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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
firefly
 
  2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 12:41 pm
https://markosun.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/donald.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 12:45 pm
http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Save-the-Children.jpg
http://patriotretort.com/another-media-manipulation-fail/
The blonde lady is "Meathead's" wife.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 12:48 pm
@coldjoint,
Your order comes rather late - I did so already at school, more than 50 years ago.
(Religious education [referring to teaching about religions in general] was part of the curriculum and my major oral examination for the certificate of general qualification for university entrance ["Abitur"/high school diploma].)

You should read the Bible and Thora, compare it with the Koran and Hadith, but as THE scholar you are, you know all that better than I do.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 22 Jun, 2018 12:53 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
You should read the Bible
Ooops, sorry, your Bible doesn't include the OT, you taught me.
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firefly
 
  4  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 12:54 pm
There's nearly a Nixon '74 level of public support for impeaching Trump

Analysis by Z. Byron Wolf, CNN
Fri June 22, 2018

(CNN) — There is a truly remarkable number in the most recent CNN poll, conducted by SSRS and out this morning.

In it, 42% of Americans say President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office.

What makes it remarkable is that he's on par with President Richard Nixon, who 43% of Americans said should be impeached and removed from office in a March 1974 Harris poll. That was after the scale of Watergate came to light, but months before the House started to move against Nixon, who would go on to resign in August 1974 rather than be impeached.

Impeachment requires "treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors," according to the Constitution, which also lists it as the the only thing for which a President can't issue a pardon.

Trump has bragged that he certainly has the power to pardon himself but won't need to use it. Nixon got a pardon from Gerald Ford, the man to whom he gave the keys to the White House.

The 43% supporting Nixon's impeachment in that Harris poll, by the way, is much higher than the 29% who supported impeachment for President Bill Clinton in 1998. Or, for that matter, the similar number who wanted Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush impeached. As CNN's Grace Sparks writes, there's basically "a baseline of pro-impeachment sentiment for a modern president" and Trump far eclipses it...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/impeach-trump-nixon-support-bill-clinton-poll/index.html
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:10 pm
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3858396/pg1

Peter Stzzzruck loses security clearance....
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firefly
 
  3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:13 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgABfw7XcAEGJw2.jpg
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:23 pm
@firefly,
There was just an appearance of citizens with Trump whose children were permanently separated from their parents. Your stupid cartoons do nothing to ease their loss. Citizens matter to Trump, they clearly mean **** to you.
firefly
 
  3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:23 pm
Donald Trump Approval Rating on Immigration Hits All-time Low Amid Family Separation Policy Outrage

By Jason Le Miere

Amid outrage over his administration’s policy of separating families at the southern border, President Donald Trump’s approval rating on immigration has hit an all-time low in CNN polling.

Approval for Trump’s handling of immigration sits at just 35 percent, according to a CNN poll released Monday. That figure represents a 5-point drop from where Americans stood on the issue just one month ago.

The high point for Trump came in March 2017, when the rating stood at 44 percent. Fifty-nine percent now disapprove of Trump’s handling of immigration, and only 28 percent voiced approval for the specific policy of separating families at the border.

Trump’s campaign for president, which began three years ago, was fueled by his hard-line immigration rhetoric. And that talk has been converted into policies since taking office, as he has sought to restrict both legal and illegal immigration.

The announcement last month by his Attorney General Jeff Sessions of a “zero-tolerance” approach at the border, though, has sparked widespread condemnation from across the political spectrum. By criminally prosecuting everyone who crosses the border illegally, rather than continuing with the policy of handling many via civil procedures, adults are being detained while children are housed in cramped detention facilities that have been described as "cages."

All 49 Democratic senators have signed a bill that would outlaw the policy of taking away children. But some Republicans have also joined in the condemnation, as have former first ladies Michelle Obama, Laura Bush, Hillary Clinton and Rosalynn Carter. Even current first lady Melania Trump expressed her opposition to the effects of the policy, even if she parroted her husband’s false claim that it was Democrats who needed to help find a solution.

Donald Trump has repeatedly sought to blame Democrats for the policy, even though it was explicitly introduced by his administration. He has added that it was up to Democrats to come to the table and agree to broad immigration legislation involving funding for his proposed border wall.

But his latest approval rating on the issue suggests his tactics to shift the blame are not holding sway with Americans, which could prove costly in November’s midterm elections. Trump’s overall approval rating has dropped 2 points, to 39 percent, in the same CNN poll...

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-immigration-982506
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:24 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Donald Trump Approval Rating on Immigration Hits All-time Low Amid Family Separation Policy Outrage

It won't change what he is doing, will it?
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firefly
 
  4  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Citizens matter to Trump

Like the citizens he duped and defrauded at Trump University?http://www.carlswebgraphics.com/mice-images/laughing-mouse.gif
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:30 pm
Quote:
Imagine: a government that puts its own citizens first.


Quote:
“They will only see Italy on a postcard”: Italy turns away another migrant ship

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/they-will-only-see-italy-on-a-postcard-italy-turns-away-another-migrant-ship
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:33 pm
@firefly,
Trump's business ventures have little to do with his immigration stance. If you are too stupid to realize that, that it is your problem.
revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:35 pm
Republicans are still working on the more moderate bill, don't know if it will pass the house or senate or if Trump will sign it, but I hope for once there is good news coming from up there at Washington.

Quote:
WASHINGTON - Republican leaders in the U.S. House of Representative still plan to bring an immigration bill up for a vote next week, despite President Donald Trump's urgings on Friday to drop the effort until after November's elections.

"We are bringing that bill to the floor," House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said, referring to legislation that has been postponed because of a lack of support among warring factions of the Republican Party.


CBS NEWS
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:37 pm
Quote:
U.S. Economy Leaving Europe and the Rest of the World Behind

Wonder how that happened? Laughing Laughing Laughing
Quote:
Well, the U.S. has deregulated and cut taxes since the dawn of the Trump presidency, whereas Europe micromanages its economy in the manner preferred by Obama Administration alumni and their domestic apologists. And just last week, a federal court rejected a government effort to prevent the private merger between AT&T and Time-Warner, Inc., whereas Europe places a far heavier thumb upon its market participants.

America accelerating even while the economies of Europe and China begin to decline is something that everyone here should celebrate. It's unfortunate that too many on the political left refuse to join the party, and even hope for it to come to an abrupt end.

Votes go with the wallet.
http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/43-taxes-and-economy/4116-us-economy-leaving-europe-and-the-rest-of-the-world-behind
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:38 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
all these kids separated from their parents and thrown in jail. ACTUALLY thrown in jail, not hypothetically.
Your priorities are wrong.
Is it better to send children to jail alongside their parents?
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firefly
 
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Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Trump's business ventures have little to do with his immigration stance

They both reveal the character (or lack of it) of a man who can't be trusted, and one who feels no compunctions about cruelling treating others like garbage.

And, just as you said to me, I say to you,"If you are too stupid to realize that, that it is your problem."
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:43 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Holding kids alone at military bases was not a reasonable solution.
Past tense? And why isn't it a reasonable solution? Should we just turn them loose in the Mexican desert?

Perhaps Soylent Green is the answer.

Blickers wrote:
Separating young kids from their parents for long periods of time when it is not necessary is child abuse.
The abuse in this case would be by the parents who sent them into the US all by themselves.

And if the parents are abusing their kids, it is reasonable for the government to take custody.

Blickers wrote:
Separating kids from their parents and then deporting the parents is kidnaping.
If that has happened, it was probably a bureaucratic oversight. If it has happened.

It has little to do with holding unaccompanied minors at military bases however.

Blickers wrote:
Seeking asylum is not a crime, it's completely legal. Crossing the border into the country illegally is a relatively minor crime that Trump has decided to crack down on with absolutely no preparation to carry it out in his Administration humanely or with respect for human rights.
Human rights requires sending children to jail alongside their parents?

Blickers wrote:
And yes, he is retreating more and more all the time. It's a big humiliation for Trump, with many more to follow.
At the most, all he has done is stop prosecuting people who come across the border with children. He is not retreating any farther than that, and it is pretty unlikely that he is going to retreat any farther.

And it seems that he took that small step only because Melania persuaded him, not because of all the Democrats' grandstanding and publicity stunts.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:43 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
They both reveal the character

You better stop there. You haven't a leg to stand on.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:45 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
I wish they would ignore his stupid tweets and keep trying to drum up support for a more moderate bill. It would actually help all sides in the mid-terms. If they don't, the immigration situation is going to be up front and center come mid-terms, regardless of the economy.
Tell it to the Democrats. They are the ones who won't compromise.
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