with radical Islam playing a major role, as well as worrying declarations by the new American administration all make our future highly unpredictable.

Source
Might be that his remarks have been exaggerated -

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@blatham,

Quote:

Exactly like Jesus. Recall how on the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus said, "OK, everybody shut up and listen. From here on out, it's tear everything down. Consider that everyone except us here are out to kill us all and they're going to do it unless we take flamethrowers into every town and village and solve, finally, our problems" That has inspired humans for 2000 years.

That's not the methodology that Jesus recommended but you must admit that he wanted and predicted that the 'establishment' had to go. When he said "I come not to bring peace, but a sword" he was speaking of the ideas that would drastically separate people.

I hope you don't think I was comparing Bannon the man or his methods to those of J.C.

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Well, this is heartwarming:

Quote:

The White House announced Tuesday that President Trump will continue a 2014 Obama-era order protecting LGBTQ employees who work for federal contractors from workplace discrimination.

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@blatham,

It appears the WP article you pasted was fairly replete with Fake News.

There is no question the president has the power to place temporary restrictions on travel to or residence in this country for people or groups, or from specified countries or regions and do so by execttive order. Indeed Obama did something very similar in an order affecting some of the same countries and that action got nary a comment from the press, Senator Schumer or the tribe of liberal commentators you frequent. The issuence of the Executive order was lawful, its' content was clearly permissible by existing immigration law, and within the domain of executive authority. The clear duty of the Acting AG ( herself a member of the Executive branch of government) was to either defend the action in court, or resign. She got her moment in the sun and she is now gone. No vengence required: she truly earned her dismissal and amply demonstrated her incompetence on the legal matter at hand.

The gratuitous coments about the supposed lack of involvement and indignation of the new Homeland security director (Gen Kelley) and the new SECDEF, Gen Mattis were today revealed in a press conference by Gen Kelly to be baselkess falsehoods: both were aware and involved.

As to the WP allegations of "flared tensions" within the West Wing due to the supposed different management approaches of their favored villians on the Trump team - they deserve no more credence than was earned by the the patently false reports in the article.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Do you think that when they are installing the hand dryers in the bathrooms at Microsoft that Gates is involved in picking the model and style?

Picking nits is Walter's specialty.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Quote:

The Yates dismissal provides Trump opponents with a perfect opportunity to demonstrate that they are motivated in their criticism by something other than obsessive hatred or unhinged paranoia.

Not a promising first graph. Your implication here is that prior criticisms of Trump were driven only by obsessive hatred or unhinged paranoia (actually this one too but some PR cover is provided by unique circumstance of it). That may be emotionally or rhetorically agreeable for you but it an entirely irrational framing.
- the majority of citizens did not want Trump in the WH
- the concerted efforts from Republicans/conservatives to keep him out of the WH has no historical precedent
- Trump's approval/disapproval ratings in taking office are without precedent
- the protests against Trump that followed the day after his inauguration in 40 or more cities across the US comprised what is apparently the largest protest in American history.

If you rewrite that graph rationally, I'll take up the remainder of your argument.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Do you think that when they are installing the hand dryers in the bathrooms at Microsoft that Gates is involved in picking the model and style?

Picking nits is Walter's specialty.

As I earlier wrote:

my name is neither Christopher Bucktin (the author of that article) nor am I in any other way related to any journalist, editor, or owner of the Daily Mirror.

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@Leadfoot,

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That's not the methodology that Jesus recommended but you must admit that he wanted and predicted that the 'establishment' had to go. When he said "I come not to bring peace, but a sword" he was speaking of the ideas that would drastically separate people.

First, that quote is subject to contest in translation.

As to "establishment had to go", that's a very questionable overlay of modern notions on a situation far different. Famously, the "money-changers" were a target but that hardly constitutes an establishment in the period. He didn't recommend that all rabbis be locked out of synagogues or that synagogues ought to be laid waste to. As to ideas that would separate people, any new idea about the nature of God or any new idea about recommended social behavior/religious behavior and morality will inevitably separate people.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

He didn't recommend that all rabbis be locked out of synagogues or that synagogues ought to be laid waste to.

Me, I aint no Jesus. For the record, I recommend that all muslim clerics be locked out of mosques and that mosques ought to be laid to waste. For a start, anyway.

If only Trump agreed with me...

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@georgeob1,

Quote:

It appears the WP article you pasted was fairly replete with Fake News.

"Fake News". As I predicted about two months ago here when this term first emerged (referring to both sites and "news" items purposefully faked to look like real news sites or seem like legitimate reporting) this term would be utilized by voices on the right as a propaganda device to describe legitimate news entities and stories.

So, I stopped reading there. Sorry, just not going to waste my time or the time of anyone else.

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I think we perhaps have a new definition of the term "Holocaust" emerging presently.

Holocaust: an unfortunate period of suffering in Europe during the 30s and 40s where the populations under German control were subject to very extreme vetting.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

If you rewrite that graph rationally, I'll take up the remainder of your argument.
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So, I stopped reading there. Sorry, just not going to waste my time or the time of anyone else.

What a cheese-eater. This kind of display of imperious and grandiose pretense is often indicative of a severe inferiority complex. I guess I would feel that way too, if I were you.

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