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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
camlok
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:33 pm
@ehBeth,
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They see the development of the Chinese connections/power in Africa and South America and express a lot of concern.


Who are FSO folks and why should anyone care that China is investing in other countries, without illegally invading anyone?

Where is your concern, where has your concern been for the last whatever number of years regarding the myriad illegal invasions and the slaughter of tens of millions by the highly predatory USA?
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:19 am
@camlok,
Tibet, caml;ocki, Tibet.
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Olivier5
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 02:39 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
You're quite narrow-minded, but then you are a Saxon.
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hightor
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:04 am
@gungasnake,
How about providing a citation of the original source? Just re-posting a screed which is available on numerous right-wing conspiracy sites doesn't enhance its credibility.
Blickers
 
  1  
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:22 am
@Olivier5,
Quote Olivier to Finn:
Quote:
You're quite narrow-minded, but then you are a Saxon.

Possibly, but my guess is that he is a Celt. He comes from Long Island, where a lot of the Irish immigrant families to New York earlier in the 20th Century eventually moved, and a lot of Irish names begin with Finn, (Finnigan, Finnerty, etc).
Glennn
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:25 am
@hightor,
Well, let's start here:

". . . discovers that the Hildabeast ran the State Department on a unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.

He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law
."
______________________________________________________

Is it your position that this isn't true?
Blickers
 
  1  
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:27 am
@camlok,
Quote camlok:
Quote:
where has your concern been for the last whatever number of years regarding the myriad illegal invasions and the slaughter of tens of millions by the highly predatory USA?

If you say so.

Let's compare the US' human rights record to the country you come from.

By the way, for the fifth time, what country do you come from?
camlok
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:37 am
@MontereyJack,
Tibet, MJ, compared to Vietnam, Iraq, more than twice, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, China, many times, Taiwan, Japan, Guatemala, Cuba, Hawaii, the Philippines, Honduras, Dominican Republic, Syria, Ukraine, Russia, Cambodia, Laos, Somalia, Italy, Greece, the south of Korea, Germany, Iran, Albania, Guyana, Zaire, Chile, ... .

What the hell is wrong with you people's brains? You have no connection to reality whatsoever.

China is investing in countries like good global citizens are supposed to do. No invasions, no hundreds of thousands slaughtered, no planned genocides that murder half a million Iraqi children, some three million Iraqis in total.

What is wrong with you? You operate on the flimsiest of rank US propaganda.
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camlok
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:40 am
@Builder,
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Gossip on social media is that Ah McCain is warming a berth at Gitmo.


Gee, warm hearted people are disturbed by Builder comments but these same kind people don't care that McCain took active part in one of the most heinous series of war crimes in the 20th century. He defended those and his war crimes until his death,

What the hell is wrong with you people?
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Blickers
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:43 am
@Glennn,
Quote Glenn:
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discovers that the Hildabeast ran the State Department on a unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.

How horrible. Oh, what's this?

Trump’s clear double standard between Hillary Clinton’s emails and his own cell phones
By Aaron Blake, Senior reporter
May 22


...At one point, Trump said he was “sure” that China had hacked her server and that the whole thing was “putting all of America and our citizens in danger -- great danger.” He said at another point, "We can’t hand over our government to someone whose deepest, darkest secrets may be in the hands of our enemies.”

You'd think a guy who felt so strongly about that would go above and beyond to protect his personal communications once he became president. But apparently you'd be wrong.

Politico is reporting that Trump has eschewed the normal security procedures when it comes to his personal cellphones. He has at least two — one for making calls and one for Twitter — but the call-capable phone has a camera and a microphone, which was against protocol in the Obama administration because those things could be used to monitor a president's activities and movements. As for the Twitter phone, Trump reportedly refuses to swap it out and has gone as many as five months without having it checked by security experts, despite phones being checked every 30 days during the Obama administration.

Trump's reasoning for resisting the regular security sweep? It's “too inconvenient,” one official said.

....“Clinton’s home email server that she lied to the American people about was a profound national security risk,” Trump wrote in one Facebook post. “Hillary Clinton has bad judgment and is unfit to serve as President.”...

.... The possibility that foreign actors could gain access and use it against Trump and the United States. Trump seemed very bothered by that possibility as a candidate; he seems far less bothered as president — almost as though he wasn't really that concerned in the first place. And this is hardly the first time he has seemed cavalier about protecting America's secrets; there was, of course, that time he blurted out classified information in a meeting with Russian officials.

A White House aide insisted to Politico that technological advances have made for more secure devices and perhaps necessitate less procedural security. But Trump went big on the importance of taking every precaution as a candidate. Matching the Obama administration's protocols would seem a very basic way to avoid any possibility of the “great danger” Trump warned about as a candidate.
Source

Of course, with all of his appointees up to their neck in contacts to Russia and then lying about them to the FBI and the Senate, it's laughable to think Trump's people actually cared about foreign countries finding out what we are up to. All Russia has to do is ask Trump what he's up to, and he'll tell them.
Glennn
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:52 am
@Blickers,
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How horrible.

What does Trump have to do with Clinton's gross negligence and violation of the law?

So let's start over.

". . . discovers that the Hildabeast ran the State Department on a unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.

He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law
."
______________________________________________________

Is it your position that this isn't true?
Blickers
 
  4  
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 09:57 am
@Glennn,
Quote Glenn:
Quote:
What does Trump have to do with Clinton's gross negligence and violation of the law?
So let's start over.

No, YOU start over. The name of this thread is "monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events". Gunga came up with the whole Email thing to bring attention away from Trump and onto Hillary. I just came up with the fact that Trump is just as careless with national security rules as Hillary was, if not more so.

You have had thread after thread dealing with Hillary's Emails. This thread is about Trump, and you are trying to shift focus. I'm re-focusing this thread back on its original purpose.
Glennn
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:00 am
@Blickers,
Well, as long as you're not denying what a ****-up Clinton was, continue on . . .
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engineer
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:02 am
@Glennn,
Not that it will make a difference to you, but for anyone out there who might be confused, Clinton ran the State Department from her State Department email account. She had a personal account where she did things campaign things as well as personal things like her daily prayer group. The problem was there was some crossover when aides used the wrong server. Has this been investigated? Yes. Has it been investigated multiple times? Yes. Why is Trump bringing it up yet again? Good question.
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Blickers
 
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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:05 am
@Glennn,
And while you're on the subject of national security and Trump, what about this piece from the Washington Post and elsewhere:
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there was, of course, that time he [Trump] blurted out classified information in a meeting with Russian officials.

That was a secret that Israel found out about and gave to the US to help us, and Trump had his nose so far up the Russian officials' posterior he gave it right to them. In so doing, he exposed which ally gave us this information, an ally that Russia hates.

Trump just sold Israel right out to please his Kremlin masters. And you are trying to make the conversation about Hillary's Emails again. Nice try.
 

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