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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 02:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Read the article. Thats what its about.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 02:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Read the article. Thats what its about.

I would buy the NYT, but I can afford toilet paper.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 02:46 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
I would buy the NYT, but I can afford toilet paper.
I knew that there must be a reason why the **** comes out of your mouth.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 02:48 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
I knew that there must be a reason why the **** comes out of your mouth.

Are we upset? Too bad.Laughing Laughing Laughing You live in Germany, **** is a staple in your diet.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 02:57 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
It aint no bb gun. Duh.
This is what a big gun looks like:
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 02:58 pm
@coldjoint,
Get your facts from your toilet paper, do you? Kinda thought that was your source. The article has the facts. The polls. The demographics. Which is why i suggested you read it once it was cited. Dont rant, read.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:02 pm
@MontereyJack,
Saying the NYT is a shill for for Leftisst and globalists is not a rant, it is the truth.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:04 pm
@coldjoint,
No. Its uber right cospiracy theory horsepucky.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:07 pm
@coldjoint,
You could have just clicked the link and read it for free even cheaper than your toilet paper and far less **** filled
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:13 pm
As Yogi Berra said about internet political discussion boards, "It's just the same old, same old unnecessary repetition".
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InfraBlue
 
  4  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:20 pm
@coldjoint,
PDF download link to the Pew Research Center report cited in the NYT article.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/01/Generations-full-report_FINAL_1.18.pdf
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:29 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
PDF download link to the Pew Research Center report cited in the NYT article.

Does that change the fact that what they believe is wrong and has been rammed down their throats by the MSM. It only confirms propaganda is deliberate and it works if you keep repeating it. Not a secret.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 03:48 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
On the contrary. Clear evidence of how the GOP is becoming demoraphically obsolete as anyone who actually talks to younger people in every walk of life will tell you. Youre obsolete joint.
Good grief. How many times are you guys going to fall for this?

Young people are always leftists. They become conservatives when they grow older.

Today's young people will be no different when they grow older.

It'll all be exactly the same the next time you guys stumble across the fact that young people are leftists.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:08 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
I can afford toilet paper.


Someone sounds pretty boastful.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/v5cache/TCM/Images/Dynamic/i112/mainimage_whiteheat_815x333_062120101106.jpg
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:09 pm
I miss FPS Russia.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:13 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Someone sounds pretty boastful.

Here I am. Why don't you cackle with the other hen using PMs?
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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:21 pm
Quote:
Trumpism isn’t defined by racism and tribal dominance rituals alone. It is a value system that prizes lying and dirty dealing as tools of solidarity and of hoarding power. It is why Trump feels comfortable saying whatever nonsense he wants to say—about caravans, and riots, and Hillary Clinton colluding with Russians—in the service of whatever goal he’s trying to advance. The general awareness, right and left, that he’s flooding the zone with horseshit actually strengthens his position among Republicans.
Brian Beutler

Obviously that isn't so for all Republicans but it is generally true of the shape of modern movement conservatism and it certainly true for his base. Trump "owning the libs" is what matters most of all.

Why are these folks so amenable to such a value set? I'd argue that it comes after decades of imbibing the rhetoric of right wing media. Consider Limbaugh or Coulter or Levin or Hannity or Breitbart etc etc. These people/entities operate in the same manner as trolls
Quote:
a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.
Obviously, these behaviors and motivations aren't isolated in internet engagement and certainly existed prior to the internet. Recall Limbaugh's loyal listeners who described themselves (proudly) as "dittoheads" - whatever Rush might say, his listeners were right on board, the more strident the better. The more Rush "owned the libs", all the better.

It's my perception that this fundamental aspect of right wing media ethos and behavior has profoundly influenced the modern party and conservatism in its present form. It is commonly what we see in this forum or any other such. It is what we saw at Covington High School. It's what we saw with "Lock her up!". It's what we see in nearly 100% of Trump's tweets and other personally authored statements.

It is difficult to impossible to have a rational, valuable conversation with a troll because his/her goal is precisely to thwart any such. And it is difficult to impossible, presently, to have a functioning, productive government when one party is so steeped in trolling behaviors and values.




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InfraBlue
 
  4  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:28 pm
@coldjoint,
What propaganda are you referring to?
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:29 pm
Quote:
Obviously that isn't so for all Republicans but it is generally true of the shape of modern movement conservatism and it certainly true for his base. Trump "owning the libs" is what matters most of all.

And what matters to you? Taking our system apart with failed policies and radical judges because you can? Do not ever accuse people of what you are doing yourself because it is more than obvious you hate these people.

That is a way to shut own dialogue before it starts. The hate is all yours. You could wish they were dead, like the old Blatham.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 24 Jan, 2019 04:46 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
What propaganda are you referring to?

Let's see. Socialism works, the government owes you a living, and all white people are racist. That we can coexist with an intolerant culture like Islam and multiculture works. I could go on. 6 genders in Canada? There is nothing Leftists will not lie about if they can increase their power.
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