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Builder
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 04:57 am
@oralloy,
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Israel is very much our ally, and rightly so.


The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1][5]

Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship.[6] Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[7]
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 05:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
We now have a president who recognizes bullshit when he sees it. That really bothers you losers, doesn't it. Let's examine this little screed of yours.

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Trump’s high-profile denial of manmade climate change has occasionally overshadowed the many other ways his agencies are contradicting established research.


The climate is ALWAYS changing, every day since the age of Alley Oop and back from then even. The basic reality is that you losers switched your little talking point/mantra from "global warming" to "climate change" after the global warming shtick blew up in your faces and we entered a long term cooling cycle and you started looking like total idiots. Accusing President Trump of denying "manmade climate change" is like accusing him of denying unicorns and mermaids.

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The agriculture department last month rolled back standards for schools to serve more whole grains, less salt and non-fat flavored milk. Department officials claimed schools struggled with the programs because students wouldn’t eat healthier foods.


The most basic rule of child nutrition is that if the kid can't or won't eat it, the sum total nutritional value is ZERO!

The demokkkrat child nutrition program ( #thanksmichelleobama )
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=%23thanksmichelleobama&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/546fbec069bedd0375b100c5-750-563.jpg

Teens and sex...

Worst possible case, President Trump may be favoring voters and taxpayers who don't want to be paying for birth control for other people.

So what? Has President Trump tried to outlaw condoms or any other sort of birth control? Does that stuff cost thousands or billions of dollars?

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Power plant and car standards are being rolled back, as are pesticide restrictions and wildlife protections.


A study in 2016 indicated that more than half of American families could not afford to buy the cheapest new car )Nissan Versa) being sold in the US at the time; that in fact was a major factor in Trump's victory. How is driving around in 20 year old cars because politicians and bureaucrats have made new cars too expensive to buy supposed to make anybody's life safer???

And then the Obunga "war on coal" and, in fact, the Obunga war on every form of energy production in the United States, but particularly the war on coal despite new technologies making coal very much cleaner and safer... And then you losers accuse us of denying science......

How is freezing to death supposed to be better than a revitalized coal industry using clean technologies??

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The interior department initially sought to remove references to manmade climate change in a report about how sea-level rise might flood national parks.


There ISN'T ANY "manmade climate change"; that is a bunch of Malthusian bullshit being promulgated by ideologues who desire to reduce human populations to medieval levels for the glory of "Gaia". I.E. you are advocating what amounts to a program of genocide.

The EPA is basically a rogue agency. It might have served a useful purpose originally, but it's present purpose appears to be shutting down the US economy altogether. If President Trump can shut that agency down or at least hobble/defang it, he will be strengthening his claim on the title of best president since Lincoln.

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A Democratic staffer for the House science committee, which plans to investigate the administration’s science cuts, said it’s been hard to even track all the agency changes.


Good news coming in bunches....

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hightor
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 06:05 am
Jared Kushner Told Donald Trump That Firing Comey and Flynn Would Help End Russia Probe, Chris Christie Says
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Jared Kushner told his father-in-law, President Donald Trump, that firing former FBI Director James Comey and ex-national security adviser Michael Flynn would help end an investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, Trump’s ousted White House transition team chairman Chris Christie claims.

Kushner, who serves as a senior White House adviser, misjudged the two firings, Christie states in his book Let Me Finish, a copy of which was obtained by The Guardian ahead of its January 29 release. According to Christie's account, Kushner believed that firing Flynn would put a stop to conversations about links between the Trump campaign and Russia during in the 2016 presidential election. Kushner, Christie wrote, also told Trump that firing Comey would not cause “an enormous ****-storm.” In both cases, Kushner's alleged advice proved to be spectacularly ill-judged.

“Again, the president was ill served by poor advice,” Christie wrote, based on detailed talks with Kushner in which he acted in an informal capacity.

Trump in February 2017 fired Flynn, after he misled Vice President Mike Pence, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and press secretary Sean Spicer about his talks with a Russian ambassador during the transition. The president in May 2017 fired Comey, who was then leading the probe into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russians, citing his handling of an investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server usage.

Christie, who served as New Jersey governor, was relatively kind to Kushner in regards to the 2016 Trump Tower meeting that he, Trump’s eldest son Donald Trump Jr. and Trump’s then-campaign manager Paul Manafort attended with Russians offering damaging information on presidential candidate Clinton.

The meeting was “dumb” and Kushner and Trump Jr.’s attendance was a “sign of profound inexperience,” Christie wrote. It was a much more forgiving take than that included in journalist Michael Wolff's January 2018 book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, when he quoted fired White House chief strategist Steve Bannon as saying the meeting was “treasonous.”

Christie on MSNBC’s Deadline White House in December 2017 said that Kushner “deserves the scrutiny, you know why? Because he was involved in the transition and involved in meetings that call into question his role.”

Kushner has reportedly been interviewed by special counsel Robert Mueller with respect to the Trump Tower meeting.

In his book, Christie also says Kushner was the main reason Bannon was carrying out his firing, not long after Trump won the election.

“Steve Bannon…made clear to me that one person and one person only was responsible for the faceless execution that Steve was now attempting to carry out. Jared Kushner, still apparently seething over events that had occurred a decade ago,” Christie wrote.

“The kid’s been taking an ax to your head with the boss ever since I got here,” Bannon is quoted as saying.

Christie attributes Kushner’s alleged acts against him as stemming from Christie’s days as a U.S. attorney in New Jersey in the early 2000s. Christie prosecuted Kushner’s father, billionaire real estate developer Charles Kushner, for tax evasion, illegal campaign donations and witness tampering, which led him to serve two years in federal prison.

newsweek
farmerman
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 06:11 am
@hightor,
Dumb and Dumberer
tsarstepan
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 08:00 am
@farmerman,
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blatham
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 08:21 am
@neptuneblue,
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All eight of the people involved in the “sex trainings” have also been ordered to pay a fine of around $6,000.
The use of the plural here suggests a varied curriculum.
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McGentrix
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 08:22 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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shocked! SHOCKED I tell you! A judge sided against a Republican?! GASP!

But that has nothing to to with how much money he's raking in at his D.C. hotel. CJ was making it seem as if he were foregoing his salary as an act of magnanimity, and I'm suggesting he did it because someone advised him it would look bad for a professed billionaire to be drawing a salary supported by the taxpayers. He should make more of these gestures — like putting up his own money to fund his border security improvements.


A lot of people work at those hotels and for the companies that support them. Should he just lay them all off because he wanted to be President?

I know what you guiys wanted, he should divest himself completely from the empire he built and only live off the salary he makes as President.

In other words, only lifetime politicians could ever be President. No one that ever worked outside of government could ever run because they would have to divest all their "ill-gotten capitalist material goods."

I say screw that and I also say capitalism is good and I fully support it.
hightor
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 08:58 am
@McGentrix,
Why close the hotel? Why not just sell his stake in the enterprise? Divestment is the way these problems are usually handled. Stock portfolio and financial investments can be put into blind trusts for the duration of his presidency. And there's still the question about the emolument clause, because, as you know,
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The problem isn’t theoretical: Saudi Arabia, for example, spent roughly $270,000 at Trump’s Washington hotel during one of the country’s lobbying campaigns last year. Some of that money directly benefited the president.

You'd think he'd want to uphold the law instead of scornfully flouting it. I mean, he is the president.
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I know what you guiys wanted, he should divest himself completely from the empire he built and only live off the salary he makes as President.

Aww... <sniff sniff>

Seriously, in the past, wealthy presidents and other high office holders have taken measures to avoid any appearance of impropriety. It might take more work with Trump because of the extent of his businesses but it's not rocket science and would do much to improve the cloud of unethical behavior which surrounds his administration.



McGentrix
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 09:13 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Seriously, in the past, wealthy presidents and other high office holders have taken measures to avoid any appearance of impropriety. It might take more work with Trump because of the extent of his businesses but it's not rocket science and would do much to improve the cloud of unethical behavior which surrounds his administration.


Which ones? Which President have we had that was not a previous government employee?
gungasnake
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 09:22 am
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50523412_10156138763935914_2589454487340974080_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=a294f26aae1a9cc61d69ee7a83809cd7&oe=5CBCF0F6
farmerman
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 09:31 am
@gungasnake,
Thats cause ya cant learn anything from Trump, so you might as well just get fat.
blatham
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 09:35 am
This Ross Douthat column does two things very badly.

First, the headline
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Racists to the Right, Anti-Semites to the Left
In a populist age, can party establishments sideline bigots?

This was likely written by an editor, not Douthat himself. But it carries the typical thoughtless/careless/flack-avoiding equivalence formulation so popular with outlets like the Times. Why is it wrong?

In the case of King, he has been serving in Congress as a GOP rep for 16 years. He's frequently on TV and covered by the press and has been for years. He has openly and commonly voiced racist ideas of the sort the GOP suddenly finds disagreeable. Further, there is an unfortunately rich history of figures on the right expressing such racist notions and even forwarding policies and regulations that are manifest expressions of racism and white superiority.

In the case of the Women's March organization (as I noted yesterday) there are two or three non office-holding activists who have (in their meetings) expressed positive comments about Louis Farrakhan. And those comments, when made, were challenged by the other participants. Further, and in contrast to the above, there is no discernible tradition of anti-Semitism particular to or isolated in the left.

These are major differences.

And then there's this bit which is entirely Douthat's idiocy. Note the bolded bit particularly.
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The two efforts are similar but not parallel. The push against King is an attempt to redraw a line effaced by Donald Trump’s race-baiting, and since as you may have noticed Trump is still the president, it matters only as a possible marker for a post-Trump Republican future, not a defining statement for the G.O.P. today. The exodus from the Women’s March, on the other hand, is an attempt to get out ahead of a problem before it becomes worse — before anti-Semitism migrates from the left-wing fringe to the center, before the party starts getting its own versions of Jeremy Corbyn in positions of real influence.

This is really, really stupid. There's no imaginable possibility that two or three organizers of the Women's March, who have almost no power or media presence (does anyone here even know anything at all about these two or three?) and who were opposed by a greater number of organizers in that group are going to bring about a resurgence in anti-Semitism on the left.

Douthat swallowed a propaganda meme. Anyone have doubts about where he got it from?

It says something quite negative about the Times' editorial policies and procedures that this was missed and allowed to be.

Finally, towards the end of the editorial, Douthat writes:
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I say “mostly” because the shocking defeat of Hillary Clinton did create a power vacuum in which more crankish figures — from various Resistance grifters to the Women’s March’s Farrakhan–friendly organizers — have gained prominence. But still, nothing like the prominence now enjoyed by grifters on the right.

Some redemption in this.
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 09:55 am
@farmerman,
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Thats cause ya cant learn anything from Trump, so you might as well just get fat.


Those guys don't look terribly fat. In fact, I don't think anybody ever won a national football title by being overweight.

Some of those guys might be survivors of Mike Obunga's scheme to starve all the bigger kids and athletes to death; I suspect you can forget about anybody in that category ever voting for demokkkrats...

#thanksmichelleobama
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Real Music
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:08 am
Ronald Reagan talking about the Russian threat

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hightor
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:24 am
@McGentrix,
So people who've never had a public service job are exempt from any ethical considerations?
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In the past 40 years, every other president has either sold his businesses or put them into a blind trust, in which an independent trustee is named to manage the businesses and the president is barred access. That includes Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Carter even sold his family’s peanut farm to avoid raising ethical questions.

wp
hightor
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:38 am
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'I will serve my six-year term in the Senate': Kirsten Gillibrand vows she WON'T challenge Trump in 2020 if she wins reelection this year

classy
maporsche
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:43 am
@hightor,
From your link:

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Then Sen. Barack Obama made a similar promise that he broke to run in 2008
hightor
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:45 am
@maporsche,
Equally classy. Although at least he waited for a couple of years.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:47 am
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still the racist slob youve always been eh?

What does race have to do with transsexualism? That is what he is implying. He said nothing about his/her color.
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maporsche
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2019 10:47 am
@hightor,
I view this as much ado about nothing.

Literally everybody who meets the minimum requirements should be allowed to run for president if they choose and when they choose.
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