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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 07:24 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
Trump insults London mayor on UK state visit


Someone should. Might as well be Trump. Kahn has turned London into a bigger shithole than it was.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 07:54 am
https://c4.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/O-Elephant-600-LI.jpg
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/branco-cartoon-say-his-name/
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 08:31 am
@coldjoint,
Tru7mp stands in flagrant violation of the First Amendment. Telling the emperor he has no clothes iwhen he has no clthes is not bias.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 08:34 am
@oralloy,
Nonsense.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 09:12 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Kahn has turned London into a bigger shithole than it was.
Are you referring to the Mayor of London, Khan?
If you are, when have you been there before 2016 that you can compare it?
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 09:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I think he's praising Khan, after all one thing we know about the trumpettes is they love the taste of Agent Orange's shithole.

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izzythepush
 
  -1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 11:31 am
Quote:
A US lawmaker has had a milkshake thrown at him in an alleged attack that appears to have spread from the UK.

Republican congressman Matt Gaetz was hit by the flying drink cup as he was leaving a restaurant in Pensacola, Florida, on Saturday.

Amanda Kondrat'yev, 35, who ran against Mr Gaetz as a Democrat in 2016, was charged with battery assault.

Several British politicians and candidates have had milkshakes thrown at them in the last year.

Pro-Brexit leader Nigel Farage has repeatedly been targeted by creamy projectiles in recent months, leading police to request that some businesses suspend sales of the drinks when political rallies are being held nearby.

In Saturday's incident, which may be the first "milkshaking" of a political figure on American soil, Mr Gaetz was leaving a town hall-style event, part of his three-day "Won't Back Down" tour, at the Brew Ha Ha restaurant.

Video of the alleged attack was filmed and posted on social media. In the video, Mr Gaetz appears to point the assailant out to security after some of the beverage's contents landed on his sleeve.

He later tweeted: "Clearly it takes more than a drink to slow down our great team."

Bail for Ms Kondrat'yev, 35, was set at $1,000 (£800). She took to Facebook to fundraise for her legal expenses following her release.

"Not sure how much court stuff costs but I was charged with Battery today for allegedly milkshaking Congressman Matt Gaetz," she wrote in a fundraiser on Facebook that had pulled in more than $1,000 by Monday.

Referencing "Eggboy", an Australian teen who raised thousands of dollars after smashing an egg on a far-right senator, she wrote that "excess proceeds" would be donated to a worthy cause or "something to offset the damage done by having [expletive] Republicans in charge here".

This is not the first time that Mr Gaetz, a staunch supporter of President Donald Trump, has crossed paths with Ms Kondrat'yev.

In 2016, she ran against him to represent Florida's 1st District, but withdrew her candidacy before the election.

During the race, Mr Gaetz challenged her to a public debate after she sued the city of Pensacola to try to remove a Christian cross from a public park.

According to Florida media, Ms Kondrat'yev accepted the invitation, but the debate never took place.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48503820

I feel quite proud.

Now I know some people get way more upset about milkshakes being thrown than schools shot up, but it's important to point out why milkshakes are being used.

After some politicians received minor scratches from egg shell it was mooted that milkshake be used in place of egg because it can't cause any injury.

That's the difference between the left and right. The left throws milkshakes and the right whines and moans about the left throwing milkshakes. Then they go out shooting random strangers for not being American enough.
livinglava
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 12:06 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I feel quite proud.

Now I know some people get way more upset about milkshakes being thrown than schools shot up, but it's important to point out why milkshakes are being used.

After some politicians received minor scratches from egg shell it was mooted that milkshake be used in place of egg because it can't cause any injury.

That's the difference between the left and right. The left throws milkshakes and the right whines and moans about the left throwing milkshakes. Then they go out shooting random strangers for not being American enough.

First, treat others the way you would be treated. So if you are willing to take a milkshake for the Green New Deal or whatever variation of it will be enacted in a few years after the political winds change, then go ahead and throw milkshakes; but otherwise come up with something that you would welcome happening to you as a result of someone disagreeing with your POV.

What bothers me about throwing milkshakes, street demonstrations, and basically all other forms of political communication that are watered down to acts of shouting, grunting, and violence are that we have the capacity to do better. We have the internet, which makes it entirely possible for people to communicate their full political views in a way that explains their reasons; not just punishes someone for thinking differently than they do.

Finally, no one is getting shot for their identity, national or otherwise, I hope. If you're talking about law enforcement, I can't criticize or defend any shooting without knowing the full details of the incident, and I don't trust the media to be able to present full-enough stories to accurately evaluate what happened. There are courts of law to try people for shooting, and even those often fail to reveal the full story and/or achieve justice for various reasons.

As such, societal violence is basically a war without justice. The way to stop wars is by having functional civil democratic discourse where people experience hope for the future in reasonable discussing their POV about how to achieve a good and just future. Throwing milkshakes isn't going to help democracy achieve its peace function.
RABEL222
 
  0  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 12:46 pm
@livinglava,
What bothers me about people shooting guns at other people is that it causes people to get dead. I never heard of someone succumbing to a thrown milkshake. You are running a close race with Ollie and the other conservatives for b s.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 12:47 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Tru7mp stands in flagrant violation of the First Amendment.

How? By speaking? Find your thinking cap.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 12:48 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
If you are, when have you been there before 2016 that you can compare it?

That is what journalists are for.
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 12:56 pm
@coldjoint,
No. By using his bully pulpit to get people to trample on the first amendment guarantee of a free prress solely in his own interest.

livinglava
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 01:02 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

What bothers me about people shooting guns at other people is that it causes people to get dead. I never heard of someone succumbing to a thrown milkshake. You are running a close race with Ollie and the other conservatives for b s.

That's a stupid thing to say. If you compare throwing milkshakes with shooting, you may as well compare throwing punches.

Would you feel better about getting punched if you were told that it was in lieu of shooting you? I didn't think so.
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 01:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
No. By using his bully pulpit to get people to trample on the first amendment guarantee of a free prress solely in his own interest.

That is what a president does. Suck it up. He has stopped no one from reporting anything.
izzythepush
 
  -1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 01:10 pm
@RABEL222,
For these toytown fascists there's never enough things to be afraid of. Milkshakes are a welcome addition, it's another reason to cling to their guns trembling with fear and filling their pants.

Give it a week and they'll be scared of cheese too, not to mention big scary tofu.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 01:15 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
cling to their guns

They are clinging to their rights, something you should not have to cling to in this country. When the assholes that are trying to take them away cry like babies, and undermine freedom. A despicable lot of emasculated weenies, they might as well be British. Laughing Laughing Laughing
Baldimo
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 01:43 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
For these toytown fascists there's never enough things to be afraid of.

Considering the person who threw the milkshake was the person he beat in the election, it smacks of cry baby tactics. "You beat me in an election, I'm going to throw things at you now."
As for things to be afraid of, Antifa here in the US has already shown their use of violence and riots against those who disagree with them, that's pretty anyone right of Marx. If we think milkshakes are ok, it will only escalate until someone really does get hurt, like with a brick or worse, the left is pushing the violence here in the US.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 01:50 pm
@coldjoint,
Twelve more people in virginia beach murdered by someone exercising his civil liberties.. Most of the country finds that unacceptable.
livinglava
 
  1  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 03:08 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

For these toytown fascists there's never enough things to be afraid of. Milkshakes are a welcome addition, it's another reason to cling to their guns trembling with fear and filling their pants.

Give it a week and they'll be scared of cheese too, not to mention big scary tofu.

Think about fascism for a second. Fascism involves controlling people with fear and intimidation. What's a more effective way to instill fear and intimidation than to start small and gradually increase the level of violence? It's like the Gestapo starting with a light tapping on the door and gradually increasing the level until they pound the door down. The message is, "we're beyond discussing politics and now we're going to start ramping up violence until you cower in your fear and submit to our demands."

Is that really the strategy to attaining power you want the left to take? Wouldn't you rather see them convince people with reason, if they are capable of reason, that is?
izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 3 Jun, 2019 04:13 pm
Good old Jez.

Protests are planned in several UK cities during the three-day visit, including in London, Manchester, Belfast, and Birmingham.

Quote:
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn - who is boycotting the state dinner - is due to attend and speak at the London demonstration, a party spokesman has confirmed.

Earlier, Mr Corbyn tweeted: "Tomorrow's protest against Donald Trump's state visit is an opportunity to stand in solidarity with those he's attacked in America, around the world and in our own country - including, just this morning, Sadiq Khan."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48491722
 

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