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oralloy
 
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Tue 23 Oct, 2018 09:30 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
The Saudi "royals" are Jewish usurpers. This is not a theory.
Nazis are bad. Don't be a Nazi.
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Setanta
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 12:00 am
I love it when the conservative operatives blame the Democrats for an investigation started in the Republican-controlled Congress and headed for a well-respected, life-long Republican. Logic need not apply.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 01:11 am
Can't say I'm surprised.

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The wife of US white nationalist Richard Spencer has accused him of being "physically, verbally and emotionally abusive", US media report.

In papers filing for divorce, Nina Koupriianova said on one occasion in 2011 Mr Spencer dragged her down the stairs, resulting in bruises.

She said that in 2014 he again "attacked" her when she was four-months pregnant.

In comments to the Associated Press, Mr Spencer denied being an abusive person.

Richard Spencer is a figurehead for US far-right groups and popularised the term "alternative right".

Ms Koupriianova's divorce papers were filed in a Montana Court in June but were first reported by Buzzfeed News on Tuesday.

According to the report, Ms Koupriianova's lawyers said she had been "reluctant to call police or seek an order of protection for fear of further reprisal".

"Much of the abuse has occurred in the presence of the parties' children," the court documents said.

Speaking to the Associated Press news agency on Tuesday, Mr Spencer said he was "not an abusive person" and that his wife was "never in a dangerous situation".

Richard Spencer first rose to prominence when he led chants of "Hail Trump" to a Nazi-saluting group in Washington after the US president's election victory.

He was also one of the organisers of a far-right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last year that left one woman dead.

Facebook banned him from its platform earlier this year.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45960094
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Blickers
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 01:57 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
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That is what happens when the Democrats hijack an issue and transform it into a witch-hunt against people who disagree with them. What might have been an investigation into a legitimate problem becomes a matter of rank partisanship.
Well somebody ought to investigate something about why Trump's national security advisor was talking to the Russian ambassador on the phone about how Trump will be getting rid of the anti-Russian sanctions as soon as he takes office.

Or that another "national security advisor", Carter Page, was best buddies with a group of Russians who turned out to be a Kremlin spy ring and got busted, (Page, later Trump's national security advisor, had no idea his friends were all spies).

Or why Trump put his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, in charge of foreign policy endeavors and reading all the intel info at meetings despite meeting with Kremlin connected bankers in search of a loan for one of his real estate buildings. And then lied to the FBI about it.

Or why the White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon, was openly pro-Putin in his Breitbart website.

Or why his Commerce Secretary comes straight to Trump's Cabinet despite managing a bank in Cyprus which is the Russian oligarchs' favorite bank to launder money through.

And why Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager, was paid to manage Trump's campaign not by Trump, not by the Republican Party, but by a Russian oligarch. And that's only scratching the surface. The entire Trump operation is infested with Russians, and somebody damned well has to do something about it.
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Blickers
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 01:59 am
@oralloy,
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The absence of proof that the dossier is reliable, is proof that it is unreliable.
But there is proof the dossier is reliable, because several things the dossier says have turned out to be true. And nothing the dossier said has been shown to be untrue. Therefore, the dossier is a reliable source to base a warrant on.
Olivier5
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 02:46 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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America has a micropenis?

At least we have one.

Why, thanks for confirming...
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hightor
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 03:17 am
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Trump said that Saudi Arabia has ordered $450 billion from U.S. companies, including $110 billion in military contracts, representing over a million jobs.

Orders on that scale don’t exist. There is no data behind the $450 billion, and the $110 billion is a blend of smaller deals in progress, old offers that have not come through, and speculative discussions that have yet to move forward.

Trump’s claims about jobs ignores the long runway between signed agreements and actual delivery and payment. He treats spending that could play out over a decade as if it were spent in one year. More importantly, if the $450 billion in orders is a mirage, the 1 million jobs is equally without substance.

politifact

Any of you patriots see anything wrong with Trump tapping our nation's financial resources on economically useless "tax cuts" to attract votes — you know, to bribe the electorate?

I didn't think so.
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hightor
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 04:41 am
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You're not stooping to that lowdown emotional crap are you Hi?

Hardly an emotional question, I'd just like to know who thinks offering tax cuts in return for votes is a good economic move while the debt spiral ever upward. Do you approve of bribing the electorate with promises of lower taxes?
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Any of you nevertrumpers [it's a little late for that] want to talk about Saudi donations to the bogus Clinton foundation?

Personally, I don't give a damn about the moribund Clinton Foundation. I don't know why people still think it's so fascinating.
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Hell, even sooty-sweet Obama had to cosy up to the Saudis...

Duh...yeah, world leaders compromise core beliefs with astounding frequency because, as powerful as they are, they don't have nearly as much control over events as people believe. The lawsuit was a poison pill for the professional statecraft community:
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Obama's concern, officials say, thus goes well beyond the Saudis; he's worried that the bill erodes the sovereign immunity principle and could lead other countries to allow the U.S. to be sued over its actions abroad.

"To pass a piece of legislation that would open up our diplomats and our service members and even American businesses to potential lawsuits in courts all around the world is foolish," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said in a recent press briefing.

In any case, the events surrounding Khashoggi's killing represent a completely different situation from the mock concern you evince over the incident. It's a safe bet that the Saudis much prefer Trump to Obama.
Builder
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 04:58 am
@hightor,
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Do you approve of bribing the electorate with promises of lower taxes?


It's basically all they've got, at times. The federal reserve is on notice, so wall street will be shaky, and the markets reflect that. The US economy is not in the hands of the president, and you know it, so your question is purely emotive, and utter bullshit, in the broader scheme of things.

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Personally, I don't give a damn about the moribund Clinton Foundation. I don't know why people still think it's so fascinating.


I'm sure you'd rather it died a natural death, but there it is; facts and figures showing how the destroyer of the DNC was in bed with anyone who threw money at her. Move along, folks, nothing to see here but lies, deception, and criminality, masquerading as a potential world leader.


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Duh...yeah, world leaders compromise core beliefs with astounding frequency because.......


But not this particular world leader, right Hi?

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It's a safe bet that the Saudis much prefer Trump to Obama.


Obama's reticence was smoke and mirrors. His support for their attack on Syria and Yemen isn't a secret, Hi, and you know it.
hightor
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 05:02 am
@Builder,
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But not this particular world leader, right Hi?

Who are you referring to?
Olivier5
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 05:08 am
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You kids are gettin' lazier every time I drop in here for a squiz.

That's because we're all Jews.
Builder
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 05:13 am
@hightor,
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Who are you referring to?


Playing dumb now, are we Hi?

It's a good look. No, really it is.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 05:14 am
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Evangelical women helped Trump get elected. Now some of them are turning against him and his candidates - and could sway the outcome in key elections in November.

Rebecca Olsen, 21, a Southern Baptist who dresses conservatively in classic-red lipstick and black, ballet-style flats, was "gung-ho" for Trump in 2016.

She had concerns about the way he treated women, she says, but she brushed them aside.

"At the time I let a lot of things slip," she says. "And upon the past two years of reflection, I regret being so much in favour of him."

Since then the treatment of women has become a core issue for her and for others across the US. The MeToo movement brought the subject of sexual harassment onto centre stage last year, with a similar phenomenon, the ChurchToo movement, unfolding within the Southern Baptist community.

The hearing of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh opened up wrenching discussions about sexual assault.

A life-long Republican who was raised in Atlanta, Olsen says she has turned against the president and his endorsement of candidates are a mark against them.

"I think we should be doing our best to empower women," she says, explaining why she's disillusioned with Trump. "I think the president should be doing that as well."

She describes the demeaning way that he talks about women and says: "I question myself: 'Rebecca, how could you be so in favour of this man?'"

Her disappointment with the president and her rejection of his candidates is even more striking because of the backdrop.

She's standing outside a restaurant that's filled with her classmates from Liberty University, the nation's biggest evangelical college, in Lynchburg, a town known as the "buckle in the bible belt".

As a Trump critic, Olsen's in the minority. Students here voted overwhelmingly for Trump and are campaigning for his candidates, a roster that includes Corey Stewart, a Republican who's campaigning for the US senate in Virginia and is, as the New York Times reports, supported by white nationalists.

Liberty University is run by Jerry Falwell Jr, the son of the nation's most famous evangelical. Falwell brags about his friendship with the president and lauds his accomplishments in office, telling me: "He's done more for evangelicals than any previous Republican administration."

But despite the massive support for Trump in Lynchburg, Olsen's not alone in her views.

Another student, Rebecca Pickard, shows me around the university on a Saturday afternoon, pointing to a Noah's Ark in a children's play area, and says that even in this conservative Christian world, it's OK to reject the president.

"It's not something I feel self-conscious about," she says.

Olsen and Pickard belong to a tiny sliver of this Christian world - white evangelical women who do not like Trump. But their numbers are growing incrementally.

Support for the president among women in their demographic group dropped from 73% to 67% from 2017 to 2018, according to Pew Research Center (in data they have yet to publish). Support for the president among white evangelical men dropped too, from 84-79%.

The decline in the president's approval ratings among evangelical women is not huge, yet many of these women are determined to express their views at the ballot box.

They don't want to vote for Trump candidates in states like Virginia, Georgia and Texas, they say. Although small in numbers, these women could change the outcome in congressional districts where candidates are running neck and neck.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45956033

Lots more at link.
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 05:25 am
@Builder,
Jerry Lewis was indeed Jewish. During his teen years he punched an antisemitic schoolmaster in the face after the adult had made a nasty joke. David against Goliath style. He was expelled from the school but never regretted it.
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hightor
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 05:57 am
@Builder,
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Playing dumb now, are we Hi?

You mentioned Clinton, Obama, and Trump — I don't know who you're referring to, especially since I suggested that all world leaders compromise themselves quite frequently. Goes with the territory.
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The US economy is not in the hands of the president, and you know it...

No, I don't know that. Irresponsible tax cuts can lead to a host of economic problems. No, the guy doesn't control the economy but the executive can influence the markets, as Trump has.
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..so your question is purely emotive, and utter bullshit, in the broader scheme of things.

I don't get where you're picking up all this "emotive" content. I think that promising targeted tax cuts to specific voters while campaigning for their votes while the national deficit is out of control seems a bit desperate.

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revelette1
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 06:17 am
How the migrant caravan became so big and why it's growing
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 09:27 am
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U.S. Intercepts 'Suspicious Packages' Addressed To Clinton And Obama
October 24, 20189:42 AM ET
BILL CHAPPELL

The Secret Service says the packages addressed to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama, seen here in 2016, "were immediately identified during routine mail screening procedures as potential explosive devices."

The Secret Service said Wednesday that it has intercepted two suspicious packages that were addressed to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Westchester County, N.Y., and former President Barack Obama in Washington, D.C.

On Monday, an explosive device was found at the home of billionaire George Soros — a frequent contributor to Democratic and progressive causes.

The packages addressed to Clinton and Obama "were immediately identified during routine mail screening procedures as potential explosive devices and were appropriately handled as such," the Secret Service said in a statement Wednesday. "The protectees did not receive the packages nor were they at risk of receiving them."
revelette1
 
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Wed 24 Oct, 2018 10:02 am
@Olivier5,
Also, CNN, addressed to John Brennan and there is a suspicious package sent to Debbie Wasserman's Miami office as well.

https://www.cnn.com/
 

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