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farmerman
 
  5  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 12:21 am
@FreedomEyeLove,
you keep believing that. Dems dont go around preaching to minorities like Massahs. Dems occupy a HUGE tent within which many , often disparate beliefs are held sacred.

GOP cant say that. You guys are the BORG who believe they "Know" what everybody else think.
FACT #1 IS , ya dont know **** pal. Thats why its **** that mostly dribbles out your mouths.
Wheres this vaunted "health Care Plan" that Plump seems to think that the GOP has crafted.??


FACT #2 (The GOP hasnt got a dream for any kind of health plan and you know it.) Why havent they rolled out anything to supplant Obamacare if all you old men GOPers are against it? Its really stupid business to take a critical piece of equipment out of service without having anything to replace it even before you pull the plug. Youll be out of business really quick.
blatham
 
  4  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 05:10 am
Great piece at the Washington Post

Quote:
Why do white evangelicals still staunchly support Donald Trump?
The answers lies in the Reagan-era religious right.

...Many white evangelical churchgoers now see the fight to overturn Roe v. Wade as equivalent to their call to share the Gospel with unbelievers. They subscribe to the message that the only way to live out evangelical faith in public is to vote for the candidates who will most effectively execute the 40-year-old Christian right playbook.

The movement’s message is so strong that even when pastors oppose the politicization of their religion, the message is not likely to persuade congregants. Indeed, many white evangelical pastors do not preach politics from their pulpit. Some speak boldly against the idolatrous propensity of their congregations to seek political saviors.

But these pastors cannot control the messaging their flocks imbibe after they leave church on Sunday. And a massive Christian right messaging machine targets these Americans with precision. Ministries and nonprofit organizations, driven by conservative political agendas, bombard the mailboxes, inboxes and social media feeds of ordinary evangelicals. Many of these organizations appeal to long-standing evangelical fears about cultural decline or provide selective historical evidence that the United States was founded as, and continues to be, a “Christian nation,” even though this never was true.

Evangelicals filter what they hear during weekly sermons through Fox News and conservative talk radio, producing an approach to political engagement that looks more like the Republican Party than the Kingdom of God.


Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:12 am
@blatham,
Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic lawmakers seeking President Donald Trump’s tax returns will never get access to the documents, which are meant to be confidential, White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said on Sunday.

Asked on “Fox News Sunday” if congressional Democrats will succeed in obtaining Trump’s returns, Mulvaney said: “Never. Nor should they.”
Reuters
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Good. Nosy leftists need to learn to mind their own business.
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revelette1
 
  4  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:25 am
Quote:
Allegations this week that the US Justice chief downplayed serious evidence of illegal obstruction by Trump in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's final report are fueling demands that he release the entire, unexpurgated document to Congress.

News reports, citing unnamed members of Mueller's staff, said Barr ignored the summaries Mueller's team prepared for public release, and instead issued his own on March 24, in which he peremptorily cleared the president of any wrongdoing.

And Barr now says he will not release key evidence given to Mueller's grand jury, a special panel used by prosecutors in politically-sensitive cases. Democrats suspect the evidence could be damning to the president -- setting up a legal and political showdown.


AFP
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:29 am
@revelette1,
As if it was obstruction for the official in charge of an investigation to decide not to pursue it....

Like I said above, nosy leftists need to learn to mind their own business.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 09:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The GOP is ready to violate all norms to protect this guy. If the people in his administration and the folks at the top of the GOP discovered he'd ordered a murder of someone, it's highly probable they'd cover it up. I don't know about the legal issues here but I'm pretty certain they'll find ways to either stop public release of his tax data or just run out the clock on it past Nov 2020.
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blatham
 
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Sun 7 Apr, 2019 09:44 am
@revelette1,
If Barr plays this one as a cover-up, then the ethical next step would be for someone(s) in the FBI or Justice Department to lead a responsibly edited version of the report. That person will be in jeopardy, of course, but the next Dem president can pull a Trump and pardon him/her.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:00 am
@blatham,

Quote:
Great piece at the Washington Post

Great piece of ****. Known liars, like yourself.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:13 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
Democrats suspect the evidence could be damning to the president

Not damning enough for him to be charged. In our legal system that is where it should end. Again, Democrats ignore the rule of law denying the president of his guaranteed civil rights in this matter.

The hate they have for Trump cannot override the law, they are saying it should. Think about that and what it means.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:31 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Wheres this vaunted "health Care Plan" that Plump seems to think that the GOP has crafted.??

Where is the legislation to secure our borders? That is the urgent need we have. Where are the Democrats? Do they have any plan other than doing nothing? They are enabling illegals to pour in and disappear into our country. Some of them killing and raping our citizens. Democrats do not give one **** about the citizens or our laws. It shows more everyday.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:44 am
@blatham,
Quote:
but the next Dem president can pull a Trump and pardon him/her.

They will from old age before that happens. The Democratic party might not even exist after 2020.
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glitterbag
 
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Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:47 am
@blatham,
After Nixon resigned, there was a great deal of bitterness expressed....even 10 and 20 years later Nixon supporters would claim that he was shafted by his enemies. The only reason you don’t hear a lot of moaning and gowning nowadays is because his fanbase has died out.

I think Trumps supporters have latched onto him with a religious fervor much like the Spanish Inquisition. They seem to see this as a battle between good and evil. We seem to be intent to trade on hate, resentment and fear so we will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:51 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
I think Trumps supporters have latched onto him with a religious fervor much like the Spanish Inquisition.

Did you experience the Inquisition first hand? Probably.Most likely the one that tightened the screws.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:53 am
The object is to tear this country down. Here is some information concerning that effort that seems quite credible.

georgeob1
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 12:47 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

I think Trumps supporters have latched onto him with a religious fervor much like the Spanish Inquisition. They seem to see this as a battle between good and evil. We seem to be intent to trade on hate, resentment and fear so we will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot.

I believe those qualities are at least equally visible on the other side of the political aisle. Certainly the continuing zeal for various "investigations of Trump - after the legally established process has been completed - strongly suggests that. Moreover the very divisive group identities and values being aggressively pushed by emerging Democrats are certainly indicative of "hate, resentment and fear", among them - factors which are still contributing to increasing divisions in the country. The still growing crowd of Democrat declared Presidential candidates suggests that this will continue and even get worse.

Both sides rationalize their actions by the alleged misdeeds of the other. Nothing new there.
Trump is a loudmouthed vulgarian, but the policy actions he is taking are , in my view, necessary and beneficial.
Democrat voices have been shrill and highly partisan, and they, as a political group, have not yet come to terms with the fact that Trump won the last election, preferring instead a very destructive policy of non-engagement and opposition at every turn in the Congress. So far they have offered nothing concrete in terms of policy and legislation, but a lot of vague, abstract and unachievable "goals" as expressed in the "Green New Deal" and the rhetoric of both current Political leaders and the still growing tribe of declared contenders for the presidential primaries strongly suggests that will get worse.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 12:55 pm
@georgeob1,
Any idea what the Republican's health plan will look like? So far it appears vague, abstract and nonexistent. Maryland announced the first case of measles in the State.
Setanta
 
  2  
Sun 7 Apr, 2019 01:00 pm
@georgeob1,
God you crack me up. You throw a sop out there to even-handed analysis, and then immediately begin extolling the alleged virtues of the Fat Boy in the White House. His idiotic border wall will not stop drugs, most of which come in, smuggled through legal crossing points. His trade war with Canada, Europe and China is hurting manufatuers and consumers. Canadian auto parts manufacturers export about 80% of their production to the United States. Now Americans buying autos manufactured in the U.S., using Canadian auto parts, get to pay more for their autos, thanks to Plump. The Chinese have specifically targeted American agricultural production--our biggest and most important export sector throughout our entire history. If the fat boy ever actually succeeds in stopping illegals from coming across the border, to do the stoop labor Americans 'won't do, Mexico benefits by shipping us fresh produce which we could only produce at great expense. Really, George, do you live in a gated community with private security? You should visit the real world now and again.
wmwcjr
 
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Sun 7 Apr, 2019 01:06 pm
Gay bashing by Muslim migrants on the rise in Europe


I wonder how the enlightened, morally superior political left in west European countries, Canada, and the United States will respond to this latest development. Will they speak out against this outrage, or will they continue to give Muslim immigrants preferential treatment (even to the point of coddling the ones who are criminals) and kick their gay friends under the bus for the sake of political expediency? (After all, it's all about retaining power, isn't it?) A few years ago I was sympathetic to the left (at least to a degree), but no more. What a bunch of hypocrites. They have no shame. It's really sad and quite disgusting.
InfraBlue
 
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Sun 7 Apr, 2019 01:26 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The object is to tear this country down.


That's according to you.

According to the Justice Democrats the object is to bring this country up. The Justice Democrats are up front about their objectives.

Before Alexandria Was Known As AOC, There Was A Movement That Recruited Her To Run


Justice Democrats
 

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