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Real Music
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jan, 2019 11:52 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
I've seen no sign that Russia is trying to violate our civil liberties.

Russia has violated one of our most precious civil liberties.
Russia has committed attacks and assaults on our elections and our democracy.

I thought our constitution was based on our freedoms and our democracy.
I thought our values as a nation were based on our freedoms and our democracy.
I thought our core beliefs as Americans was built on our freedoms and our democracy.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 02:07 am
Quote:
US Republican Steve King has been stripped of his congressional committee seats over comments he made about white supremacy.

Republican leaders in the US House of Representatives voted to remove the Iowa congressman from the Judiciary, Agriculture and Small Business panels.

Mr King sparked furore for questioning why terms like "white supremacy" are controversial.

But he says his comments have been mischaracterised.

Both Democrats and his own party were quick to condemn Mr King for the remarks, made in a New York Times interview last week.

"We will not be seating Steve King on any committees in the 116th Congress," House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said after members of the Republican Steering Committee unanimously voted to remove Mr King on Monday night.

Mr King called the move to remove him from his House assignments a "political decision that ignores the truth".

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell became the latest Republican to speak out against Mr King on Monday, saying he has "no tolerance for such positions".

"Rep King's statements are unwelcome and unworthy of his elected position. If he doesn't understand why 'white supremacy' is offensive, he should find another line of work," Senator McConnell said in a statement.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46872613
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 02:10 am
Quote:
US President Donald Trump has put on a fast food feast at the White House, blaming the partial government shutdown for the lack of catering staff.

He welcomed the winners of the national college football championship, the Clemson Tigers, with more than 300 burgers as well as fries and pizzas.

"Because of the shutdown... we went out and we ordered American fast food paid for by me," he told reporters.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46873386
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 03:18 am
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:
Russia has violated one of our most precious civil liberties.
Russia has committed attacks and assaults on our elections and our democracy.
Hacking and releasing Hillary's emails was hardly an assault on our democracy.

Real Music wrote:
I thought our constitution was based on our freedoms and our democracy.
I thought our values as a nation were based on our freedoms and our democracy.
I thought our core beliefs as Americans was built on our freedoms and our democracy.
Yes.

Note that it is the left that hates these values and tries to violate them.
gungasnake
 
  -1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 04:33 am
Immanuel Maricon is a Soros/Obunga creation. Marine LePen is the legitimate president of France.

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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 04:50 am
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neptuneblue
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 05:00 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Hacking and releasing Hillary's emails was hardly an assault on our democracy.


It's hard to converse with someone who refuses to understand a foreign government, on the behest of out president, unleashed havoc upon our democracy. You seem to revel in the thought that's a good thing.

You say inflammatory things, over and over again, as if yours is the only civil liberties that matters. You did make me laugh by "going on the record" as if A2K is a Court of Law, hellbent to be the proponent of all things true and right. What a farce. But hey, if that's your claim to fame, have at it, pal.

I'll stick to the democratic principles our founding fathers laid out in the Declaration of Independence, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." The Bill of Rights is essential to all of us. When you start deciding who is worthy of those protections and who is not, you've already lost the battle for freedom.




hightor
 
  2  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 05:35 am
Donald Trump and His Team of Morons

Quote:
There have been many policy disasters over the course of U.S. history. It’s hard, however, to think of a calamity as gratuitous, an error as unforced, as the current federal shutdown.

Nor can I think of another disaster as thoroughly personal, as completely owned by one man. When Donald Trump told Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, “I will be the one to shut it down,” he was being completely accurate — although he went on to promise that “I’m not going to blame you for it,” which was a lie.

Still, no man is an island, although Trump comes closer than most. You can’t fully make sense of his policy pratfalls without acknowledging the extraordinary quality of the people with whom he has surrounded himself. And by “extraordinary,” of course, I mean extraordinarily low quality. Lincoln had a team of rivals; Trump has a team of morons.

If this sounds too harsh, consider recent economic pronouncements by two members of his administration. Predictably, these pronouncements involve bad economics; that’s pretty much a given. What’s striking, instead, is the inability of either man to stay on script; they can’t even get their right-wing mendacity right.

First up is Kevin Hassett, chairman of Trump’s Council of Economic Advisers, who was asked about the plight of federal workers who aren’t being paid. You don’t have to be a public relations expert to know that you’re supposed to express some sympathy, whether you feel it or not. After all, there are multiple news reports about transportation security workers turning to food banks, the Coast Guard suggesting its employees hold garage sales, and so on.

So the right response involves expressing concern about those workers but placing the blame on Democrats who don’t want to stop brown-skinned rapists, or something like that. But no: Hassett declared that it’s all good, that the workers are actually “better off,” because they’re getting time off without having to use any of their vacation days.

Then consider what Sean Hannity had to say about taxing the rich. What’s that? You say that Hannity isn’t a member of the Trump administration? But surely he is in every sense that matters. In fact, Fox News isn’t just state TV, its hosts clearly have better access to the president, more input into his decisions, than any of the so-called experts at places like the State Department or the Department of Defense.

Anyway, Hannity declared that raising taxes on the wealthy would damage the economy, because “rich people won’t be buying boats that they like recreationally,” and “they’re not going to be taking expensive vacations anymore.”

Um, that’s not the answer a conservative is supposed to give. You’re supposed to insist that low taxes on the rich give them an incentive to work really really hard, not make it easier for them to take lavish vacations. You’re supposed to declare that low taxes will induce them to save and spend money building businesses, not help them afford to buy new yachts.

Even if your real reason for favoring low taxes is that they let your wealthy friends engage in even more high living, you’re not supposed to say that out loud.

Again, the point isn’t that people in Trump’s circle don’t care about ordinary American families, and also talk nonsense — that’s only to be expected. What’s amazing is that they’re so out of it that they don’t know either how to pretend to care about the middle class, or what nonsense to spout in order to sustain that pretense.

So what’s wrong with Trump’s people? Why can’t they serve up even some fake populism?

There are, I think, two answers, one generic to modern conservatism, one specific to Trump.

On the generic point: To be a modern conservative is to spend your life inside what amounts to a cult, barely exposed to outside ideas or even ways of speaking. Inside that cult, contempt for ordinary working Americans is widespread — remember Eric Cantor, the then-House majority leader, celebrating Labor Day by praising business owners. So is worship of wealth. And it can be hard for cult members to remember that you don’t talk that way to outsiders.

Then there’s the Trump effect. Normally working for the president of the United States is a career booster, something that looks good on your résumé. Trump’s presidency, however, is so chaotic, corrupt and potentially compromised by his foreign entanglements that anyone associated with him gets tainted — which is why after only two years he has already left a trail of broken men and wrecked reputations in his wake.

So who is willing to serve him at this point? Only those with no reputation to lose, generally because they’re pretty bad at what they do. There are, no doubt, conservatives smart and self-controlled enough to lie plausibly, or at least preserve some deniability, and defend Trump’s policies without making fools of themselves. But those people have gone into hiding.

A year ago I pointed out that the Trump administration was turning into government by the worst and the dumbest. Since then, however, things have gotten even worse and even dumber. And we haven’t hit bottom

nyt
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 05:57 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
It's hard to converse with someone who refuses to understand a foreign government, on the behest of out president, unleashed havoc upon our democracy. You seem to revel in the thought that's a good thing.
There is no reason to think that Russia's acts were on behest of our President.

And the result was hardly havoc.

neptuneblue wrote:
You seem to revel in the thought that's a good thing.
Mostly I dismiss it as an untrue thing.

neptuneblue wrote:
You say inflammatory things, over and over again,
I cannot help it that leftists fly into a rage when people state facts.

neptuneblue wrote:
as if yours is the only civil liberties that matters.
I never said anything of the sort. It is wrong for leftists to try to violate the civil liberties of ALL Americans.

neptuneblue wrote:
You did make me laugh by "going on the record" as if A2K is a Court of Law, hellbent to be the proponent of all things true and right. What a farce.
It is reasonable for me to point out that you cannot back up any of your untrue claims about me.

neptuneblue wrote:
But hey, if that's your claim to fame, have at it, pal.
Thank you. I will indeed continue to state the truth.

neptuneblue wrote:
I'll stick to the democratic principles our founding fathers laid out in the Declaration of Independence, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." The Bill of Rights is essential to all of us. When you start deciding who is worthy of those protections and who is not, you've already lost the battle for freedom.
The left are the ones who try to violate civil liberties. I'm the one who defends civil liberties.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 05:58 am
@hightor,
New York Times wrote:
Donald Trump and His Team of Morons
"People who hate Trump" are so much like "people who hated Lincoln". It's uncanny.
neptuneblue
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 06:24 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
There is no reason to think that Russia's acts were on behest of our President.

And the result was hardly havoc.


Untrue, the evidence has already been presented and indictments and guilty pleas have been the result.

oralloy wrote:
Mostly I dismiss it as an untrue thing.


Again, the indictments and guilty pleas are true.

oralloy wrote:
I cannot help it that leftists fly into a rage when people state facts.


Calm down, big boy. No one but you is raging.

oralloy wrote:
]I never said anything of the sort. It is wrong for leftists to try to violate the civil liberties of ALL Americans.


It's a violation of civil liberties to be shot at.

oralloy wrote:
It is reasonable for me to point out that you cannot back up any of your untrue claims about me.


I've pointed out numerous things you're wrong about. If you'd like to track those posts down, be my guest.

oralloy wrote:
Thank you. I will indeed continue to state the truth.


And so will I.

oralloy wrote:
The left are the ones who try to violate civil liberties. I'm the one who defends civil liberties.


Quit violating my civil rights and we'll be just fine.
hightor
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 06:27 am
@oralloy,
What's uncanny is your knack for making meaningless repetitive posts. How about providing an example from the article then, something which explains what you mean, something that gives us a clue as to what you're talking about. "People who hated Lincoln" isn't even discussed in the column. One wonders where you even got the idea to make such a lame suggestion. How many people who hated Lincoln have you canvassed to arrive at this conclusion? Do they share any similarities with people who hated FDR, Oliver Cromwell, Julius Caesar? Oh, they were all opposed to their political leader...wow, that's really uncanny.
Setanta
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 06:52 am
@hightor,
A highly entertaining read--thanks, Boss.
oralloy
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 07:05 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Untrue, the evidence has already been presented and indictments and guilty pleas have been the result.
Cite some of this evidence that Russia's acts were at the behest of our President.

neptuneblue wrote:
Calm down, big boy. No one but you is raging.
You cannot point out any such behavior on my part.

neptuneblue wrote:
It's a violation of civil liberties to be shot at.
Even if that is true, I don't see how it is relevant. But go ahead and cite a civil liberty that is violated by being shot at.

neptuneblue wrote:
I've pointed out numerous things you're wrong about.
Wrong. You failed to back up your claim. You could not and can not point out anything that I am wrong about.

neptuneblue wrote:
If you'd like to track those posts down, be my guest.
Backing up your claims is your job.

neptuneblue wrote:
And so will I.
If you were telling the truth, you could back up your claims about me.

You can't and you won't.

neptuneblue wrote:
Quit violating my civil rights and we'll be just fine.
What civil right of yours am I supposed to have violated?
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 07:10 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
What's uncanny is your knack for making meaningless repetitive posts.
If leftists don't like being compared to the people who hated Lincoln, they could always stop acting like them.

hightor wrote:
How about providing an example from the article then, something which explains what you mean, something that gives us a clue as to what you're talking about.
I did.

Didn't you see my quote of the headline?

hightor wrote:
"People who hated Lincoln" isn't even discussed in the column.
True.

That does not change the fact that the columnist is acting just like the people who hated Lincoln acted.

hightor wrote:
One wonders where you even got the idea to make such a lame suggestion.
It comes from the fact that leftists are acting just like the people who hated Lincoln acted.

hightor wrote:
How many people who hated Lincoln have you canvassed to arrive at this conclusion?
Well, they've all died of old age by this point. The Civil War was some time ago.

hightor wrote:
Do they share any similarities with people who hated FDR, Oliver Cromwell, Julius Caesar?
I don't know.

hightor wrote:
Oh, they were all opposed to their political leader...wow, that's really uncanny.
Being opposed to a policy is one thing. Childish petty bitter mindless hatred is quite another.
hightor
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 08:11 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Didn't you see my quote of the headline?

Calling people "morons" who act in a moronic manner seems justified to me and hardly an example of hatred. If you think the behavior of Hassett and Hannity was misrepresented, you certainly haven't shown us reasons to agree with you. All you've done is attempt to vilify people who don't buy your defense of this administration by countering one perceived insult with a specious one of your own.
Quote:
Childish petty bitter mindless hatred is quite another.

However, the columnist clearly laid out his case and provided examples to illustrate the points he was making, unlike you. Why is that "childish"? Or "petty"? Or "bitter"? Or "mindless"? How does it express "hatred"?

oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 08:30 am
@hightor,
If you can't see how "going around repeating that Trump supporters are morons" isn't childish bitterness, I don't know how to explain it to you.
gungasnake
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 08:34 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Again, the indictments and guilty pleas are true.


Guilty pleas obtained by threatening people's families do not count. Mueller is infamous for that kind of ****. Moreover, the guilty pleas they've obtained that way are for lying to the fbi, not colluding with Russia or Mars or Alpha Centauri, basically fishing expedition **** involving 60+ year old memories being less than perfect.

https://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398634

Quote:

Robert Mueller’s months-long witch hunt into so-called ‘Russian collusion’ continues to spiral out of control. Despite hundreds of hours of non-stop liberal-media coverage, most Americans still know very little about the man behind the probe.

Congressman Louie Gohmert has had enough of the special counsel’s abuse of power, and he’s prepared to ‘unmask’ Mueller’s questionable history and total lack of judgment spanning decades.

In Robert Mueller: Unmasked, the GOP Representative pulls back the curtain and exposes the sordid truth surrounding the special counsel’s career.

“What I have accumulated here is absolutely shocking upon the realization that Mueller’s disreputable, twisted history speaks to the character of the man placed in a position to attempt to legalize a coup against a lawfully elected President,” writes Gohmert.

Download his bombshell report here:

https://www.hannity.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Gohmert_Mueller_UNMASKED.pdf





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gungasnake
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 08:39 am
One thing all leftists need to understand: Anything at all happens to Donald Trump, INCLUDING being impeached and removed by any combination of demokkkrats, rinos, snowflakes, deep-state actors or whatever else, and you will be looking at a second civil war which you will have zero chance of winning. That is the bottom line.
hightor
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jan, 2019 08:47 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
One thing all leftists need to understand: Anything at all happens to Donald Trump, INCLUDING being impeached and removed by any combination of demokkkrats, rinos, snowflakes, deep-state actors or whatever else, and you will be looking at a second civil war which you will have zero chance of winning.

That's pretty funny, and I've seen you making these impotent threats before. But you wouldn't be talking so tough if you didn't think the Russian Federation had your back. That is the bottom line. Without Russia, Trump would still be peddling steaks.
 

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