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maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 02:29 pm
@Baldimo,
That’s what I meant. Sorry my phone typing skills left something out.

What I mean is that now that he’s facing jail time, I wonder if he will spill the beans on anything else he knows to get a sentence reduction.

I could see not doing that right away (strategically, not morally) and hoping for no jail time, but when faced with 3 years, it may be time to fully cooperate.
maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 02:42 pm
@maporsche,
He’s got 4 months before he reports to jail.

4 months to decide if seeing his family is more important than sitting in jail to protect the first family (assuming he has details of how they may have broken the law in the last 12 years).

This may be more damning than anything that Mueller could prove.

His upcoming book will be a best seller.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 02:49 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
This may be more damning than anything that Mueller could prove.

That is the purpose of the Mueller investigation to hang Trump on innuendo and assumption. Damage him badly by the company he kept, while not proving a thing, let alone collusion.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 02:51 pm
Quote:
Caravan Groups To Trump Admin: Pay $50K To Each Migrant And We’ll Go Home

Clearly, these migrants had no intention of abusing our system.
Quote:
Two groups of Central American migrants marched to the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana on Tuesday with a list of demands, with one group delivering an ultimatum to the Trump administration: either let them in the U.S. or pay them $50,000 each to go home, a report said.

https://tammybruce.com/2018/12/caravan-groups-to-trump-administration-pay-50k-to-each-migrant-and-well-go-home.html
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maporsche
 
  6  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 03:00 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
This may be more damning than anything that Mueller could prove.

That is the purpose of the Mueller investigation to hang Trump on innuendo and assumption. Damage him badly by the company he kept, while not proving a thing, let alone collusion.



The Mueller investigation uncovered laws that were broken. That was one of the 3 or 4 things that Republicans directed Mueller to do. Investigate how Russia was involved and further investigate any and all crimes that are uncovered while conducting the investigation.

Whatever Cohen may or may not expose from here on out will probably have nothing to do with the Russia investigation.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 03:05 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
Whatever Cohen may or may not expose from here on out will have nothing to do with the Russia investigation.

But it will be to get Trump. Trump was guilty before this started, quit kidding yourself. Show me the man I'll show you the crime.
maporsche
 
  3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 03:08 pm
@coldjoint,
What do you think Trump was guilty of?

Also, do you think that if Cohen comes forward with details of Crimes by the Trump Organization or a Trump family member that the SDNY should just ignore those crimes?
ehBeth
 
  4  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 03:32 pm
scrumptious

https://hillreporter.com/butinas-boyfriend-admits-to-setting-up-trump-russia-backchannel-via-the-nra-17705

Quote:
Maria Butina’s boyfriend was responsible for setting up the Trump-Russia backchannel, using the NRA as a “conduit.”

Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican operative, made the claim during a private communication released in Butina’s plea deal. In the email, Erickson wrote in December 2016 that he helped to set up a “very private line of communication” between Russia and the Trump campaign. And he used the NRA to do it.


Quote:
Butina, a Russian gun rights activist, was charged with working as a foreign agent earlier this year. She agreed to plead guilty and cooperate with investigators this week. During her plea deal, she admitted to investigators that she and “US Person 1” “agreed and conspired, with a Russian government official to act in the United States under the direction of [a] Russian Official without prior notification to the Attorney General.”


Quote:
ABC News reports that Erickson is “US Person 1” and the Russian official matches the description of Russian banker and Putin ally Alexander Torshin.

Federal prosecutors notified Erickson that he is now a target in the ongoing Russia investigation. In her plea agreement, Butina also admitted she helped Erickson draft a proposal they called “Description of the Diplomacy Project.” Together, they “laid the groundwork for an unofficial channel of communication with the next U.S. administration.”

Prosecutors have said that Erickson “worked with Butina to arrange introductions to U.S. persons having influence in American politics.” Those people included the NRA and the organizers of the National Prayer Breakfast.



Hettema's been right so far
it will be interesting to see what else pans out

https://trump-russia.com
snood
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 03:33 pm
@ehBeth,
I love it
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 05:09 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
What do you think Trump was guilty of?

Guilty of getting elected.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 05:15 pm
@ehBeth,

Quote:
Prosecutors have said that Erickson “worked with Butina to arrange introductions to U.S. persons having influence in American politics.”

Now you just have to prove Trump knew about it. Get back to us on that.
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neptuneblue
 
  3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 05:27 pm



coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 05:43 pm
@neptuneblue,
Look at who is laughing at us. People sacrificing their cultures for the world's approval. No thanks.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 06:06 pm
@coldjoint,
Action is required. Not denying the facts.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 06:42 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Action is required.

What kind of action? Stop immigration? Far too late for that. Islam is political in Europe as in parties that openly push for Sharia. And they win elections
BillRM
 
  3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 06:54 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Action is required.

What kind of action? Stop immigration? Far too late for that. Islam is political in Europe as in parties that openly push for Sharia. And they win elections


Fear of Muslims all one third of the human race that had been around for a thousand years?

From history if you wish to fear any one group it would be Christians not Muslims.
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neptuneblue
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 06:57 pm
@coldjoint,
How did a conversation turn from climate control to Sharia?

Setanta
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 07:17 pm
@neptuneblue,
CJ obsessively hates Muslims, and takes every opportunity to attempt to make the evil Muslims the topic of conversation. It also doesn't believe that climate change is a danger. It has denied that sea level rise is a potential danger.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 07:19 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
How did a conversation turn from climate control to Sharia?

This is how , I said
People sacrificing their cultures for the world's approval.
I thought you agreed that problem needs attention.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 07:23 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
CJ obsessively hates Muslims,

The obsessive hate in Islam is turned on me. I did not say those things, I am letting you know who did. If you want to call it hate, knock yourself out.
 

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