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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 01:43 pm
@ehBeth,
At least, Trump' eldest son takes tension over the sexual assault allegations against Kavanaugh very serious: he thinks "it’s scary".

When asked in an interview with DailyMailTV whether he was more worried about his sons or daughters, he said: "Right now, I’d say my sons."

Mail online: EXCLUSIVE: Donald Trump Jr. tells DailyMailTV in first-ever joint interview with Kimberly Guilfoyle that sexual assault claims make him more scared for his SONS than his daughters following he-said she-said Kavanaugh controversy
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mysteryman841
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:04 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
In the US, only 52 women have ever held a Senate seat.
34 have been Democrats and 18 have been Republicans.

In the House (as of 2017), 84 seats are held by women.
62 are Democrats and 22 have been Republicans

How do you account for this difference?



Simple, they didn't win elections.
If you don't run, you cant win.
If the voters dont like you, you dont win.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:16 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
necessary element in the coverup strategy.

There is nothing to cover up. You are trying to make it look like it. All manufactured bullshit much like Mueller's investigation. But it did let everyone know the Left is so dishonest and so desperate they do not care what they do. Those people should be kept as far away possible from any power.
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mysteryman841
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:21 pm
This is interesting...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219281215.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409153-cotton-says-feinstein-will-be-investigated-over-leaked-ford-letter

It seems that Difi is going to be investigated for leaking the letter.
If it was supposed to remain confidential, and only Dr Ford and Difi knew of its existence, how did it get out?

Also, the DC Bar is going to investigated Dr Fords lawyers for apparently not telling her that the committee would come to her.
That apparently is an ethical violation.

Lets see what happens.
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mysteryman841
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:28 pm
There are many things I find suspect about the entire Kavanaugh affair, but there is one that makes me go hmmm.

Who is paying her?
She claims nobody is paying her, but why has she raised almost $1,000,000 from various crowd sourcing accounts?
What is that money for?
Her lawyers are working pro bono, so she doesn't have to pay them.
Other than travel expenses, she doesn't have expenses related to this entire fiasco, at least not that I know of.
i think that all of those accounts should be frozen until this entire mess is over with, because it looks like the dems are using them as a way to pay her and hide it.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:30 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DobbiWGU4AAXoJO.jpg
Surprised
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1046765354251419649/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AWhatfingerNews&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatfinger.com%2F
maporsche
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:37 pm
@mysteryman841,
Do you have any, I don't know, evidence that what you say here is true? News reports? Anything?

This is why people are having a hard time understanding where the real MM went...
glitterbag
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 02:56 pm
@mysteryman841,
mysteryman841 wrote:

There are many things I find suspect about the entire Kavanaugh affair, but there is one that makes me go hmmm.

Who is paying her?
She claims nobody is paying her, but why has she raised almost $1,000,000 from various crowd sourcing accounts?
What is that money for?
Her lawyers are working pro bono, so she doesn't have to pay them.
Other than travel expenses, she doesn't have expenses related to this entire fiasco, at least not that I know of.
i think that all of those accounts should be frozen until this entire mess is over with, because it looks like the dems are using them as a way to pay her and hide it.





Apparently her neighbors, family and friends have contributed to GoFundMe accounts to help pay for the protection details she has to have and the expense of being in hiding because of the death threats. In fact, I’ll bet many people are willing to contribute to GoFundMe to protect her and her family from zealots.

It interesting that you would lobby to have her access to funds frozen, you do know her life is in danger don’t you? Unless you think it’s entirely fair to devastate her life because she was audacious enough to actually recount a sexual assault, so she is inviting violence. Over the years on this forum, people have shared stories of assault (men and women) but those threads are quickly taken over by angry people who proclaim everyone is making up the stories.

This is why very few women and even fewer men report assaults or outrageous behaviour.........it’s sometimes better to shut up than to invite additional harassment or persecution. Not many people want to be victimized twice.
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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 03:05 pm
@coldjoint,
Michael steele the black ex- chair of the rnc told the gop they had nothing for blacks. They still dont. You guys had years to change but you didnt and people nnoticed which is why they diss kanye.
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mysteryman841
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 03:17 pm
@maporsche,
Look at the GoFundMe accounts yourself and see the totals.

As for the rest, it was strictly my opinion, nothing more.
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mysteryman841
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 03:20 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
[Do you have any, I don't know, evidence that what you say here is true? News reports? Anything?/quote]

Does this count as evidence?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/gofundme-campaigns-support-ford-raise-700k/story?id=58147904
glitterbag
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 03:36 pm
@mysteryman841,
What do YOU this is evidence of??? No one is saying there haven't been Gofundme campaigns....once again, to help pay for her security detail (probably for her immediate family) and to pay for the extraoridinary expense building up while she remains in hiding.

I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks that amount of money will ever compensate for having her life turned upside down.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 03:52 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
for having her life turned upside down.

She should sue Feinstien and the DNC. They did it.
glitterbag
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 04:04 pm
@coldjoint,
That's brilliant, as usual.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 1 Oct, 2018 04:06 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
That's brilliant, as usual.

It is true also.
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blatham
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 04:21 pm
@mysteryman841,
Purposefully or not, you've avoided the question as to why there is so much difference between the two parties in how many women run for office or get elected. You have any clues on that one?
blatham
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 04:30 pm
Newsweek reported yesterday that former Justice Anthony Kennedy that democracy is in danger amid the "toxic fight" to confirm Kavanaugh.
Quote:
James Fallows
‏verified account
@JamesFallows
Weigh his warning about democracy, while remembering it comes from person who cast 5th vote in:
-Bush v Gore;
-Citizens United;
-Heller (gun control);
-Shelby County (voting rights act).
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 04:33 pm
Quote:
The Reason For The Public Torture Of Brett Kavanaugh


Quote:
In her essay for The Federalist, “Why The Senate’s Ritual Defamation Of Brett Kavanaugh Threatens Every American,” Ms. Morabito analyzes how the eight steps in ritual defamation have been applied to Judge Brett Kavanaugh and points out how the radical Left has followed the ritual posited by Laird Wilcox to the upmost detail.

For the purposes of clarity here are the eight steps of ritual defamation as posited by Wilcox:

1. In a ritual defamation the victim must have violated a particular taboo in some way, usually by expressing or identifying with a forbidden attitude, opinion or belief. It is not necessary that he "do" anything about it or undertake any particular course of action, only that he engage in some form of communication or expression.

2. The method of attack in a ritual defamation is to assail the character of the victim, and never to offer more than a perfunctory challenge to the particular attitudes, opinions or beliefs expressed or implied. Character assassination is its primary tool.

3. An important rule in ritual defamation is to avoid engaging in any kind of debate over the truthfulness or reasonableness of what has been expressed, only condemn it. To debate opens the issue up for examination and discussion of its merits, and to consider the evidence that may support it, which is just what the ritual defamer is trying to avoid. The primary goal of a ritual defamation is censorship and repression.

4. The victim is often somebody in the public eye - someone who is vulnerable to public opinion - although perhaps in a very modest way. It could be a schoolteacher, writer, businessman, minor official, or merely an outspoken citizen. Visibility enhances vulnerability to ritual defamation.

5. An attempt, often successful, is made to involve others in the defamation. In the case of a public official, other public officials will be urged to denounce the offender. In the case of a student, other students will be called upon, and so on.

6. In order for a ritual defamation to be effective, the victim must be dehumanized to the extent that he becomes identical with the offending attitude, opinion or belief, and in a manner which distorts it to the point where it appears at its most extreme. For example, a victim who is defamed as a "subversive" will be identified with the worst images of subversion, such as espionage, terrorism or treason. A victim defamed as a "pervert" will be identified with the worst images of perversion, including child molestation and rape. A victim defamed as a "racist" or "anti-Semitic" will be identified with the worst images of racism or anti-Semitism, such as lynchings or gas chambers.

7.Also to be successful, a ritual defamation must bring pressure and humiliation on the victim from every quarter, including family and friends. If the victim has school children, they may be taunted and ridiculed as a consequence of adverse publicity. If they are employed, they may be fired from their job. If the victim belongs to clubs or associations, other members may be urged to expel them.

8. Any explanation the victim may offer, including the claim of being misunderstood, is considered irrelevant. To claim truth as a defense for a politically incorrect value, opinion or belief is interpreted as defiance and only compounds the problem. Ritual defamation is often not necessarily an issue of being wrong or incorrect but rather of "insensitivity" and failing to observe social taboos.

As Stella Morabito observed correctly, “In the smearing of Kavanaugh we can identify all of these elements of ritual defamation.”

Recognizing that Brett Kavanaugh is the object of a ritual defamation campaign and supporting him through it to the successful confirmation of his nomination to the Supreme Court is important and recognizing future ritual defamation campaigns is also important for the purposes of self-defense, as Stella Morabito pointed out in her article for The Federalist.

http://www.conservativehq.com/article/28839-reason-public-torture-brett-kavanaugh
blatham
 
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Mon 1 Oct, 2018 04:33 pm
If you want to see something really quite creepy, here are real clips from Mark Judge's deleted Youtube channel
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