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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:27 am
@farmerman,
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so Trump, like HITLER , will take the country down ith him.

The MSM and the useful idiots from the mobs of haters out there have much more in common with Hitler. The propaganda has Americans hating Americans. That wll bring the country before anything Trump might do. Hitler crap from the Left is desperation. And open borders will bring more misery than you idiots could ever imagine. I will not stand by and see this country destroyed because it makes people feel good about themselves. Your ilk is selfish and stupid.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:35 am
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Israel Completing Underwater Barrier To Keep Terrorists Out. Because Walls Work!

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Democrats like to say that building a wall at our border is “immoral.”

But do you know what’s really immoral?

Putting our national security at risk just to score cheap political points.


And opposing the efforts of the President of the United States to secure our borders because you didn’t like the outcome of the election.

Selfish and stupid.
https://tammybruce.com/2019/01/israel-completing-underwater-barrier-to-keep-terrorists-out-because-walls-work.html
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hightor
 
  5  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:39 am
@coldjoint,
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The propaganda has Americans hating Americans.

Been to a Trump rally lately?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:46 am
@hightor,
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Been to a Trump rally lately?

No, I have not. Please point out what you consider propaganda. Be specific, I can.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:46 am
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:
Maybe, but in the long run they are making it worse for themselves and their offspring by reinforcing a pattern of shirking responsibility and prioritizing the wrong things.

You see, things are good when we have a sincere culture of progress; not just political/social progress, but also technological progress, and moral progress. That means that when science identifies environmental problems and unsustainabilities, we work to understand those and put efforts into solutions. If sacrifices are required, we talk about how to make those sacrifices in the way that is least painful, not reject them by blaming 'environmentalists' who won't whitewash energy they can't conscionably justify.
Using clean safe nuclear power doesn't whitewash anything. These environmentalists have no actual reason for opposing nuclear power. They are just nutcases.

I think it is fair to blame nutcases when their weird ideas cause trouble for humanity.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:48 am
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:
Likewise, Earth has a fusion nuclear reactor that warms it up during the day, and it has night and winter to block out energy from that fusion reactor and allow cooling to happen. Day and night and summer and winter are effective heating and cooling systems that facilitate the survival of all species that have survived to the present day; so why are those inadequate for humans?
Because we have higher energy needs.

livinglava wrote:
What I have learned from all this comparison of artificial engineering with the long-term evolution of self-sustaining natural systems is that we should have more respect and appreciation for the natural systems. Yes, it is good that we have developed the intelligence and skill and drive to engineer artificial systems where needed, but we should put just as much intelligence, skill, and drive/effort into minimizing the impact and footprint of our artificial systems in order to preserve as much of the long-term self-sustaining natural systems of the planet as possible.

Don't you agree that there is value in preserving nature? Don't you think human engineers still have a lot to learn from (dare I say it?) God's engineering? Can't we use our intelligence and skill to build more effective technologies that use less resources and displace less nature instead of more? Can't you see the benefit of incorporating natural 'technologies' into the 'infrastructure' that will support as many humans as necessary?

If so, I think what you'll find is that more human lives can ultimately be supported by minimizing per capita impact on the environment/resources and displacement of nature than by overdoing it.
Preserving nature is good.

But I don't see how building nuclear reactors prevents us from preserving nature.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 11:54 am
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Another Booming Trump Jobs Report Shocks Establishment

I guess that is Hitler like. He did work wonders for Germany's economy. Shocked
https://godfatherpolitics.com/another-booming-trump-jobs-report-shocks-establishment/
hightor
 
  3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 12:16 pm
@coldjoint,
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Please point out what you consider propaganda.

Here's the first example I found:

Report: Trump Could Arrest Almost Every Democrat in America

It was one of the clickbait links provided on your "Godfather Politics" website. I'm sure any of the others would have been similarly biased.

coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 12:21 pm
@hightor,
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Here's the first example I found:

You said propaganda from a Trump rally, didn't you?
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Been to a Trump rally lately?

Try again, Trump never said anything like that.
snood
 
  7  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 12:31 pm
It's pretty amazing how the Trump-backers refuse to see any negative motives in anything 45 does.
His lying? Well, they don't see any evidence he lies. His past history of fraud and failed business? Well, that's just savvy finance. His amoral behavior, foul language and puerile governance by tweet? Oh, that's just him being a maverick and shaking up government.

It's amazing, and profoundly sad. They have abandoned their sense of right and wrong, and gone all-in on this haphazard POS.

They are truly beyond the reach of reason.
coluber2001
 
  2  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 12:35 pm
@snood,
It's odd how people gravitate towards dictatorships, even when it comes to religion.
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hightor
 
  3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 12:44 pm
@coldjoint,
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You said propaganda from a Trump rally, didn't you?

No. I was talking about the sort of propaganda used by Trump and his apologists to refer to their political opposition. It's not difficult to find examples from Trump rallies, however. Here's an example from the Mississippi senate campaign last year:
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He added, falsely, that the Democratic Party's platform today is "radical socialism and open borders."

He also drew contrasts with Espy, citing his support for "late-term abortion on demand," "a total government takeover of healthcare," and "free taxpayer funded healthcare to illegal aliens."

cnn
His lies are red meat for his slobbering base.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:04 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
It's pretty amazing how the Trump-backers refuse to see any negative motives in anything 45 does.
His lying? Well, they don't see any evidence he lies. His past history of fraud and failed business? Well, that's just savvy finance. His amoral behavior, foul language and puerile governance by tweet? Oh, that's just him being a maverick and shaking up government.
You're missing the fact that none of that matters a bit to the job that he is doing in government.

If he defrauded anyone, I support their right to pursue financial compensation in court.

If he lies or tweets, who cares?

His protecting us from leftists who want to violate our civil liberties, that actually matters.

snood wrote:
It's amazing, and profoundly sad. They have abandoned their sense of right and wrong, and gone all-in on this haphazard POS.
Using "right and wrong" to complain about tweets and lies is a bit silly.

However, should it ever transpire that Trump committed an actual wrong, I'd like to point out that right and wrong has been abandoned ever since the Democrats said that it was perfectly OK for Bill Clinton to commit perjury in a civil trial, perjury before a grand jury, obstruction of justice (sending Betty Currie out to hide the gifts that he had given Lewinsky before investigators could find them), witness tampering (trying to coach Betty Currie on how she should testify), sexual harassment (Paula Jones), sexual assault (Kathleen Willey), and rape (Juanita Broaddrick).

It's a bit late for the left to start worrying about right and wrong.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:25 pm
@snood,
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They have abandoned their sense of right and wrong

We have? Are you kidding? The projection is starting to sicken me. And
45>44
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:27 pm
@hightor,
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No. I was talking about the sort of propaganda used by Trump and his apologists

I guess you should try to be more clear.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Only mathematically. It is the exact reverse politically.
which is why trump has never NEVER had majority support. Which is why he lost the House. Which is why his life is going to be subpoena hell for the next two years. Couldn't happen to a more deserving soul.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:36 pm
@MontereyJack,
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Only mathematically.

Is your math on a par with your typing?
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:44 pm
@coldjoint,
My math is great, mr. viscous.
gungasnake
 
  -1  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:48 pm
@coldjoint,
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Muslim sex grooming gangs have devastated the UK with thousands of victims.....


More like a couple of million. In real life, you can take the stories and numbers you read about in Rotherham and the one or two other places that make the news and multiply that by the number of incorporated places in England.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-a8261831.html
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 5 Jan, 2019 01:51 pm
@MontereyJack,
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My math is great, mr. viscous.

Better find a"safe place".
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