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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Olivier5
 
  2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 05:07 am
@Lash,
It's okay to let a joke hurt your feelings as long as you pretend to be a bernite.
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 05:57 am
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32321/house-introduces-measure-officially-sanction-rep-emily-zanotti
Lash
 
  -3  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 06:04 am
@Olivier5,
It didn’t hurt my feelings.

If I was gay, though, and I watched a notable comedian get national applause and support for trashing being gay, I’d probably be pissed.

Just keeping up with the ever-changing rules.

To be a Dem
1. Crucify everybody for doing what I do.
2. **** poor people.
3. Lie, obfuscate.
4. Expect support for nothing.

S’ really working brilliantly! Hahaha.
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 06:17 am
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36343663_10155966028592886_6944955688065957888_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c2073b39ef53c67c3f555604912dd54d&oe=5BE3EBDA
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 06:29 am
New face of the demoKKKrat party

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36232262_1665378193570645_8570729250598944768_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=754062c6cbabab6a095b32c5db9134ec&oe=5B9DDC95
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revelette1
 
  2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:24 am
@Lash,
I assume a gay person somewhere out there watched that episode, was there any outcry from anyone in the gay community?
revelette1
 
  2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:27 am
Quote:
Federal judge halts splitting of migrant families at border

WASHINGTON — A federal judge in California issued a nationwide injunction late Tuesday temporarily stopping the Trump administration from separating children from their parents at the border and ordered that all families already separated be reunited within 30 days.


NYT
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Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:39 am
News commentators are being forced to admit that the fight for the soul of what used to be the democrat party is being won by progressives.

The right is embracing Trump now, and the Ds are massing left.

The center is dead.

So, let’s have at it.
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Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:45 am
@revelette1,
Was there an outcry when the Germans were shipping ‘undesirables’ to concentration camps?
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:48 am
@Lash,
You're using homophobia as an excuse and it sounds like you don't really know what it is.

Homophobia is an attack on gay people just for being gay. It's not about attacking hypocrisy in homophobes themselves. Putin's Russia is notoriously anti LGBT. An anti hate charity supported by FIFA tried to have safe space for LGBT fans to watch the match in St Petersburg. The Russians closed it down the day before the matches commenced. The LGBT community is often attacked and subject to arbitrary arrest.

It's not remotely homophobic to point out that despite this there's a strong homoerotic element to Putin and his publicity photographs. Neither is it homophobic to point out the deferential, supine way Trump addresses Putin compared to other world leaders.

If you cared about LGBT rights half as much as you cared about licking Trump's arse you'd know that, but instead you'd rather parrot Trump's twitter feed.

All you've ended up doing is looking very silly indeed. In future before going on a rant about alleged homophobia you might want to ask some actual gay people what they think, assuming you know any of course.
Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:50 am
@izzythepush,
I’m using homophobia as an excuse for what?

I don’t think rednecks or liberal comedians should mock gay people or use gayness as a putdown. Period.
revelette1
 
  3  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:55 am
Quote:
$16.1M in Political, Taxpayer Spending Found at Trump Properties

Since Donald Trump declared his candidacy for president in late 2015, at least $16.1 million has poured into Trump Organization-managed and branded hotels, golf courses and restaurants from his campaign, Republican organizations, and government agencies. Because Trump’s business empire is overseen by a trust of which he is the sole beneficiary, he profits from these hotel stays, banquet hall rentals and meals.

To arrive at the total, we compiled campaign finance reports from the Federal Election Commission; state government spending gleaned from dozens of state websites and portals; and federal agency expenditure records obtained by the Washington-based transparency organization Property of the People. For this project, Property of the People filed Freedom of Information Act requests with 15 federal agencies and sued four of them to obtain records. (The organization is also attempting to procure comparable records for the Obama era.)

The vast majority of the money — at least $13.5 million, or more than 84 percent of what we tracked — was spent by Trump’s presidential campaign (including on Tag Air, the entity that operates Trump’s personal airplane). Republican Senate and House political committees and campaigns have shelled out at least another $2.1 million at Trump properties. At least $400,000 has been spent by federal, state and local agencies. (For example, the Florida Police Chiefs Association held its summer conference last year at the Trump National Doral Miami.) The state and local tally appears to be a gross undercount because of the agencies’ spotty disclosures and reporting.

The use of taxpayer dollars at Trump hotels is under scrutiny in a closely watched lawsuit in Maryland federal court. The District of Columbia and the state of Maryland sued Trump, citing a venerable anti-corruption provision of the U.S. Constitution known as the Emoluments Clause. It prohibits any financial gift, or emolument, from benefiting a sitting public official, including the president.

The judge in that case, Peter Messitte, is expected to make a final ruling by the end of July. Last month, he allowed the case to proceed, concluding in his opinion that a trip to the Trump International Hotel in Washington by Maine Gov. Paul LePage “rather clearly suggests that Maryland and the District of Columbia may very well feel themselves obliged, i.e., coerced, to patronize the Hotel in order to help them obtain federal favors.” The nonprofit group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, or CREW, which is co-counsel in the Maryland/D.C. case, is also the plaintiff in a separate emoluments suit, which was dismissed; an appeal of that decision is pending.

One of Trump’s lawyers, Sheri Dillon, has argued in the past that paying a hotel bill would never have qualified as an emolument when the Constitution was written; “instead, it would have been thought of as a value-for-value exchange.” (Countered Norman Eisen, chairman of CREW and a former ethics chief under President Obama, “all of these competing interests are openly and nakedly trying to buy off a president…. Obviously, the government spending, whether it’s federal, state, or local, is a domestic emolument.”)

The Trump Organization and the White House did not respond to requests for comment.

There are few ways to avoid the implication that the use of Trump properties is endorsed by the federal government, said Don Fox, the former acting director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, which oversees the government’s ethics rules. One way to avoid the problem, Fox suggested, would be a public statement by Trump along the following lines: “Stay where you need to stay. Basically, do what’s best for the taxpayer.”
But Trump has sent a very different signal with his actions. In his 18 months in office, he has stayed at his hotels or Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach, Fla., estate and club, nearly a third of the time: 161 days and counting.
“Trump appears to be commandeering federal resources in order to maximize revenues at Trump properties, and he does this by visiting properties close to the White House,” said Kathleen Clark, a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis and an expert in legal ethics. “And when he travels to the golf courses in Florida, Virginia and New Jersey, other agencies that are involved in supporting the president end up spending money.”

There are no rules barring federal employees from patronizing Trump properties. Employees can be reimbursed for expenditures according to federal travel regulations, including the cost of a hotel room or the price of a meal. There are limits to these per diems — employees cover any cost beyond the reimbursable amount — but rates at many Trump properties are within that range, reimbursement records show. (The General Services Administration provides a handy calculator to figure out what the per diems are depending on where an employee is traveling and when.)

But even if a stay at a Trump property falls within federal travel regulations, it’s hard to escape the fact that the president is personally benefiting from taxpayer dollars — and that federal employees have a potential incentive to curry favor with their ultimate boss.


A lot more at the source

I just wish we could remind some of these Trump supporters of the President profiting off tax dollars while he slashes, SS, Medicare/Medicaid and benefits for the poor and working families. This is the kind of stuff which is more important to folks rather than some of the noise like insulting Sara Huckabee (however you spell her name) or some other non issue.
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revelette1
 
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Wed 27 Jun, 2018 07:59 am
@Lash,
Rolling Eyes If gay community did not object or at least a couple of gays on twitter or something object to the John Oliver joke, you can be pretty safe to assume, it was not a homophobic joke, but rather a comment on Trump's boot licking Putin's shoes; just put more vulgarly.
Lash
 
  0  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 08:09 am
@revelette1,
You’re so sloppy with your thinking and research.

You don’t even know who said it, so obviously at your writing, didn’t know what was said, which makes your response completely useless.

The response in the gay community was mixed. Many gay people gave COLBERT a pass because they prefer to align with the slur against Trump rather than upholding respect for their community.

I think that’s a big mistake that undercuts their moral authority when rednecks do it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2017/5/2/15515066/stephen-colbert-trump-putin-homophobia-late-show

Colbert was in the middle of a monologue launching various insults at Trump, including some fat shaming, “presidunce,” and “pricktator.” In the course of this, he said, “The only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s cock holster.”

This is a kind of insult that has been used against Trump again and again. From murals of Trump and Putin making out to late night show gags, it’s now pretty popular among progressives to paint the US and Russian presidents as being gay for each other.

But the only way this works as a joke is by demeaning gay people. The underlying implication here is that gay relationships are somehow extra funny — that Trump engaging in sexual acts with Putin is hilarious because it’s gay.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 08:20 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Was there an outcry when the Germans were shipping ‘undesirables’ to concentration camps?
I don't know why you are referring here to those (in German "Asoziale" or "Gemeinschaftsunfähige"). Gay men had registered separately.

https://i.imgur.com/QMGnMVE.jpg

(Lesbians weren't imprisoned and/or send to concentration camps because ... it wasn't noted as criminal in the criminal code)

Lash
 
  -1  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 08:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
ALL of the so-called undesirables, Walter.

Her point was that if nobody complained, it was ok.

It’s not ok, and I don’t need a consensus to know that.
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revelette1
 
  2  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 08:50 am
@Lash,
It seems to me if it was as big deal as you make out, it would have been on the headlines is all I am saying, I read the headlines, I read leftist blogs. I don't watch John Oliver or any of the other ones, I mostly just read straight news and don't really bother with this crap. Call me homophobic.
Lash
 
  -1  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 09:02 am
@revelette1,
Useless response.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 27 Jun, 2018 09:11 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
You're using homophobia as an excuse and it sounds like you don't really know what it is.

And you do? Are you a homosexual? I know you do not care for pre-teen and early teen girls, what is that called? Besides cowardice.
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