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Blickers
 
  4  
Thu 21 Jun, 2018 09:52 pm
@glitterbag,
You can tell by his constant reversals on Twitter, Trump's just making it up as he goes along. Right now almost all departments are understaffed because he never got his ducks in a row to staff the Administration. Half the people he did staff his Administration with are Russian connected, and most of the others are just bizarre, like Pruitt.

He inherited a good economy, and Trump's espousal of conservative economics pleases business so the stock market got a nice boost when he got elected. But he has no real plan, and we see that now. The wheels are coming off this Administration.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 21 Jun, 2018 10:00 pm
@Blickers,
Quote:
The wheels are coming off this Administration.

He inherited a regulated job killing economy. Small business was on life support. How can you lie so blatantly? The bus is going to run people who think like you over.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 21 Jun, 2018 10:20 pm
Quote:
BOMBSHELL: Girl Never Separated At Border; Mom Paid Smuggler And Abandoned Family, Father Says

The lying MSM.
Quote:
In an explosive interview with the Daily Mail, Denis Javier Varela Hernandez revealed that his wife, Sandra, had always wanted to move to the U.S. to have access to better economic opportunities, but that she left with their daughter without telling anyone. The Mail reports:

Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together...

...Denis, who works as a captain at a port on the coast of Puerto Cortes, explained that things back home were fine but not great, and that his wife was seeking political asylum...

...He said he heard from friends that his wife paid $6,000 for a coyote - a term for someone who smuggles people across the border.

Good research there.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32165/father-says-girl-never-separated-border-mom-paid-ryan-saavedra
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 21 Jun, 2018 11:16 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
We managed to put a man on the moon, yet this defeats the best minds in the the sad excuse of leadership in White House.
What is this supposed defeat? They came up with a perfectly acceptable proposal for dealing with the problem.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 21 Jun, 2018 11:17 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
The wheels are coming off this Administration.
The Trump Administration is doing fine so far as I can see.
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Real Music
 
  3  
Thu 21 Jun, 2018 11:19 pm
Behind Trump’s Plan to Overhaul the Government: Scaling Back the Safety Net.

Quote:
WASHINGTON — President Trump, spurred on by conservatives who want him to slash safety net programs, unveiled on Thursday a plan to overhaul the federal government that could have a profound effect on millions of poor and working-class Americans.

Produced over the last year by Mr. Trump’s budget director, Mick Mulvaney, it would reshuffle social welfare programs in a way that would make them easier to cut, scale back or restructure, according to several administration officials involved in the planning.

Among the most consequential ideas is a proposal to shift the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, a subsistence benefit that provides aid to 42 million poor and working Americans, from the Agriculture Department to a new mega-agency that would have “welfare” in its title — a term Mr. Trump uses as a pejorative catchall for most government benefit programs.

That proposal, which includes an equally ambitious plan to merge the Education and Labor Departments to consolidate work force programs, is not likely to gain the congressional approval needed to make the changes, Mr. Mulvaney’s aides conceded in a phone call with reporters on Thursday.

But the rollout has a bigger long-term purpose, said Margaret Weichert, one of Mr. Mulvaney’s deputies who drafted the proposal. She cast the proposal as a rallying cry for “small government” and said the audacity of the plan proved “why many Americans voted for this president.”

Mr. Trump, for his part, joked on Thursday that the plan was “extraordinarily boring” before TV cameras in the Cabinet Room.

But being boring in an all-too-exciting White House has provided cover for a small army of conservatives and think tank veterans who have been quietly churning out dozens of initiatives like the proposal to reshuffle the cabinet, with the ultimate goal of dismantling the American social welfare system from the inside out.

“Our guys have been in there since the start, grinding it out, and basically no one is noticing it except the smart liberals like Rachel Maddow,” said Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s former adviser, who believes the attack on social programs will be one of Mr. Trump’s most enduring policy achievements.

“It is one of the reasons Trump is at like 97 percent with the base. This is what the base wants,” he said. Referring to the right-wing conspiracy theorist who hosts a popular radio show and the progressive consumer activists allied with Ralph Nader, who became a force in Democratic politics in the 1970s, he added: “Trust me, it’s not Alex Jones that’s driving things. It’s these guys — they are our version of ‘Nader’s Raiders.’”

Philip G. Alston, a New York University professor and the United Nations special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, agreed with Mr. Bannon’s assessment. “My sense is they are making very considerable progress, even though no one is paying much attention,” he said.

But Mr. Alston, author of a recent study on endemic poverty in American cities and the rural South, has a different view of what Mr. Trump’s aides are trying to do. “There is a contempt for the poor that seems to permeate the president’s inner circle that seems very worrying,” he said. “It’s done under the banner of providing opportunity and seeking long-term solutions but it all seems designed to increase misery.”

The president himself is deeply disinterested in the details of policy and can identify only a handful of domestic policy aides, including Mr. Mulvaney, by name, according to current and former staff members. His policy operation during the 2016 campaign was skeletal.

Aides would often watch Mr. Trump’s stump speech on TV for cues on what he wanted to do, search Google for policy proposals that seemed to be the closest fit — then draft white papers or debate talking points from the results.

As president, Mr. Trump would become so bored with the details of domestic policy that aides long ago stopped sharing all but the most top-line specifics of their plans — including the reorganization, according to several people who have worked closely with Mr. Trump.

If Mr. Trump is fuzzy on policy, he is acutely attuned to the perils of offending his base, especially older voters.

A few weeks after Mr. Trump took office, Mr. Mulvaney and a handful of other aides, including Reince Priebus, then the chief of staff, approached the president in the Oval Office to suggest a slate of entitlement changes to reduce costs in the Medicare and Social Security programs.

They were a few minutes into their pitch, according to someone familiar with the meeting, when Mr. Trump waved a dismissive hand and shouted, “No way! What else you got?”

Mr. Trump has, however, given wide latitude to conservatives like the education secretary, Betsy DeVos; the housing secretary, Ben Carson; Attorney General Jeff Sessions; the director of the Domestic Policy Council, Andrew Bremberg; and Mr. Mulvaney, who has emerged as the most provocative and hyperactive of the president’s senior policy advisers.

Mrs. Devos has been especially aggressive, pushing to loosen restrictions on for-profit colleges and enforcement of civil rights laws. She is close to Mr. Mulvaney and supported the proposal to merge her department with the Labor Department, calling it a “bold reform” in a statement.

“Artificial barriers between education and work force programs have existed for far too long,” she added.

Democratic critics saw the new proposal as a threat to both departments, but the proposal also divided conservatives.

Representative Virginia Foxx of North Carolina, the Republican chairwoman of the House education committee who has aggressively pushed a higher education bill that would achieve the same goals, said it was “a recognition of the clear relationship between education policy at every level and the needs of the growing American work force.”

But it was one of the rare proposals that fell flat with conservative supporters who champion Mr. Trump’s agenda to shrink the government, in part because it did not include an accounting of staff members or funding for the reorganization.

Lindsey Burke, the education policy director at the Heritage Foundation, which has steered a slew of Trump policies, said that the proposal risked increasing the federal government’s role in education and the work force, creating more “bloat, control and federal tentacles in local schools and markets.”

For the most part, however, operatives aligned with Heritage, the Federalist Society and the sprawling Koch brothers network have been on the inside making policy.

Benjamin Hobbs, a former employee of Heritage and the Charles Koch Foundation, who received a top policy job at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, was a driving force behind a proposal to raise rents on some of the poorest residents of subsidized housing by as much as 44 percent, according to two administration officials.

In a recent meeting, Mr. Hobbs raised eyebrows by claiming the increases were intended, in part, to persuade unmarried couples to move in with each other to pool rent payments, according to two people in attendance.

Mr. Carson, his boss, broadly supports the idea of reducing dependence, aides said, but was lukewarm on the idea. The backlash to the proposal was so severe that Mr. Carson, speaking this month in Detroit, wavered when asked whether he planned to back legislation needed to achieve the hikes.

Rick Dearborn, another former employee at Heritage, who served as deputy chief of staff for Mr. Trump during his first year in office, steered a total of about 70 Heritage-linked experts into policy roles in the White House and various cabinet departments.

At the same time, Mr. Bannon, who was Mr. Trump’s most influential aide at the dawn of the presidency, enlisted one of Heritage’s founders, Edwin J. Feulner Jr., to help create a list of action items on scaling back social welfare programs days after Mr. Trump’s inauguration.

By early 2017, Heritage produced a government reorganization plan that served as the initial template for Thursday’s announcement. They also drafted a list of 334 policy recommendations, about half of them aimed at domestic programs for poor people or Obama-era regulations protecting low-income consumers.

“Once the transition started, we seized on the opportunity to help out and define the policy agenda of the next administration,” said Paul Winfree, a social policy expert at Heritage, who once worked for the Domestic Policy Council coordinating administration policy of social welfare programs and entitlements.

“Even when many thought Trump had no chance, Heritage researchers and alumni were working hard over on implementation plans,” said Mr. Winfree. “We went to work while much attention was paid to the palace intrigue or on personalities. Having one big personality isn’t enough to change a government. Having many good people, who know and trust each other, in the right places is the key.”

The core of Mr. Trump’s safety net policy is an expansion of work requirements to foster self-sufficiency among recipients of food assistance, Medicaid and housing subsidies to reduce dependence on the government. “Our goal is to get people on the path to self-sufficiency,” Mr. Bremberg said.

Its real purpose, advocates for poor people claim, is to kick hundreds of thousands of the needy off the federal rolls, to cut taxes for the rich.

That effort dovetailed with a separate but related rollback in the enforcement of fair housing, educational equity, payday lending and civil rights cases pursued aggressively under the Obama administration intended to protect vulnerable populations from discrimination and abusive business practices.

“It’s a war on the poor, pure and simple,” said Sherrilyn Ifill, president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, which has challenged several Trump administration policies in federal court.

The pace of administration activity in all of these areas has picked up sharply this year, in part because many of the conservatives inside the administration believe Mr. Trump’s political and legal troubles will limit their window for action after the midterm elections.

Over the last two weeks alone, Mr. Trump’s team unsuccessfully tried to ram through a $15 billion bill clawing back domestic spending, Mr. Mulvaney fired the 25-member advisory board at the Consumer Financial Protection Board, where he serves as the acting director, and administration lawyers challenged an Obama-era anti-discrimination rule that resulted in greater funding for projects in minority neighborhoods.

What remains unclear is whether the flurry of activity will have a long-term effect on the trajectory of federal spending and the management of safety net programs.

This year, the Heritage Foundation reported that Mr. Trump had checked off 64 percent of their policy checklist. But dozens of those victories were partial or pyrrhic.

Some proposals, including Medicaid waivers that allow states to impose work requirements and the reorientation of enforcement across an array of federal agencies, are moving ahead despite court challenges. But many others, especially those in Mr. Mulvaney’s dead-on-arrival budget proposals, have been blocked by Democrats with the help of Senate Republicans.

As Mr. Mulvaney was pitching his reorganization plan to the cabinet and news media on Thursday, the House was passing a farm bill that included stiffer work requirements for SNAP recipients. Senate Republicans have already vowed to kill that provision.

A handful of Mr. Mulvaney’s recommendations, including changes to federal personnel management and State Department overseas aid programs, can be accomplished through executive action alone.

But many other parts of Mr. Mulvaney’s reorganization plan are likely to face similar resistance as work requirements, including efforts to consolidate fisheries and wildlife programs, aggregate food safety and inspection programs in the Agriculture Department, shift rural housing programs to HUD and move the Army Corps of Engineers to civilian agencies, among others.

“This is an art-of-the-possible exercise,” Ms. Weichert said.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/behind-trump%e2%80%99s-plan-to-overhaul-the-government-scaling-back-the-safety-net/ar-AAyZ1H0?ocid=UE13DHP
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Blickers
 
  4  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 12:06 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
What is this supposed defeat? They came up with a perfectly acceptable proposal for dealing with the problem.
Trump's defeat is that he tried to ram through an inhumane policy victimizing immigrants and kids to satisfy his alt-right base and had to do an about-face and rescind most of it.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:06 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Suggesting that a 13 year old be put in a cage with pedophiles is indefensible.


I think Fonda was just suggesting that Barron should try sitting in on some of Trump's cabinet meetings.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:15 am
Quote:
The European Union (EU) has introduced retaliatory tariffs on US goods as a top official launched a fresh attack on President Donald Trump's trade policy.

The duties on €2.8bn (£2.4bn) worth of US goods came into force on Friday.

Tariffs have been imposed on products such as bourbon whiskey, motorcycles and orange juice.

European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said duties imposed by the US on the EU go against "all logic and history".

India, meanwhile, has said it will raise taxes on 29 products imported from the US - including some agricultural goods, steel and iron products - in retaliation for the wide-ranging US tariffs.

The new duties will come into effect from 4 August and will affect US almonds, walnuts and chick peas, among other products.

India is a top buyer of US almond exports and so the move is expected to hurt farmers in America.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44567636
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 01:15 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Trump's defeat is that he tried to ram through an inhumane policy victimizing immigrants and kids to satisfy his alt-right base and had to do an about-face and rescind most of it.
That has nothing to do with any supposed failure to solve the problem of where to hold those kids. Holding them at military bases is a reasonable solution so there was no failure to solve the problem.

And that isn't a fair description of Trump's immigration policy. Prosecuting people for crimes that they have committed is neither inhumane nor victimization.

And details are sketchy but it isn't entirely clear that he has rescinded very much. At the most he is declining to prosecute illegal immigrants who have a kid with them, which is kind of silly since having a kid should not be an excuse for getting away with a crime, and such a loophole is likely to result in children being exploited and victimized in the future. But he certainly hasn't stopped prosecution of all the other illegal immigrants.
hightor
 
  7  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 02:40 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I talk about what Muslims believe.

No. In this case you took a simple factual statement and tried to spin it as antisemitism.
Quote:
That would be Islam.

Except you don't know what every self-identified Muslim "believes". And excuse me if I doubt the depth of your Muslim scholarship; you just seem to rely on well-worn talking points historically used to promote civil conflict, ethnic hatred, and religious intolerance, all done of course, in pursuit of the moral betterment of society.
Quote:
If you cannot see the difference it is no different than you denying the hate for Jews that the Left has.

You're basing your conclusions on generalities; you're assuming that the "Left" is some monolithic, ideologically-unified, effective and disciplined political force — it isn't. You're purporting to speak for every Jew — again, I just sort of doubt your credentials. There are significant numbers of Jews who hate Bibi. There are significant numbers of Israeli Jews who hate Bibi. Are you going to pronounce them "not real Jews"? Don't confuse the Israeli state with a religion. Don't confuse a religion with an ethnic heritage.
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...Palestinians, are they conservatives?

Um, they're refugees; you can't conserve what you've lost.
gungasnake
 
  -4  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 04:15 am
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Olivier5
 
  5  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 06:27 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Suggesting that a 13 year old be put in a cage with pedophiles is indefensible.

And nobody is defending it, so what's your big big problem there?

Seems you care far more for a deleted tweet about Baron Trump written by some random dude than you care about all these kids separated from their parents and thrown in jail. ACTUALLY thrown in jail, not hypothetically.

Your priorities are wrong.
Blickers
 
  4  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 08:31 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Holding them at military bases is a reasonable solution so there was no failure to solve the problem.
Holding kids alone at military bases was not a reasonable solution. Separating young kids from their parents for long periods of time when it is not necessary is child abuse.

Separating kids from their parents and then deporting the parents is kidnaping.

Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Prosecuting people for crimes that they have committed is neither inhumane nor victimization.
Seeking asylum is not a crime, it's completely legal. Crossing the border into the country illegally is a relatively minor crime that Trump has decided to crack down on with absolutely no preparation to carry it out in his Administration humanely or with respect for human rights. Any doubts that Trump did this for any reason other than to pander to his alt-right base can be dispelled by tweets such as this:
https://i.imgur.com/A5uaoVA.jpg

And yes, he is retreating more and more all the time. It's a big humiliation for Trump, with many more to follow.


revelette1
 
  4  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 09:26 am
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WASHINGTON - U.S. President Donald Trump urged Republican lawmakers on Friday to drop their efforts to pass comprehensive immigration legislation until after the November elections, which he hopes will boost the party's majority in Congress.

Trump, faced with a public outcry over his policy that separated children from their migrant parents at the U.S. border with Mexico, tried to refocus the immigration debate on Congress in a series of early morning posts on Twitter.

Despite Republican control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate, the party's slim 51-49 majority in the latter chamber makes some Democratic support necessary to pass most legislation. Trump has often chafed at this, which also leaves his party vulnerable to dissent by just one or two Republican senators.

Elect more Republicans in November and we will pass the finest, fairest and most comprehensive Immigration Bills anywhere in the world," Trump said on Twitter.
"Republicans should stop wasting their time on Immigration until after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November. Dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solves this decades old problem. We can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!" he said.

In fact, many analysts say the party could suffer losses this November, when all 435 House seats and a third of the 100-member Senate will be up for grabs.

Trump bowed to intense pressure on Wednesday and signed an order ending the separation of children from their families while parents are prosecuted for crossing the border illegally, which had caused uproar at home and abroad. He said then he still wanted Congress to pass a more comprehensive immigration bill.

The House on Thursday rejected a bill favored by conservatives that would have halted the practice of splitting up families and addressed a range of other immigration issues.

The bill was defeated in a 231-193 vote, with 41 Republicans joining the opposition. The House also postponed, likely until next week, a vote on a more moderate bill in order to try to drum up more support.
However, Trump's latest tweets could gut that effort.


/Reuters

I wish they would ignore his stupid tweets and keep trying to drum up support for a more moderate bill. It would actually help all sides in the mid-terms. If they don't, the immigration situation is going to be up front and center come mid-terms, regardless of the economy.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 09:37 am
@revelette1,
https://i.imgur.com/HtR8G9Jl.jpg

Trump Sets Fate of Immigration Bill With a Tweet
revelette1
 
  7  
Fri 22 Jun, 2018 10:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
All he really cares about is his next election. He knows he won't be living in Trump land if more democrats get control of the house and senate and he might have a chance of impeachment. It is an ego thing with him. In my opinion, that is why he has fought this looking into the Russian interference from the beginning, because it implies he didn't win on his own, when that was never the point nor necessarily true. He is insecure so he makes it up by being bombastic. He is simply worried about how this immigration situation which he has made 100 times worse is making him look; plus what I just said.
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