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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 08:33 pm
@blatham,
Do you have a small carton of crayons?

Depending on your mood, you could use a lot of

yellow. Or, blue. Or, red.

Or pour tea over it.

Is that too uncreative?
layman
 
  -1  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 08:34 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

If the left/liberal/progressive chunk of the electorate wants to remain relevant, and possibly even start winning at the ballot box, it's got to find its way out of the current PC straitjacket.


That was a good post, Hi. Nice to see that you have some sense which transcends the usual partisan hackery seen around this here joint.
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Blickers
 
  8  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 08:36 pm
@oralloy,
The problem is that Bannon,who is a political operative, is there at ALL the meetings while people from the Joint Chiefs of Staff are there at only SOME of the meetings. In Trump's White House, political operative Bannon is being better briefed in dealings with Russia than the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Couple that with the fact that Bannon, as head of Breitbart.com, espoused a pro-Russian, anti-Semitic opinion policy, where he pushed pro-Russian and anti-Semitic ideas and headlines, and today's news is quite outrageous.

Of course, Trump doesn't really need our intelligence agencies, he's got his buddy Putin to give him all the intelligence he needs to run America Putin's way. And heck, who isn't looking forward to that?
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 08:43 pm
@hightor,
A couple of months ago I was hiking the the mountains in New Mexico. Suddenly I saw a coiled up rattlesnake about 8 feet away.

Immediately and instinctively, I blew that sorry sumbitch to pieces with my sawed-off. Afterwards, I kinda thought--"that poor thing."

Ya know, it's possible it wouldn't have bitten me. But do you think for one second that I was going to wait around and see?

I don't think so! Homey don't play dat.

His bad luck. I would do exactly the same thing again. My "compassion" for venonmous snakes who, after all, only do what they are "born to do" and have no kinda "evil" intentions, only goes so far. And that aint very far when my best interests conflict with their "nature."

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Debra Law
 
  8  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 09:09 pm
Bernie Sanders wrote:
Very dangerous and unprecedented. It appears that Trump's foreign and military policy, issues that involve war and peace and the lives of American men and women in the military, will be determined by politics and not the needs of the American people. We do not need an extreme right-wing political operative on the National Security Council. We need smart and experienced people who will do everything possible to protect our country and create a world of peace and justice. Steve Bannon must be removed from the National Security Council.


Bernie Sanders
https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf
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ehBeth
 
  5  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 09:33 pm
@layman,


fake news site
always has been
always will be
ehBeth
 
  6  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 09:34 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
l
conservativedailypost.com


another fake news site

got quite the penchant* for them eh


* for full effect, say it with an accent
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 10:03 pm
@ehBeth,
The more fake, the more better, eh!?

****, that post was 50 pages back. As I said back then;

Quote:
Could all be "fake news" as far as I know. I haven't seen this in a msn outlet, but I wouldn't put it past them to suppress it, either.

Either way, a good story, I figure.
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oralloy
 
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Sun 29 Jan, 2017 10:18 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
The problem is that Bannon,who is a political operative, is there at ALL the meetings while people from the Joint Chiefs of Staff are there at only SOME of the meetings. In Trump's White House, political operative Bannon is being better briefed in dealings with Russia than the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Maybe principles meetings under Trump will be more focused on internal US reforms and less concerned with international conflict.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 10:41 pm
@ehBeth,
Factcheck on Conservative Daily Post.
Quote:
Notes:  The Conservative Daily Post is a news and opinion website that is hard to determine if it is satire or real.  If it is real then it is off the charts right wing propaganda and conspiracy. Others have classified this as fake news.
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Blickers
 
  8  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:14 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Maybe principles meetings under Trump will be more focused on internal US reforms and less concerned with international conflict.


Not the point of the National Security Agency. This is what the National Security Agency is all about:
Quote:
The White House National Security Council (NSC) is the principal forum used by the President of the United States for consideration of national security and foreign policy matters with senior national security advisors and Cabinet officials and is part of the Executive Office of the President of the United States. Since its inception under Harry S. Truman, the function of the Council has been to advise and assist the president on national security and foreign policies.

Source

Bannon is a Putin propagandist. These are Steve Bannon's own words:
Quote:
When Vladimir Putin, when you really look at some of the underpinnings of some of his beliefs today, a lot of those come from what I call Eurasianism; he’s got an adviser who harkens back to Julius Evola and different writers of the early 20th century who are really the supporters of what’s called the traditionalist movement, which really eventually metastasized into Italian fascism. A lot of people that are traditionalists are attracted to that.

One of the reasons is that they believe that at least Putin is standing up for traditional institutions, and he’s trying to do it in a form of nationalism — and I think that people, particularly in certain countries, want to see the sovereignty for their country, they want to see nationalism for their country. They don’t believe in this kind of pan-European Union or they don’t believe in the centralized government in the United States. They’d rather see more of a states-based entity that the founders originally set up where freedoms were controlled at the local level.....

....[W]e the Judeo-Christian West really have to look at what he’s [Putin] talking about as far as traditionalism goes — particularly the sense of where it supports the underpinnings of nationalism — and I happen to think that the individual sovereignty of a country is a good thing and a strong thing. I think strong countries and strong nationalist movements in countries make strong neighbors, and that is really the building blocks that built Western Europe and the United States, and I think it’s what can see us forward.

Having Bannon on the National Security Agency is more important than having a member of the Joint Chiefs? Bannon is Putin's boy, and you're putting him in the Inner Sanctum. Heaven help us all.
layman
 
  -3  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:28 pm
@Blickers,
Quote:
Having Bannon on the National Security Agency is more important than having a member of the Joint Chiefs? Bannon is Putin's boy, and you're putting him in the Inner Sanctum. Heaven help us all


Bannon gives an articulate socio-political analysis of ideologies and historical events, whether he is right or wrong.

In the process he mentions Putin.

The only conclusion you can draw? Bannon is Putin's boy!!

That in no way follows from anything Bannon said, but it is consistent with the current cheese-eater conspiracy theory that Trump is a russian puppet---Putin's stooge.

I'm sure your idle statement of an unsupported and irrelevant opinion passes for "insightful analysis" with the commie crew, but, really, Blicky, you should keep it there, eh?
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old europe
 
  6  
Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:56 pm
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:

old europe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

old europe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
Trump had a specific and frequently discussed policy regarding Mexico, so it is perfectly possible that someone with a family connection with Mexico would have a different position than someone without a connection to Mexico.


What family connection with Mexico, Brandon? Are you talking about his ethnicity?

Obviously. If Trump had had a widely circulated policy about the state of Georgia, people from Georgia might have some feeling about him that people from other states wouldn't. This is obvious.


You're saying it's obvious that people of a certain ethnicity will hold certain opinions.

That right?

Not even close. Are you even reading my posts? My assertion is that if a public figure has a policy regarding some category of people, then it is possible that someone in that category might have a reaction.


Yes, I'm reading your posts.

Curiel is an American judge. Born in America. American citizen.

If your assertion is that Trump has a policy regarding a "category of people", then you might want point out what category of people you're talking about.

Does Trump have a policy regarding American citizens?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Mon 30 Jan, 2017 01:16 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if schisms form in the Republicans' unified government


They already have started.

Depending on one's point of view the fact that the infighting has already begun is

a) A sign of the principled, independent thinking of conservatives
b) A sign of how egotistical so many are and of why their control of the reins of power is usually short lived.

It's probably a combination of both with "b" weighing more heavily than "a."

Ever since Reagan, they've been losing, or winning in spite of themselves, and to be honest the Establishment GOP didn't have a lot to do with Trump winning and much of their surge since 2010 was fueled by the original anti-Establishment candidates from the Tea Party.

Progressives like blatham subscribe to 'b" of course but are happy to grant "a" when a Republican turns on their kind and agrees with the opposition. This is something we almost never see with the Democrats, who, no matter how much they might hate each other, tend to maintain a remarkable degree of solidarity and stick together on message, no matter how idiotic the message may be. They clearly have a very effective communications network that passes around the talking points almost immediately upon the development of a new story. I swear, if I heard one more Democrat (politician and MSM member alike) include the phrase "chaos and confusion" in their rants yesterday I was going to hurl something at my TV. It can be effective though, because everyone up and down the progressive chain of command has been harping on the exact same points (chaos and confusion) and the same exact phony claims (A ban on Muslims!)

Meanwhile there are the predictable old goats like McCain and Graham who have taken Trumps insults very personally and are very pissed that he doesn't give them the deference they believe they deserve; who are criticizing the EO. Plus a few young "rogues" who may be disagreeing on principle but who could just as easily have purple constituencies, leaning to blue and are figure the smart thing to do is bet against Trump. That hasn't worked well for many people so far but some bettors feel like their number has just got to come in at some point.

The Dems have their own turncoats like the Senator from WV whose name escapes me now, but, ironically, the Tea Party candidates did the progressives a favor by knocking of most of the Blue Dogs.

There will always be Republicans like McCain who desperately want to the MSM to respect and to like them.

So yes, especially with Trump at the helm there will be schisms and mutinies.
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layman
 
  -3  
Mon 30 Jan, 2017 01:55 am
This self-described "life-long liberal," a muslim, supports "extreme vetting." She has an interesting perspective.

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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Mon 30 Jan, 2017 03:30 am
"... and relevant contemporary events" you say??

Snowflakes in the news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deht9UvkTxM




gungasnake
 
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Mon 30 Jan, 2017 03:45 am
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layman
 
  -4  
Mon 30 Jan, 2017 03:47 am
@gungasnake,
Heh. They say you shouldn't try bringing a knife to a gunfight. Even more idiotic to bring a pea-shooter up against a howitzer.

Only an idiot who thinks he's the center of the universe would be stupid enough to "stand his ground" when a speeding car is bearing down on his sorry ass. They're apparently thinking "He HAS to stop! I'm too important for him not to!"

Nice try, cheese-eater.
gungasnake
 
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Mon 30 Jan, 2017 03:47 am
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