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georgeob1
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2017 11:34 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

How did I know that would be exactly your response.


I have no idea. Did you really know or instead were you already aware of the hypocrisy oand the several convenient shifts of viewpoint this otherwise eminent historian has undergone in the last two decades. "End of history" is in fact a very old idea Livy, the Roman historian also speculated on this idea s about 2,000 years ago, It became fashionable aganin in the late 19th centrury (and probably several additional times before that) as the industrial revolutioin was reaching its first stage of maturity.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 11:39 am
@georgeob1,
I'm going to have to put you in touch with that American border agent who said, after looking at my passport, driver's licence and green card, "Welcome home"
(true not alternate true)

And how's the book shopping coming?
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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 11:42 am
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Does that include corporations are people with the right to vote BS.

That's part of the problem with your train of thought, the Constitution is meant to limit the govt, it isn't meant to limit the people or their dealings. It is used to control how the govt interacts with the people and not to control the people. This country was setup on the principles of Liberty for the people, when you use the Constitution to limit the people, you begin to slip into tyranny.

As long as the the govt creates laws and regulations that control business, the business's should have the same access to govt to redress their grievances.
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blatham
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 11:43 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
I have no idea.

You ought to have. The ad hominem is a favorite ploy. He certainly did get it wrong with that thesis. But who doesn't get stuff wrong? It doesn't follow that everything he writes henceforth is unworthy. He's a bright guy and the piece is a good one, even if you find the thesis disagreeable.
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 11:59 am
@glitterbag,
Are you implying that the only thing he had to say was to brag about his Time mag covers and berate the media? That's all he said? Did he pick on the CIA? Besides, weren't you an IT person for the govt? Did you work as an agent or just an IT geek?
maporsche
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:01 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Are you implying that the only thing he had to say was to brag about his Time mag covers and berate the media? That's all he said? Did he pick on the CIA? Besides, weren't you an IT person for the govt? Did you work as an agent or just an IT geek?


Does he position matter.

If an army veteran worked on communications and never left a chair at an army base are they less of a person?

What about army recruiters? Are they not serving their country?
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:01 pm
@layman,
It sounds like he is getting the Scientology treatment.
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blatham
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:01 pm
As I said before, this is how it starts
Alternate heading:
Making Botulism Great Again!
Quote:
The US Department of Agriculture has banned scientists and other employees in its main research division from publicly sharing everything from the summaries of scientific papers to USDA-branded tweets as it starts to adjust to life under the Trump administration, BuzzFeed News has learned.

According to an email sent Monday morning and obtained by BuzzFeed News, the department told staff — including some 2,000 scientists — at the agency’s main in-house research arm, the Agricultural Research Service (ARS), to stop communicating with the public about taxpayer-funded work.

.. When asked if the notice constituted a halt on the publication of academic articles, one regional director told scientists that research papers could be published in academic journals and presented at conferences, but that all media interviews must be approved by the office of communications in Washington.
Buzzfeed
This is the control and suppression of information in aid of "messaging". More politically charged departments will almost surely get similar directives. It is how authoritarian regimes operate.
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:10 pm
@old europe,
Quote:
You've just been pointing to AB-60s which clearly state, on the card itself: "This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits." and saying "See, this ID allows illegals to register to vote!!!!!"

You don't have to prove citizenship to register to vote, and you don't have to show ID to vote in CA. This is the point you miss. If CA had Voter ID laws, then you might have a point but they don't and neither do you.
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cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:11 pm
@blatham,
This is just the beginning. Trump is a 70 year old child tyrant. We will see many more directives to take away our freedoms and social services.
We can only blame the ignorant voters who trusts this pathological liar.
It seems Medicare/Obamacare is now under threat by this administration.
blatham
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think so, ci.

If we had a big scale and on one side put all the middle class white citizens from any four randomly chosen states, then on the other side of the scale we put Rex Tillerson and Charles Koch, we know whose wishes and demands will be attended to and whose won't.
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blatham
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:24 pm
From AP
Quote:
The Trump administration has instituted a media blackout at the Environmental Protection Agency and barred staff from awarding any new contracts or grants.

Emails sent to EPA staff since President Donald Trump's inauguration on Friday and reviewed by The Associated Press detailed the specific prohibitions banning press releases, blog updates or posts to the agency's social media accounts.
AP
That's the first reporting on media blackout at EPA (though the other part was previously reported. Clarification will be forthcoming because this is important.

It's going to be widespread. Because of who these guys are.
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blatham
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:38 pm
Quote:
Buried under a stack of presidential paperwork President Trump signed shortly after his inauguration was his first official proclamation, declaring last Friday a "National Day of Patriotic Devotion."

But by the time anyone found out about it, it was already over.

Trump proclaimed the day to honor his own inauguration, proclaiming a "new national pride" that would "strengthen our bonds to each other and to our country."
USA Today
Also, it is proclaimed that the first lady must henceforth be referred to as Her Majesticness
giujohn
 
  -1  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:44 pm
@blatham,
And noting your less than Peon status you should refer to the president as sire.
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Baldimo
 
  0  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:45 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
Does he position matter.

Very much so. If they were an IT person fixing servers and computers, they had NOTHING to do with the intelligence portion of the agency and is just lumping himself in with the intelligence agency so he can produce some sort of fake anger on the subject.

Quote:
If an army veteran worked on communications and never left a chair at an army base are they less of a person?

Nope not less of a veteran at all, but I would disregard their opinion on how Chinooks worked or the best way to assault a fortified position. I would ask their opinion on what their specialty was though, if it related to the subject at hand.

Quote:
What about army recruiters? Are they not serving their country?

If you know anything about Army recruiters, you would know that it isn't a job in and of itself, it is actually an assignment, as a CH-47 mechanic I would be placed on assignment to work as a recruiter and once my 3 year stint was up, I would go back to being a mechanic. Anyone in any branch of the US military can be a recruiter, but it isn't their primary MOS.

Baldimo
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:49 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
This is the control and suppression of information in aid of "messaging". More politically charged departments will almost surely get similar directives. It is how authoritarian regimes operate.

Suppression of information? Did you miss this part on purpose: "When asked if the notice constituted a halt on the publication of academic articles, one regional director told scientists that research papers could be published in academic journals and presented at conferences".

You really are making something out of nothing.
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ehBeth
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:53 pm
@blatham,
Harper tried the same thing. It will be interesting to see how it pans out in the US.

Where is Mr. Harper now? (not a real question)

Good thing that scientists around the world started saving American research in November. I'm very proud to know some young people who are involved with that work.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:55 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
If they were an IT person fixing servers and computers, they had NOTHING to do with the intelligence portion of the agency and is just lumping himself in with the intelligence agency so he can produce some sort of fake anger on the subject.


if you're still talking about glitterbag - she's still a she.
farmerman
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:56 pm
@blatham,
I would prefer "Her Babitude"
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 12:57 pm
@blatham,
Well, the National Day of Being Patriotic Four Days Ago Day- that was done a lot better here in Germany ...

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