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Ryan is the first House leader from either party not to run for re-election since Bob Michel (R-Ill.) in 1994

(h/t Steve Benen)

@Walter Hinteler,

Yes. That's clearly the agreed-upon strategy for now. As a matter of reality, it does nothing at all to curb Trump while being ambiguous and non-committal enough to serve in the future as plausible deniability.

These people do truly disgust me.

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@blatham,

Wisconsin Republican voting patterns

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alternately holey and crumbly

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@blatham,

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These people do truly disgust me.

Have they been wishing people dead like you do?

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@blatham,

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The obvious dilemma for them is how to do this. How do they reverse and move 180 from their heavily invested/proclaimed support for him to opposition while maintaining credibility to anyone who has a brain stem? Fox will be the key thing to watch.

I see no problems for the GOP, they have but to glom a page or two from Plump's Play book. See how he has taken out DACA , and demonized the Dems as being the party that is solely responsible for its possible demise. BRILLIANT!!!

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"Our long on-going battle with Oceania"

Isnt that actually a line from 1984?

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@blatham,

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If you weren't already utterly disgusted by the behavior of modern Israel, this will get you there

Not all of us think it is a crime for Jews to defend themselves when they are violently attacked.

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@farmerman,

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See how he has taken out DACA , and demonized the Dems as being the party that is solely responsible for its possible demise. BRILLIANT!!!

Not brilliant, just the truth. Democrats turned down a good deal for those kids to keep the borders open and chain migration intact. It is no secret that Democrats prefer illegals to citizens and that will not change by the midterms and voters will be reminded constantly of that fact.

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@oralloy,

Uts questionable. whether trump can fire him. Firinng him will not protect trump from the connsequebces of firiing him. At the veey least abstruction of justice charges and a huge shitsdtorm.#

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@ehBeth,

And odoriforous

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@oralloy,

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Not all of us think it is a crime for Jews to defend themselves when they are violently attacked.

Remember hating Jews is socially acceptable for Democrats(Ellison, Dem vice chairman), while criticizing Islam is out of the question.

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@farmerman,

Oh yes. Blaming Obama, the Clintons and liberalism will be constants.

The Orwell reference was to make the point but it draws on how he portrayed this sort of propaganda.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Uts questionable. whether trump can fire him.

No question at all. The Constitution is clear that the President has absolute power to fire anyone in the executive branch of the federal government.

MontereyJack wrote:

Firinng him will not protect trump from the connsequebces of firiing him. At the veey least abstruction of justice charges

That is incorrect. It is not obstruction of justice for the President to exercise his constitutional powers.

MontereyJack wrote:

and a huge shitsdtorm.#

We're all used to liberal temper tantrums by now and know to just not pay any attention to them.

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Addendum to earlier post on indicators that the power centers in the GOP are turning to reject Trump ("not a real conservative" is, as always, their description of why any conservative person or policy fails) another will be if Senate/House Republicans actually do something of significance with the Dems to prevent Trump from killing the Mueller investigation.

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@blatham,

Like what? Abolish the US Constitution?

I'm sure liberals would love to do away with all those pesky civil rights that they always want to violate, but not much chance of the Republicans going along with it.

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@blatham,

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Oh yes. Blaming Obama, the Clintons and liberalism will be constants.

Considering Obama did more to enable Islamic terror than Muhammad himself and Clinton gave NK a pass and liberal policies destroyed the black family it should be constant. The problems we experience for their weakness and appeasements are constant.

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@oralloy,

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The Constitution is clear that the President has absolute power to fire anyone in the executive branch of the federal government.

Actually the Constitution is pretty much SILENT about the limits to the executive. It took several USSC cases that have established that , save those agencies and posts with quasi, legislative or judicial responsibilities (In which he SHARES responsibilities), the president must still seek "ADVICE and CONSENT" of the SENATE. (Then theres Humphrey's Executors v the US to piss off Frank Roosevelt)

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

the power centers in the GOP are turning to reject Trump ("not a real conservative" is, as always, their description of why any conservative person or policy fails)

the problem with this is that Trump is more popular with Republican voters than old-skool Republican politicians (not that this is saying a lot)

it's going to be an interesting exercise to watch if they can turn this around

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This wins every possible award other than the shoulder pad thing

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Hemant Mehta
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Christian Host: Evangelicals Back Trump Because His Oval Office is Scandal-Free http://dlvr.it/QP4XKj

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@coldjoint,

Total crap. Trump did away with DACA. The country wants a road to legality for aliens. Look at the polls.

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@ehBeth,

That's why Fox will be key. But it won't be easy and it will be interesting (in an academic sort of way which is my personal strategy designed to hold back urges to become a wild-eyed foreign assassin).

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