@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:This is silly. All politicians lie without consequences.
When Bill Clinton said he never had sex with Monica, (which, biologically, was true), we did not hear the end of the conservative weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth for decades. Now Trump not only lies, but regularly changes lies about the undeniable biological sex he had with Stormy Daniels and the conservatives scream "Witch Hunt!". Such hypocisy.
Quote oralloy:
Quote:In 2012 Obama expressed open contempt for the idea that Russia was still a danger to the west, and promised Putin that he'd be a lot softer on Russia after the election was over.
In 2012 Obama said the number one threat to the US was from terrorism, and he was right. Conservatives try to claim that he said that Russia was no threat at all, which is false. But both then and now, the US is under more threat of physical attack by terrorist groups and individuals than by Russia. So, what's the problem?
Quote oralloy:
Quote:That's not how I remember it. I recall liberals trying to undermine the US and help the USSR destroy us.
Alas, your memory is faulty. Please post the Obama national security advisors who meet secretly with Russian officials and lie about it to the FBI like Trumpian national security advisors Mike Flynn and Carter Page have.
Quote oralloy:
Quote:Actually Trump strengthened those sanctions and started giving weapons to Ukraine. Obama only gave them nonlethal aid.
Trump gave the Ukrainians $41 Million in anti sniper systems but refused the more effective anti-tank weapons. The sanctions Trump approved were against the 13 Russian oligarchs named origianlly by Mueller, while Trump never implemented stronger sanctions. Obama didn't give the Ukrainians weapons, but he combined with Merkel to slap sanctions on Russia for annexing the Crimea that sent the ruble tumbling to less than half it's value. That's real sanctions, not the window dressing Trump did.
Quote oralloy:
Quote:He [Jeff Sessions] didn't lie.
In front of the Senate, Sessions said he never met alone with Russian officials and he had. Then a few weeks later the news found out he met again with Russian officials in secret. We'll let the readers decide what to call it.
Quote Blickers:
Quote:Clearly, Trump was the Manchurian Candidate and has stocked his Administration with people who will do Putin's bidding. What a disgrace.
Quote orally:
Quote:Even if that were actually true, it wouldn't matter.
What's important is that Trump protects the Second Amendment.
We'll let the readers and the voters decide on that one too.