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hightor
 
  3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 06:24 am
How Giuliani Might Take Down Trump

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Any onetime Mafia investigator who listened to the Trump “fixer” Michael Cohen testify Wednesday would have immediately recognized the congressional hearing’s historical analogue — what America witnessed on Capitol Hill wasn’t so much John Dean turning on President Richard Nixon, circa 1973; it was the mobster Joseph Valachi turning on the Cosa Nostra, circa 1963.

The Valachi hearings, led by Senator John McClellan of Arkansas, opened the country’s eyes for the first time to the Mafia, as the witness broke “omertà” — the code of silence — to speak in public about “this thing of ours,” Cosa Nostra. He explained just how “organized” organized crime actually was — with soldiers, capos, godfathers and even the “Commission,” the governing body of the various Mafia families.

Fighting the Mafia posed a uniquely hard challenge for investigators. Mafia families were involved in numerous distinct crimes and schemes, over yearslong periods, all for the clear benefit of its leadership, but those very leaders were tough to prosecute because they were rarely involved in the day-to-day crime. They spoke in their own code, rarely directly ordering a lieutenant to do something illegal, but instead offering oblique instructions or expressing general wishes that their lieutenants simply knew how to translate into action.

Those explosive — and arresting — hearings led to the 1970 passage of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, better known as RICO, a law designed to allow prosecutors to go after enterprises that engaged in extended, organized criminality. RICO laid out certain “predicate” crimes — those that prosecutors could use to stitch together evidence of a corrupt organization and then go after everyone involved in the organization as part of an organized conspiracy. While the headline-grabbing RICO “predicates” were violent crimes like murder, kidnapping, arson and robbery, the statute also focused on crimes like fraud, obstruction of justice, money laundering and even aiding or abetting illegal immigration.

It took prosecutors a while to figure out how to use RICO effectively, but by the mid-1980s, federal investigators in the Southern District of New York were hitting their stride under none other than the crusading United States attorney Rudy Giuliani, who as the head of the Southern District brought charges in 1985 against the heads of the city’s five dominant Mafia families.

Ever since, S.D.N.Y. prosecutors and F.B.I. agents have been the nation’s gold standard in RICO prosecutions — a fact that makes clear precisely why, after Mr. Cohen’s testimony, President Trump’s greatest legal jeopardy may not be in the investigation by the special counsel, Robert Mueller.

What lawmakers heard Wednesday sounded a lot like a racketeering enterprise: an organization with a few key players and numerous overlapping crimes — not just one conspiracy, but many. Even leaving aside any questions about the Mueller investigation and the 2016 campaign, Mr. Cohen leveled allegations that sounded like bank fraud, charity fraud and tax fraud, as well as hints of insurance fraud, obstruction of justice and suborning perjury.

The parallels between the Mafia and the Trump Organization are more than we might like to admit: After all, Mr. Cohen was labeled a “rat” by President Trump last year for agreeing to cooperate with investigators; interestingly, in the language of crime, “rats” generally aren’t seen as liars. They’re “rats” precisely because they turn state’s evidence and tell the truth, spilling the secrets of a criminal organization.

Mr. Cohen was clear about the rot at the center of his former employer: “Everybody’s job at the Trump Organization is to protect Mr. Trump. Every day most of us knew we were coming and we were going to lie for him about something. That became the norm.”

RICO was precisely designed to catch the godfathers and bosses at the top of these crime syndicates — people a step or two removed from the actual crimes committed, those whose will is made real, even without a direct order.

Exactly, it appears, as Mr. Trump did at the top of his family business: “Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That’s not how he operates,” Mr. Cohen said. Mr. Trump, Mr. Cohen said, “doesn’t give orders. He speaks in code. And I understand that code.”

What’s notable about Mr. Cohen’s comments is how they paint a consistent (and credible) pattern of Mr. Trump’s behavior: The former F.B.I. director James Comey, in testimony nearly two years ago in the wake of his firing, made almost exactly the same point and used almost exactly the same language. Mr. Trump never directly ordered him to drop the Flynn investigation, Mr. Comey said, but he made it all too clear what he wanted — the president isolated Mr. Comey, with no other ears around, and then said he hoped Mr. Comey “can let this go.” As Mr. Comey said, “I took it as, this is what he wants me to do.” He cited in his testimony then the famous example of King Henry II’s saying, “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?,” a question that resulted in the murder of that very meddlesome priest, Thomas Becket.

The sheer number and breadth of the investigations into Mr. Trump’s orbit these days indicates how vulnerable the president’s family business would be to just this type of prosecution. In December, I counted 17, and since then, investigators have started an inquiry into undocumented workers at Mr. Trump’s New Jersey golf course, another crime that could be a RICO predicate; Mr. Cohen’s public testimony itself, where he certainly laid out enough evidence and bread crumbs for prosecutors to verify his allegations, mentioned enough criminal activity to build a racketeering case. Moreover, RICO allows prosecutors to wrap 10 years of racketeering activity into a single set of charges, which is to say, almost precisely the length of time — a decade — that Michael Cohen would have unparalleled insight into Mr. Trump’s operations. Similarly, many Mafia cases end up being built on wiretaps — just like, for instance, the perhaps 100 recordings Mr. Cohen says he made of people during his tenure working for Mr. Trump, recordings that federal investigators are surely poring over as part of the 290,000 documents and files they seized in their April raid last year.

Indicting the whole Trump Organization as a “corrupt enterprise” could also help prosecutors address the thorny question of whether the president can be indicted in office; they could lay out a whole pattern of criminal activity, indict numerous players — including perhaps Trump family members — and leave the president himself as a named, unindicted co-conspirator. Such an action would allow investigators to make public all the known activity for Congress and the public to consider as part of impeachment hearings or re-election. It would also activate powerful forfeiture tools for prosecutors that could allow them to seize the Trump Organization’s assets and cut off its income streams.

The irony will be that if federal prosecutors decide to move against President Trump’s empire and family together, he’ll have one man’s model to thank: his own TV lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who perfected the template to tackle precisely that type of criminal enterprise.

nyt
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 06:45 am
@hightor,
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After all, Mr. Cohen was labeled a “rat” by President Trump last year for agreeing to cooperate with investigators; interestingly, in the language of crime, “rats” generally aren’t seen as liars. They’re “rats” precisely because they turn state’s evidence and tell the truth, spilling the secrets of a criminal organization.
Good point.

And what a lovely irony if Giuliani's prior work with the Mafia leads to charges against Trump.
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 06:46 am
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The Making of the Fox News White House
Fox News has always been partisan. But has it become propaganda?
By Jane Mayer

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house
revelette1
 
  4  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 08:08 am
The average worker isn’t seeing Trump’s “economic miracle.” Here’s why.
Just look at these two charts.
Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 09:10 am
@revelette1,
Shortly after Trump received an unfavourable ruling about his golf course by the Court of Session*, he tweeted

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https://i.imgur.com/wdeT5kE.jpg


Trump’s Aberdeen golf course – opened in 2012 - was his organisation’s first in Europe and designed to take advantage of wealthy customers from oil companies based in the region.
But figures show the course has lost money each year, and Trump has been forced to spend more than $69m (£52m) of his own cash to keep it afloat.

The president’s more famous Scottish course, in Turnberry, lost $4.5m (£3.5m) in 2017 – the fourth consecutive year it failed to make a profit.


* The firm "formerly" headed by Trump has been ordered to pay Holyrood’s legal bills over the Aberdeen Bay wind farm battle.
Judges at the Court of Session ruled Trump International Golf Club Scotland Ltd should pay legal bills incurred by the Scottish Ministers.
(The ruling follows a decision against the Trump holdings at the Supreme Court in London.)
BBC: Scottish government wins Donald Trump wind power legal costs
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 11:26 am
@glitterbag,
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Do you let 5 year olds run your household???

Coming from the side that uses children for props? You were all content with children making our gun laws after Parkland. And the children at our borders that are not American citizens should change our immigration laws.

Try again, you are simply wrong again and if anyone should be ignored it should be you.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 11:30 am
@blatham,
Back again? Should I remind you what you said? Start another thread, you do not belong here and your word means 0.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:08 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
Just look at these two charts.

Here is the source for your second chart.
Quote:
7,000 Employers Use Our
Award-Winning Software to Craft and Give Life to Their Pay Brand

https://www.payscale.com/
Hardly a credible source.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:15 pm
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Why do Canadian Imams call Jews “the sons of the pigs and apes”?

I should let our Canadians answer that. Anyone think they will?

But off hand, I would say they are quoting Islamic holy literature. Hate for non-Muslims is clearly obligated in that literature. No matter what county it is preached in will not change that.

http://jcpa.org/article/why-do-canadian-imams-call-jews-the-sons-of-the-pigs-and-apes/
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blatham
 
  1  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:20 pm
Voices From The Right- episode 729
Quote:
Jennifer Rubin
‏Verified account
@JRubinBlogger
Let’s not overthink this. Republicans repeat and endorse Trump’s lies because they are afraid to incur the wrath of Trump, his state TV (Fox News) and the mob (the GOP base and its echo chamber in right-wing media).
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:22 pm
Voices From The Right - episode 730
Quote:
Jennifer Rubin
‏Verified account
@JRubinBlogger
It’s one thing for an ordinary person who has marinated in Fox News and Rush Limbaugh propaganda for decades to believe just about anything Trump says, but what’s the excuse of elected officials and those appointed to high offices?

coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:33 pm
@blatham,
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Voices From The Right -

The MSM: Voices from the Left. Why are you still here? You look more like a liar with each post, plus it shows a total lack of character.
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neptuneblue
 
  2  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:38 pm
With Sweeping Document Request, Democrats Launch Broad Trump Corruption Inquiry

By Nicholas Fandos
March 4, 2019

WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee delivered a flurry of document demands to the executive branch and the broader Trump world on Monday that detailed the breadth of the Democrats’ investigation into possible obstruction of justice, corruption and abuse of power by President Trump and his administration.

In the two months since they took control of the House, Democrats have begun investigating members of the president’s cabinet, his businesses, his campaign, his inaugural committee and his ties to key foreign powers, including Russia and its attempts to disrupt the 2016 presidential election.

But Representative Jerrold Nadler of New York, the Judiciary Committee chairman, made clear on Monday that the new majority intends to train its attention on actions at the heart of Mr. Trump’s norm-bending presidency — actions that could conceivably form the basis of a future impeachment proceeding.

The letters from Mr. Nadler, dated March 4, went to 81 agencies, individuals and other entities tied to the president, including the Trump Organization, the Trump campaign, the Trump Foundation, the presidential inaugural committee, the White House, the Justice Department, the F.B.I. and dozens of the president’s closest aides who counseled him as he launched attacks against federal investigations into him and his associates, the press, and the federal judiciary. The committee will also investigate accusations of corruption, including possible violations of campaign finance law, the Constitution’s ban on foreign emoluments and the use of office for personal gain.

In a statement released Monday, Mr. Nadler said that it was imperative to “begin building the public record” of what he has contended are Mr. Trump’s abuses. He acknowledged that his work could replicate that of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who is also studying whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice, as well as federal prosecutors in New York.

But those are criminal cases, and aides to the committee noted that Congress has different evidentiary standards than the Justice Department when it comes to potential wrongdoing.

“We will act quickly to gather this information, assess the evidence, and follow the facts where they lead with full transparency with the American people,” Mr. Nadler said in his statement. “This is a critical time for our nation, and we have a responsibility to investigate these matters and hold hearings for the public to have all the facts. That is exactly what we intend to do.”

Mr. Nadler did not mention the word impeachment in any of Monday’s documents, but its specter hangs heavily over Democratic leaders.

In an interview with The New York Times last week, Mr. Nadler said that he believed Mr. Trump had committed crimes while in office and had threatened basic constitutional norms, but he added that he would need to see an overwhelming, bipartisan case against the president before pursuing a step as disruptive as impeachment. He said he did not yet see such a case.

Monday’s requests could build that case. Twice in the past half century, the House Judiciary Committee has drawn up impeachment articles based, in part, on the same themes that Mr. Nadler laid out: obstruction of justice and abuse of power.

The president and the White House have repeatedly rejected accusations of wrongdoing, arguing that the president is innocent of many accusations and has broad powers in his office to run the government as he chooses.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, confirmed on Monday that the White House had received a document request from the committee.

“The counsel’s office and relevant White House officials will review it and respond at the appropriate time,” she said.

Republicans assert that Democrats have already decided to target Mr. Trump for impeachment, saying repeatedly in recent weeks that despite public statements to the contrary, the new majority is determined to kick Mr. Trump out of office. (Even if the House were to impeach Mr. Trump, the Republican-controlled Senate would have to hold a trial and is unlikely to remove the president without an overwhelming case of wrongdoing.)

Committees in both the House and Senate have nibbled around the edges of several of the episodes raised by Mr. Nadler. But his investigation suggests a more coherent, deep investigation of the firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director; Mr. Trump’s attempts to remove the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III; his apparent dangling of pardons and threatening of witnesses to the investigation; and other events.

From Donald F. McGahn II, the former White House counsel, alone, Mr. Nadler requested all documents related to the resignation of Michael T. Flynn as national security adviser, the firing of Mr. Comey, attempts to fire Mr. Mueller, communications with Mr. Trump about Jeff Sessions, the president’s first attorney general, and about ongoing investigations into his presidency.

Mr. Nadler also requested documents from Annie Donaldson, Mr. McGahn’s deputy who took exhaustive notes detailing Mr. Trump’s behavior in the West Wing in real time.

Other targets include David J. Pecker, chairman of American Media Inc., which publishes the National Enquirer; Allen Weisselberg, the chief financial officer of the Trump Organization; Alan Garten, its lawyer; Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law; Mr. Sessions; and Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a close associate of Mr. Trump who led his inaugural committee.

A counsel to the Judiciary Committee said on Monday that response to the letters would determine who and when the committee calls to testify. Lawyers for Mr. Nadler are prepared for protracted negotiations and fights over certain requests.

If the recipients of the requests do not voluntarily comply, Mr. Nadler will probably issue subpoenas to compel them. But even if he does, there are practical limitations that could significantly slow his efforts if a witness were to challenge the subpoena in court.

And the White House could claim executive privilege to try to protect many of the materials central to the committee’s inquiry, including communications between Mr. Trump, Mr. McGahn and other advisers.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 4 Mar, 2019 12:44 pm
@neptuneblue,
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With Sweeping Document Request, Democrats Launch Broad Trump Corruption Inquiry

They found nothing in the Russia investigation. The object is clear that Trump is a target harassed by the state he runs. He still will get things done. The best Congress can hope for is an indictment when he leaves office, and chances of that are slim.

It is a slap in the face to people that voted for Trump and a waste of time and money. It clearly shows Democrats could give a **** about this country.

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And the White House could claim executive privilege

Obama did.
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 01:19 pm
@coldjoint,
The results from the investigation have not been concluded, so you have no idea what's in there.

I have no problem with proverbially slapping Trumpers in the face, it's the WTF are you THINKING two glove across the cheek kinda thing.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 01:22 pm
@neptuneblue,
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The results from the investigation have not been concluded, so you have no idea what's in there.

Too bad, we already know what is not in there. No Russian collusion. A manufactured lie that Mueller, and many others have been caught in.
hightor
 
  2  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 01:52 pm
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 01:57 pm
http://www.poorrichardsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/IMG6a.jpg
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 02:10 pm
@coldjoint,
If you're basing that conclusion on what you think cohen said, as you have done previously, what you think he said was not what he in fact did say. Collusion ia still very much on the table, as well as obstruction of justice and crimes.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 4 Mar, 2019 02:12 pm
@coldjoint,
Clint makes it crystal clear why he is an actor and not a political analyst.
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