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izzythepush
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 10:56 am
@blatham,
McGentrix says all the right words when it comes to things like equal opportunities and affordable healthcare and then he cosies up with the worst bigots on A2K.

He can't have it both ways.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 11:13 am
@izzythepush,
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he cosies up with the worst bigots on A2K.

I don't see him trying to be your buddy.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 11:21 am
@blatham,
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And if you somehow were puzzled as to why Trump's base gets stupider and stupider day by day....

Every time you post you make Trump supporters look smarter and much more honest than you could ever hope to be. Do you hate half of the Canadian citizens too?
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blatham
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 11:51 am
Draining The Swamp: item 821
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When Donald Trump announced two months ago that David Bernhardt was his choice to succeed Ryan Zinke as the new Interior secretary, it was immediately controversial for a variety of reasons. Bernhardt is, after all, a former oil lobbyist.

In fact, while serving as Zinke's deputy, Bernhardt had so many conflicts of interest, the Washington Post reported last year that he had to "carry a small card listing them all," because he "worked for years as a lobbyist representing many of the very businesses he now regulates."

To date, none of this has bothered Republicans on either end of Pennsylvania Avenue. A series of new controversies, however, should theoretically put Bernhardt in a new light. The New York Times reported this morning, for example:

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A previously unreleased invoice indicates that David Bernhardt, President Trump's choice to lead the Interior Department, continued to lobby for a major client several months after he filed official papers saying that he had ended his lobbying activities.

The bill for Mr. Bernhardt's services, dated March 2017 and labeled "Federal Lobbying," shows, along with other documents, Mr. Bernhardt working closely with the Westlands Water District as late as April 2017, the month Mr. Trump nominated him to his current job, deputy interior secretary. In November 2016, Mr. Bernhardt had filed legal notice with the federal government formally ending his status as lobbyist.


The Washington Post reported yesterday, meanwhile, that the Interior Department's Office of Inspector General is "reviewing allegations that [Bernhardt] may have violated his ethics pledge by weighing in on issues affecting a former client."
Benen

Trump's campaign rallying cry that he would "drain the swamp" came into clear perspective very early and has only become more clear 2+ years later. So what did he mean and what did his audience understand him to mean?

To the first question, I don't think he "meant" anything. I think he simply was working from a standard playbook on the right, particularly the "libertarian" playbook, which holds that government is bad, unnecessary, an impediment to initiative (and profit taking, though that doesn't get mentioned much). Grover Norquist's maxim "I want to make government so small we can drown it in the bathtub" is the precise distillation of the ideology.

But in right wing rhetoric and mythology, promulgated over many decades, this notion of a "swamp" at the center of government has been targeted to indicate "pointy-headed" types. That is, scientists*, anthropologists, schools/educators, psychologists, economists, artists, historians, etc. with an acute concentration on universities. Where do you find commies and atheists and moral relativists? Universities. This right wing rhetoric almost never targets corporate lobbyists and if it does, the sincerity of such complaints gets dubious pretty quickly. Trump made promises about lessening the contacts between lobbyists and his administration but exactly the opposite has been the case... and does anyone hear more than a handful of voices on the right complaining about this 180 degree shift?

So Trump was just spreading **** because he and his strategists knew it would work on his base and perhaps on others who had previously contacted this entire myth story the right has been pushing for so long.

What about his audience? That is the very troubling and depressing part of this whole story. Soaked in a daily bath of sentences and images and claims designed to make them stupider (if someone is lying to you, the goal is to make you stupider) they have fulfilled their half of the bargain.


*Probably the most well known example, the tobacco industry set to forwarding a propaganda campaign to encourage citizen doubt regarding scientific findings on caner even while their own scientists had long since known of this connection. They purposefully set out to make citizens stupider - for money. There are many more examples of such a strategy as in global warming produced by the burning of fossil fuels.
blatham
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 11:56 am
@izzythepush,
McG and I are old friends, of a sort. We throw molotov cocktails at each other as often as not but now and again we actually talk. I have a similar relationship with george and finn. I'm happy to talk and equally happy to set them ablaze. It's the warrior code.

That last sentence is total bullshit. I'm quite certain I'd set myself on a path to becoming a ballerina before I'd do anything soldierish.
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 11:57 am
@blatham,
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*Probably the most well known example, the tobacco industry set to forwarding a propaganda campaign to encourage citizen doubt regarding scientific findings on caner even while their own scientists had long since known of this connection. They purposefully set out to make citizens stupider - for money. There are many more examples of such a strategy as in global warming produced by the burning of fossil fuels.

Isn't that what you are doing? Your presence here on this thread alone is a lie compounded with each of your posts,
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 12:03 pm
https://c1.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Sour-Milk-600-LI.jpg
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/04/branco-cartoon-dry-run/
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 01:14 pm
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Man Charged With Rape And Murder In County Park In NJ Was Deported Twice Before: ICE

Vote Democratic and this will continue to happen.
https://www.weaselzippers.us/416519-man-charged-with-murder-in-county-park-in-nj-was-deported-twice-before-ice/
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 01:24 pm
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“Unplanned” Was Made For You, The Mother In Crisis

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I’m talking about the latest movie that Hollywood tried to abort. “Unplanned” is the story of Abby Johnson, former director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Texas, who became a traitor to women’s reproductive rights because her own soul couldn’t bear the weight of guilt.

The best way to describe the movie is to compare it to a visit to the National Holocaust Museum, or to the 9/11 Memorial, or to anyplace where thousands of innocents died. You could have heard a butterfly’s wings flap when this movie was playing, because it silences audiences in a quilted fugue of reality.

There was no suspension of disbelief that the scenes depicting an actual abortion were in fact what happens during an actual abortion. It was as real as the beach scenes in “Saving Private Ryan,” and left me just as slack-jawed. Abby Johnson’s story happened. It was real.

The acting was decent. The script wasn’t wooden or forced. The message wasn’t hammered into your head. It didn’t need to be, because it was real.

This movie has and will have an impact. It wont make abortion go away but it will change many minds. Remember the "Heartbeat bill" passed in Georgia is being blocked by the courts, a violation of of that baby's (humans have heartbeats, not sure progressives do) civil rights.
https://theresurgent.com/2019/04/03/unplanned-was-made-for-you-the-mother-in-crisis/
https://theresurgent.com/2019/04/03/unplanned-was-made-for-you-the-mother-in-crisis/
blatham
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 03:58 pm
Trump, a month ago, said,
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"I am telling your right now, we will close the damn border"

The next day, he said,
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“Mexico is going to have to do something; otherwise, I’m closing the border.”

Then at the beginning of this month he said,
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"If we don't make a deal with Congress, the border's going to be closed, 100 percent."

On Mar 31, Kellyanne Conway said on Fox,
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“It certainly isn’t a bluff. You can take the president seriously."

On the same day, Mick Mulvaney said,
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"It would take something dramatic" [for Trump to back down on his threat.]


And then today, Trump says he'll give them a year. But boy there'll be big trouble then if they don't.

What a freaking doofus. There was never a chance he would do this because his "real base" (as W once described a crowd of corporate biggies he was speaking to) would massacre the idiot. Which is just what happened today.



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McGentrix
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:00 pm
@blatham,
That's one guy's history. If I were to present examples of racism in Canada, would you say that Canadian culture is reflected by that behavior? Seriously though, " racist, xenophobic, misogynist, and authoritarian values of the GOP"? You can't possibly have any kind of intelligence if you believe that ****. I mean I can see MontereyJack believing it and maybe one or two others, but I think that is just bluster from you.
livinglava
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:06 pm
@coldjoint,
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I’m talking about the latest movie that Hollywood tried to abort. “Unplanned” is the story of Abby Johnson, former director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Texas, who became a traitor to women’s reproductive rights because her own soul couldn’t bear the weight of guilt.

I just googled this movie, since I hadn't yet heard of it. Apparently it got an R-rating because the abortion scene was accurate.

I think it is controversial because of parents who want to make sure their teenage kids aren't emotionally blocked from getting abortions when they get pregnant by accident.

If young people were watching this movie to get a clearer idea of what abortion is all about, it would cause problems for the culture of liberal sexuality, prostitution, and abortion as a safeguard against losing your prostitution revenue when your daughter refuses to abort and go on selling her body for money/popularity.
revelette1
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:08 pm
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Some on Mueller’s Team See Their Findings as More Damaging for Trump Than Barr Revealed

WASHINGTON — Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated, according to government officials and others familiar with their simmering frustrations.


nyt
coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:12 pm
@revelette1,
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nyt

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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blatham
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:14 pm
@McGentrix,
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That's one guy's history.
No, it really is not. Such a claim is very far from the truth, I can note some books for you to read on this aspect of Republican history, if you're interested.

Re Canada, we have a very well documented history of racism here regarding the First Nations peoples. It marks the past behavior of all our political parties and our history books and even aspects of the modern nation. Likewise, treating women as second class citizens. And there are right wing lunatics here too who hate Muslims, gays, atheists, and non-whites. But they are far less influential here than in the US, presently at least.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:17 pm
@livinglava,
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I think it is controversial because of parents who want to make sure their teenage kids aren't emotionally blocked from getting abortions when they get pregnant by accident.

Judgement begins after birth not before it.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:19 pm
@blatham,
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But they are far less influential here than in the US, presently at least.

Don't you mean they are silenced by your governments hold on media? Just can't stop lying.
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Setanta
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:21 pm
@McGentrix,
I want to say fair play to you, because racism, especially toward aboriginals (called First Nations in Canada) is endemic, and seems not be heading toward a foreseeable resolution. However, I cannot disagree that the Republican Party, by and large, is racist, xenophobic, misogynistic and authoritarian. Not all Republicans, certainly, but then, not all Canadians have knee-jerk racist reactions to First Nations.

At least let us agree that neither situation is amenable to simplistic and "broad-bush" characterizations.
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 04:58 pm

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EU adopts resolution on reparations for colonialism, no criminal racial profiling and more welfare for Africans


These people are idiots. Countries that allow this bullshit certainly cannot represent their citizens or their culture. It reminds of people that cut themselves. Self hatred bleeding all over the place.
https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/03/eu-adopts-resolution-on-reparations-for-colonialism-no-criminal-racial-profiling-and-more-welfare-for-africans/
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livinglava
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2019 05:12 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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I think it is controversial because of parents who want to make sure their teenage kids aren't emotionally blocked from getting abortions when they get pregnant by accident.

Judgement begins after birth not before it.

What does that have to do with my point you quoted?

I said that many parents of teenagers expect them to get abortions if they get pregnant, so they want to suppress a movie that could cause their teenage children to resist abortion.

I think that is the reason the movie has been given an R-rating; not because of some general pro-choice attitude that is against pro-life propaganda for abstract philosophical reasons.
 

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