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Sat 27 Apr, 2019 03:47 pm
Ex-White House correspondent Sam Donaldson blasts Sarah Sanders, says she has ‘lifetime achievement Oscar for lying’


Published April 27, 2019
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Former ABC News White House correspondent Sam Donaldson slammed press secretary Sarah Sanders, saying she’s had “a lifetime achievement Oscar for lying.”

In an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Friday, the two discussed transparency in the Trump administration. The last time Sanders held a press briefing was on March 11.

Donaldson, who retired from ABC News in 2009, said he believed “true transparency” didn’t exist “because I think he [President Trump] doesn’t want it to exist.”

The former ABC News anchor said he had a good relationship with White House press secretaries since the John F. Kennedy administration.

“Except for Ron Ziegler who lied for Richard Nixon,” Donaldson pointed out. “I’ve never seen anything like this with Sarah Sanders and there’s a difference. And Ziegler lied about one thing, the question whether the president of the United States was covering up the Watergate burglary and all the questions that had to (do) with that.”

However, the former anchor said Ziegler did answer questions about domestic and foreign policy truthfully.

“On the other hand Sarah Sanders simply lies about everything taking a cue from her boss,” he said. "Not just one thing. She’s had a lifetime achievement Oscar for lying.”

The former anchor admitted he did not know Sanders but felt sorry for her.

“I don’t know her. I feel a little sorry for her because it’s the boss who does it,” he continued. “She takes the cue from him. Leadership begins at the top and so does all the bad things that happen in the administration.”

Sanders came under scrutiny recently after special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia report revealed that she admitted to investigators that she had made an unfounded claim that “countless” FBI agents had reached out to express support for Trump’s decision to fire FBI Director James Comey in May 2017.

In a recent interview with “Good Morning America’s” George Stephanopoulos, the anchor pressed Sanders on the report.

“That’s not a slip of the tongue, Sarah, that’s a deliberate false statement,” the host said.

“Actually, if you look at what I said, I said the slip of the tongue was using the word 'countless.' There were a number of FBI, both former and current, that agreed with the president’s decision, and they continued to speak out and say that and send notice to the White House of that agreement with the president’s decision. James Comey was a disgraced leaker and used authorization to spy on the Trump campaign despite no evidence of collusion,” the press secretary replied.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-white-house-correspondent-sam-donaldson-blasts-sarah-sanders-says-she-has-lifetime-achievement-oscar-for-lying/ar-BBWlJvu?ocid=UE13DHP
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 12:07 am
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Pope Francis has donated $500,000 (£387,000) to help migrants stranded in Mexico as they try to reach the US border, the Vatican said.

The money comes from the Catholic Church's Peter's Pence fund, from church collections around the world.

A statement said vital aid for the migrants was falling as global media coverage of the crisis decreased.

The Pope has previously criticised US President Donald Trump's aim of building a wall to keep migrants out.

The US has put pressure on Mexico's government to stem the so-called caravans of people from Central America heading north.

"In 2018, six migrant caravans entered Mexico, for a total of 75,000 people. The arrival of other groups was announced," the Peter's Pence office said.

"All these people were stranded, unable to enter the United States, without a home or livelihood. The Catholic Church hosts thousands of them in the hotels within dioceses or religious congregations, providing basic necessities, from housing to clothing."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-48081483
Builder
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 02:33 am
@georgeob1,
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You are trying hard to miss the point.


That's one of Hi's chief talents. Glad you noticed it, too.

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The NY AG has filed suit against the Trump foundation in the absence of any other filed charges.


There does appear to be an air of desperation in the "nevertrump" camp, since the long-awaited Mueller "report" presented as a flaccid schlong, if that.

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They certainly have equivalent, but more substantial, information on the Clinton foundation,


All we really need to think about, is who in the Clinton camp will fold first, and turn "queen's counsel" on the rest of the crew.

My money's on shifty Schiff, seeing as how he has so much to lose.
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hightor
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 02:56 am
@georgeob1,
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You are trying hard to miss the point.

But you're the one who missed it.
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They certainly have equivalent, but more substantial, information on the Clinton foundation,

"They certainly"...no, unless you have access to the information they do you can't claim to know the quality and quantity of any of the supposed "evidence". Your conjecture is based on the partisan coverage you've had drummed into your head by relying on FoxNews and other right-wing media sources. Thirty years of accusations against this old lady and not one indictment? You think the Southern District Court has been covering for her all this time?
Builder
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 03:07 am
@hightor,
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...you can't claim to know the quality and quantity of any of the supposed "evidence".


And yet you make this "leap of faith" on a regular basis, Hi. Pot, kettle; black.

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Your conjecture is based on the partisan coverage you've had drummed into your head by relying on FoxNews and other right-wing media sources.


Wait a minute; when did fox news become right-wing media?

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Thirty years of accusations against this old lady and not one indictment?


Where there's smoke, there's fire. We're only starting to scratch the surface of how the alphabet noodle orgs were involved in the coverups, and "nevertrump" actions.

Shifty Schiff will be the first to fold, is my call. He can't keep a straight face under questioning.

Told so many pork pies, he needs an Xcell file to keep track of them.





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hightor
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 06:23 am
Trump Called Sean Hannity to Rant On-Air for 45 Minutes About the 'Coup' Against Him. Everything Is Fine.

The president is now openly demanding criminal investigations into his political opponents, whom he claims tried to overthrow his government.

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Would you let the President of the United States babysit your kids? You really ought to ask yourself. And if you doubt he can handle that kind of responsibility, what are we even doing here?

It's worth asking, again, because the world's most powerful man hosted the children of the White House Press Corps Thursday for Take Our Daughters and Our Sons to Work Day. "That's the politically correct term, and we always have to be politically correct, right?" he said. "So that's good." Then he told the kids he likes them better than their parents—because their parents are journalists, and he has launched a hate movement against journalists. Then he talked about his limo and how dogs are the best drug-detection equipment the world has ever seen. This mirrored a speech on opioid addiction he gave Wednesday, in which he also raved about dogs and the dress Melania wore to his inauguration, which was a segue into a rant about the border. Also this week, he tweeted more than 50 times in one day.

But it was all a stage rehearsal for his interview Thursday evening with Sean Hannity, the Shadow Chief of Staff. Yes, this is our world: people like Hannity and Lou Dobbs, the Fashy Benjamin Button, are among the president's closest advisers. Donald Trump, American president, called into Hannity's show mid-segment last night—surely causing panic in the control room—and the two strolled together through the baroque architecture of conspiratorial nonsense they've built together over the last few years. At this point, it's come to resemble an entire alternate reality.



Hannity and Trump are pushing conspiracy theories about the Obama-era Justice Department.

"Really it's a coup," Trump says, before admitting that his (unfounded) claim about the Obama DOJ wiretapping him was based on "a little bit of a hunch." pic.twitter.com/WFCi3SjIRN
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 26, 2019



"Really, it's a coup, it's spying, it's everything you can imagine," Trump mused about these invented activites of the Obama Justice Department, saying the quiet parts out loud: call it whatever makes it seem worst. The truth of the matter is functionally irrelevant. It doesn't factor in. What's good for me? Say that. Trump unwittingly expounded on his worldview—the truth is whatever you can get enough people to believe—when he moved into a discussion of his entirely fabricated charge that the Obama administration "wiretapped" him.


"Early on, I used the word "wiretap," and I put it in quotes, meaning surveillance, spying—you can sort of say whatever. But that was a long time ago...two years ago, when I said that on a little bit of a hunch, and a little bit of wisdom, it blew up. Because maybe they thought I was wise to 'em and they were caught."


Here the president is openly admitting he accused his predecessor of illegally surveilling his campaign with zero evidence. He says he had "a hunch," presumably thinking this imparts some Hardy Boys charm to the idea the American president manufactures serious—and possibly criminal—accusations against his political opponents out of thin air. Then, when people grow concerned that he is quite obviously making all this up, he interprets their concern as evidence his entirely fabricated claim is correct. No wonder he once again promoted the baseless conspiracy theory that British intelligence helped in this effort earlier this week—an accusation that caused an international incident the last time he trotted it out. He doesn't care whether it's true. He doesn't even consider it.

"It was pretty insignificant, I thought, when I said it," the President of the United States says, referring to when he suggested his predecessor carried out an extralegal surveillance campaign against him, presumably in an attempt to sway a democratic election. It's almost like he doesn't see any boundaries in what you can do or say to win—and assumes everyone else is operating on the same calculus. It's against this backdrop that we're supposed to just accept the president's talk of a "coup" against him, which is always nice to hear from The Leader of an authoritarian movement.

Next, the president claimed Hillary Clinton sent "hundreds of thousands of text messages or emails through the Weiner server, or computer," suggesting "many" were classified. This is largely inaccurate: a small number of emails Clinton sent or received contained classified information, and Trump seems to be confusing Clinton's private email server with Anthony Weiner's laptop, which contained some emails sent to his wife, Huma Abedin, a longtime Clinton aide. But the intent is clear: Trump wants to swing the criminal investigation of his conduct back on Hillary Clinton. Perhaps that's what he means when he talks about whether the attorney general—a position now occupied by his pet toad, William Barr—"will do what's right." After all, we learned this week that the president repeatedly demanded that Jeff Sessions prosecute Hillary Clinton for...something. Like all authoritarian leaders, the president believes the justice system is just a tool at his disposal, with which he can punish his adversaries.

With Hannity, Trump told a story to illustrate the injustice of Clinton's non-prosecution.


"Nothing happens to her, and yet they put a young sailor on for doing something innocent—showing his mother and his friend what the desks look like, the desk in a 40-year-old submarine. I think Russia and China would've had that picture, many years ago".


Uh, what? This appears to refer to a recurring Fox meme, where the story of a sailor who went to prison for taking photos on a nuclear submarine becomes about Hillary Clinton.

But then we were moving on. The president, who refused to sit for an interview with Robert Mueller, and whose lawyers submitted written responses on "Russia-related" questions that contained 37 instances in which the president "could not recall," and who refused to submit even written answers to questions on obstruction, complained about Hillary Clinton's FBI interview over The Emails. Then things took a darker turn.




Trump accuses Hillary Clinton of "destroying the lives of people that were on our campaign. She's destroyed their lives."

"This was a coup. This was an attempted overthrow of the United States government," the president adds, referring to the Mueller probe. pic.twitter.com/Uvfcr1mQeo
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 26, 2019




Here the President of the United States is once again accusing his political opponents of orchestrating a coup against him. Not only did Clinton "destroy the lives" of people on his campaign—presumably by making a bunch of them lie to the FBI, or in the case of Paul Manafort, convincing him to become a gun-for-hire for dictators and despots the world over—but the Mueller probe was "an attempted overthrow of the United States government." This is the same probe that ended in The Mueller Report, which Trump called a COMPLETE EXONERATION! until it actually came out.

This is a classic scenario, after all: when a shadowy cabal wants to overthrow a government, they often stage a meticulous two-year investigation and then decline to press charges against the official they're desperate to remove from office, choosing instead to refer the matter to Congress, which his allies partly control, to decide on.

Trump spent much of the rest of the 45-minute interview—because, again, he has nothing better to do—repeating the word "coup." This will surely end well. He crowed about an upcoming Justice Department Inspector General report, telegraphing that he will use it as a political weapon. He returned to the Spying-Slash-Wiretap-Slash-Surveillance meme, praising his pet toad:


'The attorney general said it better than anybody the other day when he was asked. "Yes, I think they were spying on the Trump campaign." You can't say it any better than that."


Notice he just says the toad said it well. He sold it. It's not relevant whether it's true. "I think so, too," the president added, driving home that this is all based on his "hunch"—also known as a thought that popped into his head.

The concerns about the president's mental fitness and his assault on the institutions of our republic are now thoroughly intertwined. Donald Trump has always been a primal operator, but he has now reverted to full-on fight-or-flight. He is lashing out wildly because he can feel the perilous position that he is in. It's not the first time for someone who has spent his entire adult life exploring the shadowy corners of the law—and, based on the fact that pretty much every organization he's ever run is now under investigation, perhaps has found himself on the wrong side of it. He will fight like hell to avoid accountability for his actions, and his track record indicates he could easily be successful. The question is whether the republic will fight back, which will require the moral courage of people—in particular the Republican Senate—who have so far been sorely lacking.

esquire
blatham
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 06:46 am
@hightor,
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This is a classic scenario, after all: when a shadowy cabal wants to overthrow a government, they often stage a meticulous two-year investigation and then decline to press charges against the official they're desperate to remove from office, choosing instead to refer the matter to Congress, which his allies partly control, to decide on.
Yeah, that's the playbook right there.

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revelette1
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 09:59 am
@izzythepush,
That is good news, and refreshing to hear on this sad Sunday of reading mostly sad and depressing news.
izzythepush
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 10:21 am
@revelette1,
I quite like this pope, he's not perfect but he's a lot better than his immediate predecessors.
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hightor
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 06:30 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5Kl_43UcAAqFEk.jpg

georgeob1
 
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Sun 28 Apr, 2019 08:12 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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They certainly have equivalent, but more substantial, information on the Clinton foundation,

hightor wrote:

"They certainly"...no, unless you have access to the information they do you can't claim to know the quality and quantity of any of the supposed "evidence". Your conjecture is based on the partisan coverage you've had drummed into your head by relying on FoxNews and other right-wing media sources. Thirty years of accusations against this old lady and not one indictment? You think the Southern District Court has been covering for her all this time?


You have zero information on my reading, radio or TV habits, and likely very little appreciation of whether I think for myself or merely absorb the propaganda of others. I would find your presumption on the latter matter a bit insulting, if it was less evident that it was you were merely spouting the preconceptions of others - in short doing exactly the same stupidity of which you were, falsely, accusing me.

Hillary kept her stable of political aides, including Sydney Blumenthal, Huma Abedin and several others on the Clinton Foundation payroll. That's illegal for a Tax Free Foundation. The number of incidences involving paid speeches by husband Bill and/or large contributions to the Foundation immediately following favorable treatment by Hillary as Sec. State is very large indeed. Contributions to the foundation have largely dried up since Hillary left office. It certainly appears there is as much to investigate there, as with the Trump Foundation, and that the Federal Attorney for the Southern District of New York is pursuing a political and not a legal agenda.
izzythepush
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 01:18 am
Not political but it may be of interest to Winnie the Pooh fans.

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A fire has been burning overnight near woods featured in AA Milne's Winnie the Pooh stories.

The blaze in Ashdown Forest was reported at 21:30 BST on Sunday, East Sussex Fire and Rescue Service said.

Gorse and undergrowth was ablaze across an area of about 14 acres (six hectares) in the Kingstanding area.

At its height six crews fire were on the scene. This has now been scaled back to four fire engines and crews, a fire service spokesman said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-48090078

We need some rain.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGUvCv9nWYb-G0vh9wEW5K5LmHF_8JAiwjAPqsKq0SRg9jj17F
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hightor
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 02:37 am
@georgeob1,
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I would find your presumption on the latter matter a bit insulting, if it was less evident that it was you were merely spouting the preconceptions of others - in short doing exactly the same stupidity of which you were, falsely, accusing me.


My apologies. I shouldn't have speculated on where you sourced your information. Although I never said your reliance on particular sources of evidence was "stupid" — I suggested that they might be biased.

As I said, these sorts of accusations have been leveled at the Clinton woman for thirty years. For christ's sake the woman has been accused of involvement in multiple murders. And people are incensed because she supposedly broke the rules around organizing a tax free foundation?

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The number of incidences involving paid speeches by husband Bill and/or large contributions to the Foundation immediately following favorable treatment by Hillary as Sec. State is very large indeed.


Post hoc ergo propter hoc remains a distinct possibility.

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Contributions to the foundation have largely dried up since Hillary left office.


But she closed the foundation, didn't she?
Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 04:42 am
@hightor,
For some reason, the NYT withdrew this cartoon, seen as antisemitic...

It's antisemitic to represent Trump as a Jew, I guess.
Lash
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 04:43 am
@Olivier5,
The Jew as a dog. I definitely noticed.
hightor
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 04:53 am
@Olivier5,
Yes, there was some controversy about it — I posted it without comment so that people could draw their own conclusions.

The point may be that Mr. Trump thinks of Mr. Netanyahu as his "poodle" but in reality the dachsund-faced prime minister is actually Trump's seeing eye dog, leading the blind president (who is conveniently disguising himself as an observant Jew) to accomplish his own ends.

I don't see the cartoon as antisemitic but yeah, it's definitely anti-Israel and anti-Trump. I hope that's still okay...
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Brand X
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 06:02 am
@mtracey

'Carl Bernstein wrote a seminal 25,000 word cover story for Rolling Stone in 1977 on the CIA's long history of using American journalists to push its agenda. Decades later, Bernstein has been a prime promulgator of CIA talking points on Trump/Russia http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 06:16 am
@Lash,
Ridiculous...
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revelette1
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 12:58 pm
Coverage of Trump’s latest rally shows how major media outlets normalize his worst excesses

I wish they would stop covering his rallies. It's just free press for his reelection bid.. Better to ignore him as much possible. It would drive him nuts.
MontereyJack
 
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Mon 29 Apr, 2019 01:52 pm
@revelette1,
Maybe. They should treat it like a sports event with a team of analysts commenting on every statement he makes for its truth value or lacmk of it it in real time. Three lies and he goes to the penalty box and they put the muzzle on.
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