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Builder
 
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Wed 27 Feb, 2019 11:47 pm
Jim Jordan telling it like it is, re Michael Cohen.

Love your work, buddy. Convicted perjurer indeed.

glitterbag
 
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Wed 27 Feb, 2019 11:50 pm
@Builder,
Jim Jordan, what a guy.
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:14 am
@oralloy,
I believe you think you are knowledgeable, that's actually a little pathetic. I'm not really trying to demean you, it's just unfortunate you are not curious or discerning. Don't feel badly, there are quite a few people just like you.

I'm not making excuses for Clinton's infidelity, however, he was not removed from office. He also didn't offer to betray the American people to Russia so the Clinton empire could build a Clinton Hotel in Moscow
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:30 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
I believe you think you are knowledgeable, that's actually a little pathetic. I'm not really trying to demean you, it's just unfortunate you are not curious or discerning.
Your failure to point out a single thing that I am wrong about speaks for itself.

glitterbag wrote:
Don't feel badly, there are quite a few people just like you.
Not really. Only one in ten million people are as smart as I am.

glitterbag wrote:
I'm not making excuses for Clinton's infidelity, however, he was not removed from office.
Nor will any Republican presidents be, if they ever commit any crimes.

glitterbag wrote:
He also didn't offer to betray the American people to Russia
Neither did Trump.
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Real Music
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:32 am
http://www.neverrepublican.com/nr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/FAKE-NEWS-RIGGED-NEVER-REPUBLICAN.png
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:55 am
@BillW,
made me laugh
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Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 28 Feb, 2019 01:25 am
Trump not backing down with NK leader.

izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 28 Feb, 2019 01:43 am
@MontereyJack,
It's Cnut, and he was showing his sycophantic courtiers the limits of his power.

He's a local boy after all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Canute_and_the_tide
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 01:48 am
A summit between US President Donald Trump and the North Korean leader
Quote:
Kim Jong-un has ended with no agreement after the US refused North Korean demands for sanctions relief.

"It was about the sanctions," President Trump said at a news conference. "They wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn't do that."

The pair had been expected to announce progress on denuclearisation.

"Sometimes you have to walk and this was one of those times," Mr Trump said.

The original White House programme for the day had planned for a "Joint Agreement Signing Ceremony" as well as a working lunch for the two leaders, but expectations were abruptly dashed with the cancellation of both.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47398974

And after Trump dutifully refused to mention NK's atrocious human rights record too. What a numpty.

When Trump "wrote," is was like Stephen Hawking writing "How I won a **** ton of medals for trampolining."
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 01:52 am
@McGentrix,
Have you seen Breaking Bad? There's a line where Jesse tells Walter that what criminals like them need is a criminal lawyer. The last thing they needed was an honest lawyer because he wouldn't go along with all their ****.

Cohen is a criminal, that's why Trump chose him, because he's a criminal. It's called the flaming obvious. Wipe your chin, retract your tongue and face reality.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 02:05 am
Quote:
The US House of Representatives has approved a bill expanding background checks for all gun sales, including those at gun shows and on the internet.

The legislation is the most significant gun control measure to make progress in Congress in more than two decades.

The Democratic-controlled House passed it by 240 votes to 190. The bill is unlikely to be approved in the Senate, where Republicans have a majority.

President Donald Trump would also need to sign it for it to become law.

The White House said on Tuesday Mr Trump's advisers would recommend that he veto the bill as it would apply "burdensome requirements" that were "incompatible with the Second Amendment's guarantee of an individual right to keep arms".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47396340

Of course he'll veto it, sensible gun control means less dead children.
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Builder
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 03:23 am
Quote:
I don't know how we're supposed to determine the truth when the best witness they can bring before us has already been convicted of lying to us.


He's literally the best they can come up with.

Sad, really.
hightor
 
  4  
Thu 28 Feb, 2019 03:30 am
Republicans Sink Further Into Trump’s Cesspool

Quote:
Michael Cohen’s testimony before Congress on Wednesday revealed as much about the Republican Party as it did about President Trump and his former lawyer. In the aftermath of Mr. Cohen’s damning testimony, several things stand out.

The first is that unlike John Dean, the former White House counsel who delivered searing testimony against President Richard Nixon in 1973, Mr. Cohen produced documents of Mr. Trump’s ethical and criminal wrongdoing. (Mr. Dean had to wait for the Watergate tapes to prove that what he was saying was true.)

Mr. Cohen’s most explosive evidence included a copy of a check Mr. Trump wrote from his personal bank account, while he was president, to reimburse Mr. Cohen for hush money payments. The purpose of that hush money, of course, was to cover up Mr. Trump’s affair with a pornographic film star in order to prevent damage to his campaign.

Other evidence produced by Mr. Cohen included financial statements, examples of Mr. Trump inflating and deflating his wealth to serve his interests, examples of charity fraud, efforts to intimidate Mr. Cohen and his family and even letters sent by Mr. Cohen to academic institutions threatening legal actions if Mr. Trump’s grades and SAT scores were released. (Mr. Trump hammered President Barack Obama on this front, referring to him as a “terrible student, terrible,” and mocking him for not releasing his grades.)

Yet Republicans on the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, in their frantic effort to discredit Mr. Cohen, went after him while steadfastly ignoring the actual evidence he produced. They tried to impugn his character, but were unable to impugn the documents he provided. Nor did a single Republican offer a character defense of Mr. Trump. It turns out that was too much, even for them.

In that sense, what Republicans didn’t say reveals the truth about what happened at the hearing on Wednesday as much as what they did say. Republicans showed no interest, for example, in pursuing fresh allegations made by Mr. Cohen that Mr. Trump knew that WikiLeaks planned to release hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee in the summer of 2016.

In a sane world, the fact that the president’s former lawyer produced evidence that the president knowingly and deceptively committed a federal crime — hush money payments that violated campaign finance laws — is something that even members of the president’s own party would find disquieting. But not today’s Republican Party.

Instead, in the most transparent and ham-handed way, they saw no evil and heard no evil, unless it involved Mr. Cohen. Republicans on the committee tried to destroy the credibility of his testimony, not because they believe that his testimony is false, but because they fear it is true.

By now Republicans must know, deep in their hearts, that Mr. Cohen’s portrayal of Mr. Trump as a “racist,” “a con man” and “a cheat” is spot on. So it is the truth they fear, and it is the truth — the fundamental reality of the world as it actually is — that they feel compelled to destroy. This is the central organizing principle of the Republican Party now. More than tax cuts. More than trade wars. More even than building a wall on our southern border. Republicans are dedicated to annihilating truth in order to defend Mr. Trump and they will go after anyone, from Mr. Cohen to Robert Mueller, who is a threat to him.

He is their emperor, and they are his political Praetorian Guard.

A second thing that stands out from Mr. Cohen’s testimony is that the Republican Party has been as corrupted by its association with Mr. Trump as Mr. Cohen was by his. As Mr. Cohen told Republican lawmakers, “I did the same thing that you’re doing now. For 10 years. I protected Mr. Trump for 10 years.”

He then issued this warning to them: “The more people that follow Mr. Trump — as I did blindly — are going to suffer the same consequences that I’m suffering.” Mr. Cohen later explained the ethos of Trumpworld: “Everybody’s job at the Trump Organization is to protect Mr. Trump. Every day most of us knew we were coming and we were going to lie for him about something. That became the norm.”

The ethic that became the norm at the Trump Organization —- defacing the truth and disfiguring reality in the service of Donald J. Trump — is the ethic that has become the norm of the Republican Party and the American right.

This is what some of us who are conservatives and who have been lifelong Republicans have warned since Mr. Trump began his quest for the presidency — that his corruptions would eventually become theirs.

It didn’t take long.

The way these things happen is simple and insidious. In this case, because Mr. Trump was their party’s nominee, many Republicans felt duty bound to defend him, even though they would from time to time call him out for his worst offenses. They also held out the hope that Mr. Trump would grow in office and become more presidential.

What happened is quite different: As Mr. Trump was elected and then inaugurated, Republicans became more and more reluctant to call him out and more and more vocal in defending him and attacking his critics; rather than weakening, their loyalty to him intensified. And the president, rather than becoming more responsible, has become less restrained, more volatile, more unhinged. The result is the ethical wreckage we saw on display Wednesday.

Republicans should brace for even more damaging revelations. The evidence presented on Wednesday was of course harmful to the president, but Mr. Cohen quite likely revealed only a small fraction of what the Southern District of New York and the Mueller investigation have amassed. But Mr. Cohen did suggest that federal prosecutors are investigating unspecified criminal allegations involving the president that have not been made public.

When this story is finally told — when the sordid details are revealed, the dots finally connected — the Republican Party will be the political and institutional version of Mr. Cohen, who squandered his integrity in the service of a man of borderless corruption.

nyt
Builder
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 03:42 am
@hightor,
You might have been hiding under a rock, when this happened, Hi.

Quote:
Daniels alleges she had an affair with Trump in 2006 and was paid $130,000 as part of a non-disclosure agreement days before the 2016 presidential election. She sued him for defamation after he dismissed her claims of being threatened to keep quiet about the tryst as a “total con job”. The judge threw out the case in October.

“The court’s order, along with the court’s prior order dismissing Stormy Daniels’ defamation case against the president, together constitute a total victory for the president, and a total defeat for Stormy Daniels in this case,” Charles Harder, an attorney for Trump, said in a statement.


source

And if Mueller has the dirt on the president, what is holding him back? Bring it on.
oralloy
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 03:50 am
@hightor,
Quote:
In a sane world, the fact that the president's former lawyer produced evidence that the president knowingly and deceptively committed a federal crime -- hush money payments that violated campaign finance laws -- is something that even members of the president's own party would find disquieting. But not today's Republican Party.
Paying a slut to keep quiet about his sex life is hardly a crime.
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hightor
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 03:51 am
@Builder,
Her defamation lawsuit was thrown out. Why is that significant?

Mueller's findings will be given to the attorney general when the inquiry has been completed. Whether Barr holds anything back is anyone's guess. And there's no promise of "dirt"; that's not the point of the inquiry.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 03:58 am
Russian politics.

https://images.thestar.com/kojNo_x3pihnMiVrK0MuxbW5_UE=/1086x747/smart/filters:cb(2700061000)/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2017/03/27/russian-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny-jailed-for-15-days/alexei-navalny-russiajpg.jpg

Jail the opposition on trumped up charges tried in a kangaroo court.
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neptuneblue
 
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Thu 28 Feb, 2019 05:52 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
The fact that they didn't feel that this "nevertheless" term forestalls criminal prosecution doesn't change the fact that they ultimately said that criminal prosecution was off limits.


Except:

In 1973, the Department of Justice concluded that the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unduly interfere with the ability of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned duties, and would thus violate the constitutional separation of powers. No court has addressed this question directly, but the judicial precedents that bear on the continuing validity of our constitutional analysis are consistent with both the analytic approach taken and the conclusions reached. Our view remains that a sitting President is constitutionally immune from indictment and criminal prosecution.

RANDOLPH D. MOSS
Assistant Attorney General
Office of Legal Counsel



In which case, it can go to Court to decide it's merits to indict a sitting president.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 28 Feb, 2019 06:02 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
I don't know how we're supposed to determine the truth when the best witness they can bring before us has already been convicted of lying to us.


He's literally the best they can come up with.

Sad, really.


Trump being a low level con man and head of a crime family had surround himself with such people that however does not mean that as a result he can not be held accountable for his own criminal actions.

There is of course physical evidences to back his former attorney statements.
 

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