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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 03:40 pm
@coldjoint,
That's a non sequitur. However the conservatives in SCOTUS consistently put ideology above justice. They're the problem not the solution.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 03:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
However the conservatives in SCOTUS consistently put ideology above justice.

You have it ass backwards there. You have something on another thread to care of, don't you? Involving proof.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 04:31 pm
@coldjoint,
'struth. Gore v bush. Heller. Citizens united. gutting the voting rights act. for starters.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 05:13 pm
@MontereyJack,
Kennedy's immigration bill. The **** started quite a while ago.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 06:11 pm
@coldjoint,
??? Well that's a new one. Jack Bobby ted or anthony? What migra bill?

coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 08:23 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
1965: TED KENNEDY Promised His Disastrous Immigration Bill “will not inundate America with immigrants from…deprived nations of Africa and Asia”

He lied. Typical Democrat.
Quote:
In this case, Obama is right: It’s worth reflecting on how much America has changed since 1965, and examine the effects of the legislation Kennedy promoted that brought it about.

The passage of the act marked a fundamental change in America’s immigration policy: Rather than serving the interests of Americans and national unity by setting limits on immigration, the act put “family unification” as the top priority, serving the interests of foreigners first.
Kennedy declared:
“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…

Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset… Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…

In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think… The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

How have Kennedy’s promises stood up to the passage of time?

You have nothing, no knowledge of the past and you bitch about the future.
https://100percentfedup.com/1965-ted-kennedy-promised-disastrous-immigration-bill-will-not-inundate-america-immigrants-fromdeprived-nations-africa-asia/
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Real Music
 
  2  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 09:09 pm
Think President Trump seems rattled now?
There may be more to come.



Published December 3, 2018
Quote:
If President Donald Trump appears to be rattled by special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation now — and his extraordinary tweets on the subject suggest that he is — just wait.

Over the next few weeks, a series of court filings are due that may shed substantial light on what Mueller has learned from people who once sat in Trump's inner circle.

That could happen as soon as Tuesday, when Mueller is scheduled to file a detailed memo in support of the sentencing of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. That memo would include information about any "bad acts" Flynn committed for which he was not charged, and details about his cooperation with the special counsel.

It's possible that filing will be sealed, which means the public won't see it until later. But on Friday, another filing is expected that legal experts say probably will not be sealed — a detailed explanation of why Mueller's office is withdrawing a plea agreement with former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, including the "crimes and lies" Mueller alleges Manafort committed while he purported to be cooperating with the special counsel.

And then, on Dec. 12, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen is expected to be sentenced in federal court in New York, in a hearing during which his other "bad acts," and his cooperation with Mueller, are likely to be further detailed.

"If these submissions are not filed under seal, I would expect to learn much more about the special counsel's investigation into the election of 2016 campaign than we know to date," said former federal prosecutor Daniel Goldman, an NBC News analyst.

Trump continued to appear to be distracted — and infuriated — by the Mueller investigation. In a series of tweets Monday, the president called for prison time for Cohen and appeared to praise his former associate Roger Stone, in a move that many legal experts said shattered presidential norms and raised the specter of witness tampering.

Stone "will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about 'President Trump,'" Trump tweeted. "Nice to know that some people still have 'guts!'"

Trump added in another tweet: "Bob Mueller (who is a much different man than people think) and his out of control band of Angry Democrats, don't want the truth, they only want lies. The truth is very bad for their mission!"

Attorney George Conway, the husband of Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway, replied to Trump on Twitter with a link to the federal statute on witness tampering, which prohibits any effort to "influence, intimidate, or impede," a witness in a criminal proceeding.

Trump may have reason to be concerned, given that in a late-night court filing in Manhattan Friday, Cohen's lawyers revealed that their client, a former Trump fixer, has been cooperating with four separate law enforcement groups: Mueller, the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York, the New York attorney general's office, and the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance.

Cohen's attorney Guy Petrillo said in the filing that his client should get more credit for coming forward despite withering denunciations of the Mueller investigation by the president.

"In the context of this raw, full-bore attack by the most powerful person in the United States, Michael, formerly a confidante and adviser to Mr. Trump, resolved to cooperate, and voluntarily took the first steps toward doing so even before he was charged in this District," Petrillo wrote.

He added that Cohen "could have fought the government and continued to hold to the party line, positioning himself perhaps for a pardon or clemency, but, instead — for himself, his family, and his country — he took personal responsibility for his own wrongdoing and contributed, and is prepared to continue to contribute, to an investigation that he views as thoroughly legitimate and vital."

Cohen and his attorneys also cited the payments he made to women who allegedly had affairs with Trump, strongly implying in their filing that President Trump is the person referred to as "Client-1"— which had widely been assumed.

Petrillo wrote, "We respectfully request that the Court consider that as personal counsel to Client-1, Michael felt obligated to assist Client-1, on Client-1's instruction, to attempt to prevent Woman-1 and Woman-2 from disseminating narratives that would adversely affect the Campaign and cause personal embarrassment to Client-1 and his family."

The filing included 37 letters from friends and family of Cohen to Judge William Pauley, imploring the court for a reduced sentence or a sentence with no jail time.

One of the letters was from Cohen’s father, Maurice Cohen, an 83-year-old surgeon and Holocaust survivor.

He wrote, "So please where Michael is, let me be with him, and where he goes let me go. He is the oxygen in the air that I breathe."

Trump, in a highly unusual intervention by a president into a pending criminal case, tweeted Monday that Cohen "lied for this outcome and should, in my opinion, serve a full and complete sentence."

Mueller's investigation is still progressing, despite the elevation to acting attorney general of Matthew Whitaker, who has been openly critical of the probe.

MSNBC anchor Nicolle Wallace reported last week that Whitaker had not assumed day-to-day supervision of the Mueller probe, leaving that task to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupec did not dispute that but said that nothing had changed since the DOJ released a statement saying that Whitaker is in charge of all Justice Department matters.

If Mueller is allowed to proceed unimpeded, the public may learn a lot more about what he has uncovered in the coming weeks. Some legal experts believe he will use the court filings to inform the public about the progress of his investigation into whether the Trump campaign conspired with the 2016 Russian election interference operation.

"My best sense is there will be a lot of details" in the Manafort filing," former federal prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg told NBC News. "He's sort of depositing a few different important chapters in a few different courts where they would be in the reach of either Whitaker or anyone in Congress" to suppress it.

Former federal prosecutor Harry Littman, an NBC News contributor, said the Manafort filing promises to "give chapter and verse to really explain his real detail how he was lying."

Whether that reveals a lot or a little about the Mueller investigation, he said, depends on what Manafort is alleged to have lied about. For his part, Manafort denies lying.

The submission by Cohen's lawyers made it apparent that Cohen has no plans to waffle, as Manafort allegedly did — he is all-in on cooperating with the government. He apparently believes it's his only chance to get a break on sentencing for his crimes, and get on with his life.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/think-president-trump-seems-rattled-now-there-may-be-more-to-come/ar-BBQrCjH?ocid=UE13DHP
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Real Music
 
  2  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 09:30 pm
Trump’s latest tweets cross clear lines, experts say:
Obstruction of justice and witness tampering.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%e2%80%99s-latest-tweets-cross-clear-lines-experts-say-obstruction-of-justice-and-witness-tampering/ar-BBQsf1s?ocid=UE13DHP
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 10:04 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
experts say:

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Real Music
 
  2  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 10:20 pm
Senior aides push back on Trump's claim that China agreed to cut auto tariffs

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senior-aides-push-back-on-trumps-claim-that-china-agreed-to-cut-auto-tariffs/ar-BBQrFaM?ocid=UE13DHP
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wmwcjr
 
  0  
Mon 3 Dec, 2018 10:41 pm
@RABEL222,
Snakes don't squirm; they slither. Smile
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 02:18 am
Quote:
A legal loophole means a Utah man who allegedly battered a Latino father and son while shouting "I'm here to kill a Mexican" cannot be charged with a hate crime, say officials.

Alan Dale Covington, 50, is accused of brutally beating Jose Lopez, 51, and his son Luis, 18, with a metal bar.

Federal hate crime laws exist, but in Utah only non-serious assaults can be classified as hate crimes.

Police say Mr Covington's mental health issues complicate the situation.

This story contains an image that some readers might find disturbing.
A Salt Lake County police log said the suspect walked into the Lopez Tires mechanics' garage in Salt Lake City on 27 November with a metal pipe. He declared he was going to kill someone before attacking.

The family told the Salt Lake Tribune that Mr Covington had been shouting slurs before the attack, saying "I hate Mexicans" and asking if the Lopez's were "part of the Mexican Mafia" prison gang.

He hit Luis first, knocking him unconscious, the family said. When Jose tried to protect his son, he was hit as well.

Luis remains in hospital recovering from serious injuries.

On a GoFundMe page to raise money for the family's medical bills, Jose Lopez's daughter Veronica wrote that doctors had to operate on her brother, using a titanium plate to hold his "shattered" face together.

Her father had eight stitches in his arm and bruising to his back, she added.

According to county records, Mr Covington faces eight charges, including two felony counts of aggravated assault on top of drug and weapon charges.

But under a much-debated Utah state law, only misdemeanour-level crimes can be charged as hate crimes, not more serious felony offences.

"Whether this was a hate crime or not is not even an issue for me to bring to the table - I don't have a statute that allows me to do it," Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill told the BBC.

"The state has abdicated its responsibility for the last 20 years - that's why there's never been a hate crime prosecuted at the state level."

County Police Detective Greg Wilking told the Tribune it appears Mr Covington had "some mental health issues" and had taken drugs before the assault.

"We don't want to ignore a hate crime if it's a hate crime, but we don't want to make it a hate crime if there's not that aspect of it," the detective said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46430835
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 04:41 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
I honestly think Trump's overplaying his response to Pres. Bush's death because his previous behavior around the death of Sen. McCain really made him look bad.
Don't be silly. McCain was a conniving back-stabber.

Bush Sr. deserves respect.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 04:42 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
On the contrary. 60% of the country cares deeply. That is why he lost the House. And why he's going to be the subject of unending investigations from jan. 20 on.
Trump has the power to have liberals investigated. He'll probably start using it if they don't stop their witch hunts against him.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 04:43 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
That's a non sequitur. However the conservatives in SCOTUS consistently put ideology above justice. They're the problem not the solution.
Wrong. It is the liberal justices who ignore the Constitution. Conservative justices uphold the Constitution.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 04:46 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
'struth. Gore v bush.
A ruling that stopped the Democrats from plunging the nation into a constitutional crisis by continuing their failed efforts to cheat their way into the White House.

It didn't really have much to do with the Constitution.

MontereyJack wrote:
Heller.
A ruling where conservative justices upheld the Constitution.

MontereyJack wrote:
Citizens united.
A ruling where conservative justices upheld the Constitution.

MontereyJack wrote:
gutting the voting rights act. for starters.
The Voting Rights Act is not part of the Constitution, and was never intended to allow Democrats to cheat in elections.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 04:47 am
@Real Music,
Washington Post wrote:
Trump’s latest tweets cross clear lines, experts say:
Obstruction of justice and witness tampering.
That's a stretch to begin with. But the Democrats have already set a precedent that it is OK for presidents to commit witness tampering -- when they said that it was OK for Bill Clinton to do it -- so it's no big deal in any case.
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hightor
 
  4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 06:08 am
Why Does Alex Acosta Still Have a Job?

Quote:

It is the perverse good fortune of Alexander Acosta, Donald Trump’s secretary of labor, to be part of an administration so spectacularly corrupt that it’s simply impossible to give all its scandals the attention they deserve.

(...)

What’s shocking is not just the lurid details and human devastation of [Epstein's] alleged crimes, but the way he was able to use his money to escape serious consequences, thanks in part to Acosta, then Miami’s top federal prosecutor. For reasons that are not entirely clear, Acosta took extraordinary measures to let Epstein — and, crucially, other unnamed people — off the hook.

(...)

We don’t know, but one of Epstein’s victims, Virginia Roberts, told The Herald that Epstein didn’t just abuse her himself, he also “lent” her out to “politicians and academics and royalty.” She claimed in a 2015 affidavit that she’d had sex with both Prince Andrew of Britain — she included a photograph of them together — and with one of Epstein’s attorneys, Alan Dershowitz, now best known for his public defenses of Trump. (Dershowitz has said Roberts lied to try to extract money from wealthy men.)

Had the federal case gone forward, it could have shed an embarrassing spotlight on Epstein’s many famous associates, including Bill Clinton, a frequent passenger on Epstein’s private plane, nicknamed the “Lolita Express.”

During the 2016 presidential campaign, some pundits expected Trump to bring up Clinton’s relationship with Epstein. But after predicting in early 2015 that Epstein would cause Bill Clinton “a lot of problems,” Trump rarely if ever mentioned it again. Perhaps that’s because Trump also counted Epstein as a friend, once affectionately describing him as a man who “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

NYT
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revelette1
 
  4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 08:00 am
Trump's mafia like pledges of loyalty applies to spouses of his staff members as well.

Quote:
President Trump's son Eric Trump on Monday accused George Conway of showing "utter disrespect" towards White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, his wife.

"Of all the ugliness in politics, the utter disrespect George Conway shows toward his wife, her career, place of work, and everything she has fought SO hard to achieve, might top them all," Trump tweeted.

Conway has been publicly criticizing Trump, his wife's boss, for months. On Monday, he suggested in a tweet that Trump was tampering with witnesses in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. Conway, a lawyer, has organized a group with the goal of urging fellow conservative lawyers to speak out against the Trump administration's actions.

Kellyanne Conway, on the other hand, is one of the administration's most ardent and public supporters, speaking in support of the president's actions on a weekly basis. She regularly makes the rounds on cable news networks defending the president.

Trump has pushed back against George's criticism, telling reporters that he is only speaking out to "get publicity for himself."

Kellyanne Conway last month poked fun at the media's coverage of her husband by making her Twitter bio, "The 'Kellyanne Conway' in 'Kellyanne Conway's Husband'."

Conway in a Washington Post profile published over the summer called her husband's repeated criticisms of her boss "disrespectful."

"I think it's disrespectful," she said. "I think it disrespects his wife."

She then walked back her comments by saying that "people see it that way."
In the profile, she also said that "part of" her husband feels she "chose" Trump over him.

"I feel there's a part of him that thinks I chose Donald Trump over him,"
Kellyanne told the Post. "Which is ridiculous. One is my work and one is my marriage."


THE HILL
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Tue 4 Dec, 2018 09:08 am
@oralloy,
All clearly cases where the uber conservative Scalia court battered the Constitution beyond recognition.
 

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