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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 18 Mar, 2019 03:17 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
That is fantasy. That's not where school shootings or workplace or mall shootings happen. They're everywhere and trump does nothing. What he does do is not what the large majority want.

There's not much to be done.

The left doesn't try to do anything either. All they care about is violating people's civil liberties for fun.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Mon 18 Mar, 2019 04:46 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
someone says that they want to violate my civil liberties

You have a quote from that someone, genius?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 18 Mar, 2019 05:29 pm
@Olivier5,
Sure thing. Here are some quotes:

"total prohibition of civilian possession and use of all light weapons and automatic rifles, semi-automatic rifles, and machine guns;"

"restriction of the number of firearms that may be owned by individuals;"

"weapons for military use and of military capacity have no place in the hands of civilians. However in some nations weapons get classified according to their use, which creates loopholes."

"ban civilian possession of semi-automatic variants of fully automatic firearms because of their lethality and limited utility for civilian purposes"

"allow handguns only for professional security guards and for target shooters who can prove that they are regularly involved in pistol sports"

"A maximum limit can be placed on the amount of ammunition that can be purchased in a month, as well as a limit to the amount of ammunition that can be stored."

"limit the amount and type of ammunition that an individual may purchase or possess"

"Licence applicants may be required to provide a good reason, justifying why they need to possess a firearm. Legislation may prescribe the circumstances under which possession of a firearm maybe justified."

"If 'personal protection' is permitted as a good reason, applicants should prove to the police that they are in genuine danger that could be avoided by being armed."

"The carrying of firearms in public by civilians should be restricted and it is important that this is explicitly stated that a license does not itself authorise the public carriage of a small arm (an exception can be introduced for 'on duty' employees of private security companies, but in this case such employees should be required to possess a special carrying permit)."

"a 28-day minimum 'cooling off' period between the sale of a specific firearm and the delivery of this arm to the license holder could prevent 'impulse purchases' by license holders"

"Someone may have a good reason to possess a single firearm, but the law should not assume that this same reason automatically justifies a second one, or a third. Each time good reasons should be proven, taking into account the firearms already possessed. In addition, there should be an upper limit for the number of firearms possessed."
revelette1
 
  2  
Mon 18 Mar, 2019 05:44 pm
Quote:
Pentagon tells Congress how projects might be delayed to pay for President Trump's wall

WASHINGTON – Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan on Monday forwarded to Congress the list of construction projects the Pentagon could delay to pay for President Donald Trump's border wall.

The projects range across the country and around the world, from an air traffic control tower in Alabama to fuel tanks in Australia, according to the 21-page document obtained by USA TODAY.

"Decisions have not yet been made concerning which border barrier projects will be funded" under the president's authority, according to the Pentagon memo attached to the list.

Democrats pounced on the list and Trump's emergency declaration as a political.

“What President Trump is doing is a slap in the face to our military that makes our border and the country less secure," said Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee. "He is planning to take funds from real, effective operational priorities and needed projects and divert them to his vanity wall. That may help shore up his political base, but it could come at the expense of our military bases and the men and women of our Armed Forces who rely on them."

Trump's declaration of a national emergency to build the wall allows him to tap billions in military construction projects such as garages and air traffic control towers. The projects have been approved by Congress but contracts have not yet been signed for them. They would delayed, not canceled, according to the Pentagon.

The Pentagon's list contains projects that require funding after September, putting them into the 2020 fiscal year. Not all of the projects listed would be used to fund the wall, according to a memo attached to the list. The Air Force, Army, Navy and National Guard list potential projects that could be affected, touching stated from Maine to Hawaii.

The Navy, including the Marine Corps, has the most expensive list of projects at $2.3 billion. The Air Force has $1.4 billion in projects that could be delayed, followed by the Army at $1 billion. Bases shared by all the services and other defense agencies had exposure of $1.5 billion.

The House and Senate have approved resolutions opposing Trump's emergency declaration. But he vetoed the measure last week, and there are not enough votes to overturn it.

Senators grilled Shahanan last week about the list of projects that could be delayed and accused him of acting in bad faith when he did not produce a list. Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., accused Trump of planning to "ransack the Pentagon budget" for more than $6 billion. He blasted Shanahan for failing to act in good faith with the Senate.


USA TODAY
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 18 Mar, 2019 07:08 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
Pentagon tells Congress how projects might be delayed to pay for President Trump's wall

If that is what it takes to secure the border, so be it. Remember Congress ignored the experts who do the job, the president did not.
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 02:07 am
@oralloy,
These are options presented for consideration to states wanting to regulate firearms, like New Zealand these days for instance. Nothing to with WANTING anything, and it's not about little you either. Nor about Snoopes, nor about Obama...
hightor
 
  6  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 02:40 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Sure thing. Here are some quotes:

All highly reasonable suggestions which should have been enacted a hundred years ago.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 02:54 am
@hightor,
It's eerie how every single time someone proposes violating civil liberties, they always claim some variant of "reason" or "common sense".

People who propose fascism do the same.

At any rate, the fact that leftists want to violate our civil liberties for fun is exactly why it is important to vote for Mr. Trump and the Republicans.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 02:58 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Nothing to with WANTING anything,

Wrong. The group promotes those policies because it favors implementing them.


Olivier5 wrote:
and it's not about little you either.

Well, I'm one of the people whose rights would have been violated.


Olivier5 wrote:
Nor about Snoopes,

Except for the fact that Snopes lied to cover it up.


Olivier5 wrote:
nor about Obama...

Perhaps not. But he did try his own outrageous gun ban. The NRA ended up destroying his presidency to prevent it. It's why Trump is president today.
Olivier5
 
  5  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 03:34 am
@oralloy,
What sodding "group" are you talking about now?

If you express yourself in confused ways all the time, you will never understand anything.
hightor
 
  7  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 03:38 am
Who Do Jared and Ivanka Think They Are?

A new book probes the Kushner family’s secrets.

Quote:
Many high achievers, particularly women and people of color, suffer from impostor syndrome, the fear that they don’t belong in the rarefied realm to which they’ve ascended and that they will soon be found out. Even Michelle Obama, who is, according to a Gallup poll conducted last year, the most admired woman in America, has said that she feels it. “I share that with you because we all have doubts in our abilities, about our power and what that power is,” she told students in London in December.

Well, maybe not all of us. I’ve just finished Vicky Ward’s “Kushner, Inc.,” a scintillating investigation of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s White House sojourn, which comes out on Tuesday. It’s full of damning details: contempt for the entitled, venal couple may be the one thing that unites all of D.C.’s warring factions. Still, the first daughter and her husband remain psychologically mysterious, at least to me. Why don’t they have impostor syndrome, given that their total lack of qualifications for the jobs they are doing makes them actual impostors?

According to “Kushner, Inc.,” Gary Cohn, former director of the National Economic Council, has told people that Ivanka Trump thinks she could someday be president. “Her father’s reign in Washington, D.C., is, she believes, the beginning of a great American dynasty,” writes Ward. Kushner, whose pre-White House experience included owning a boutique newspaper and helming a catastrophically ill-timed real estate deal, has arrogated to himself substantial parts of American foreign policy. According to Ward, shortly after Rex Tillerson was confirmed as secretary of state, Kushner told him “to leave Mexico to him because he’d have Nafta wrapped up by October.”

As political actors, the couple are living exemplars of the Dunning-Kruger effect, a psychological phenomenon which leads incompetent people to overestimate their ability because they can’t grasp how much they don’t know.

Partly, the Jared and Ivanka story is about the “reality distortion field” — a term one of Ward’s sources uses about Kushner — created by great family wealth. She quotes a member of Trump’s legal team saying that the two “have no idea how normal people perceive, understand, intuit.” Privilege, in them, has been raised to the level of near sociopathy.

Ward, the author of two previous books about the worlds of high finance and real estate, has known Kushner slightly for a long time; she told me that when he bought The New York Observer newspaper in 2006, he tried to hire her. She knocks down the idea that either he or his wife is a stabilizing force or moral compass in the Trump administration. Multiple White House sources told her they think it was Kushner who ordered the closing of White House visitor logs in April 2017, because he “didn’t want his frenetic networking exposed.” Ward reports that Cohn was stunned by their blasé reaction to Trump’s defense of the white-nationalist marchers in Charlottesville, Va.: “He was upset that they were not sufficiently upset.”

Still, even if you assume that the couple are amoral climbers, their behavior still doesn’t quite make sense. Ward writes that Ivanka’s chief concern is her personal brand, but that brand has been trashed. The book cites an October 2017 survey measuring consumer approval of more than 1,600 brands. Ivanka’s fashion line was in the bottom 10. A leading real estate developer tells Ward that Kushner, now caught up in multiple state and federal investigations, has become radioactive: “No one will want to do business with him.” (Kushner resigned as C.E.O. of Kushner Companies in 2017, but has kept most of his stake in the business.)

To truly make sense of their motivations, Ward told me, you have to understand the gravitational pull of their fathers. Husband and wife are both “really extraordinarily orientated and identified through their respective fathers in a way that most fully formed adults are not,” she said.

Among the most interesting parts of “Kushner, Inc.,” are the chapters about the business history of Charles Kushner, Jared’s felonious father, and his plan to restore his reputation, with Jared’s help, after getting out of prison in 2006. Part of that rehabilitation project was the purchase of a flagship building in Manhattan — 666 Fifth Avenue, an absurdly on-the-nose address — for which the family paid a record amount at the very height of the real estate market in 2007. When the Great Recession hit, the building became a white elephant, its debt threatening the family fortune.

Ward’s book suggests that the search for someone who would bail out 666 Fifth Avenue has played a significant role in American foreign policy during the Trump administration. And since the completion of her book, we’ve learned that Trump overrode intelligence officials, who were concerned about Kushner and his family’s ties to foreign investors, to give Kushner a security clearance.

In the end, the Kushner family seems to have gotten what it wanted. Last year, Brookfield Asset Management, which has substantial investment from the government of Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund, came to the Kushners’ rescue. (The Qataris have denied any advance knowledge of the deal.)

“You’ll notice that the U.S. position toward Qatar changes when the Qataris bail out 666 Fifth Avenue,” said Ward, adding, “We look like a banana republic.” Maybe that’s why Jared and Ivanka appear so blithely confident. As public servants, they’re obviously way out of their depth. But as self-dealing scions of a gaudy autocracy? They’re naturals.

nyt
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 03:47 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
What sodding "group" are you talking about now?

The same one that I've been talking about all along. The UN and their various NGOs.


Olivier5 wrote:
If you express yourself in confused ways all the time, you will never understand anything.

I'm not expressing myself in a confused way, and I already understand everything.
hightor
 
  6  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 03:51 am
@oralloy,
It's pathetic how every time someone suggests measures to protect innocent people from being intimidated, extorted, or slaughtered by nutcases with guns (of which there seems to be a never-ending supply — of nutcases and guns) some "freedom fetishist" immediately crawls out from under a rock and starts bleating about "fascism".

The right to bear arms is an obsolete concept from the 18th Century. Whereas many of the ideals of the enlightenment have helped to sustain representative government and civil society this particular holdover from Anglo-Saxon times no longer serves any useful purpose.

Please bring your semi-automatic into the nearest police station to be confiscated and destroyed.
Olivier5
 
  4  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 03:55 am
@oralloy,
The UN doesn't have NGOs, by definition. UN organizations are governmental organizations: their bosses are their member states.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 04:04 am
@Olivier5,
That is incorrect. There are lots of UN NGOs.

IANSA for example.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 04:05 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
It's pathetic how every time someone suggests measures to protect innocent people from being intimidated, extorted, or slaughtered by nutcases with guns

Your suggestions are not designed to do any such thing. They are designed only to violate people's civil liberties for your entertainment.


hightor wrote:
some "freedom fetishist" immediately crawls out from under a rock and starts bleating about "fascism".
The right to bear arms is an obsolete concept from the 18th Century. Whereas many of the ideals of the enlightenment have helped to sustain representative government and civil society this particular holdover from Anglo-Saxon times no longer serves any useful purpose.

Thank you for admitting that leftists hate our civil liberties and want to abolish them.

Voting for Trump and the Republicans will protect our civil liberties and preserve our freedom.


hightor wrote:
Please bring your semi-automatic into the nearest police station to be confiscated and destroyed.

No.
Olivier5
 
  3  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 04:32 am
@oralloy,
The UN doesn't administer or manage NGOs like IANSA. They just collaborate on certain topics but are independent entities.

The FBI collaborates with the UN on certain topics such as international drug trade, but it doesn't follow that the FBI is a UN agency.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 04:48 am
@Olivier5,
True. But it doesn't make their anti-gun plotting any less vile.
hightor
 
  3  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 04:51 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Thank you for admitting that leftists hate our civil liberties and want to abolish them.

Sorry, I don't speak for all "leftists", I merely speak as one anti-rightist.

Owning a semi-automatic weapon is not a "civil liberty" as there is no demonstrable harm to individuals who are prohibited from obtaining or possessing them.

Bring your semi-automatic to your local police station for confiscation and destruction. This is your second summons. You'd have been paid book value for your weapon had you replied to the first summons. You'll only get 50% now. Third summons and you get nothing. Oh you're a scofflaw? Jail.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 19 Mar, 2019 04:55 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Sorry, I don't speak for all "leftists", I merely speak as one anti-rightist.

Your hatred for freedom and civil liberties is typical of leftists.


hightor wrote:
Owning a semi-automatic weapon is not a "civil liberty" as there is no harm to individuals who are prohibited from obtaining them.

Wrong. The lack of any justification for banning them means that such bans are a violation of our civil liberties.


hightor wrote:
Bring your semi-automatic to your local police station for confiscation and destruction.

No.
 

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