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@Olivier5,

Tripe.

Prove it.

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@Lash,

Prove what?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Your presidencial election was purchased by a foreign dictator.

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@Lash,

You still need proof of that?

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@Olivier5,

Yes, but surely you have it, making such a bold statement.

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@Lash,

I just happen to believe the assessments made by US intell agencies, at least on this subject. It's a very embarassing for them to admit to having been screwed by the Russians, so i trust them on it.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

It's not a witch hunt, just an enquiry. If Trump is innocent, he has nothing to fear. But if he colluded with the Russians to betray America, he deserves hell.

That could be a Bernie Sanders quote.

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@maporsche,

I'm actually his speech writer... ;-)

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

If Trump is innocent, he has nothing to fear.

if he's innocent he should be encouraging the investigation, participating actively

his responses make him look hinky

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@Olivier5,

Lesson #1. Never trust US FBI or CIA.

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@ehBeth,

That would certainly speed things up, I’d imagine.

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@Olivier5,

Have to mention

1. You don’t have any proof.

2. The FBI nor CIA said that a foreign country/leader bought an election.

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@Lash,

You can usually trust people telling you something embarassing about themselves. It's also easier to trust several independent sources saying the same thing, like when Twitter or Facebook validate the intell agencies assessment.

Example: If Trump was to say: "My dick is sooooo tiny", I would tend to believe him because his natural bias is to lie in the opposite direction. And if his porn star lovers would confirm the info independently, then it'd be trustable info in my book that he's got a micro-penis. Do you understand?

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@Olivier5,

It is a fact he has a micro personality. That has always been a given. Biggest loser in all this hoopla - Paul Ryan. I've watched solid, never tRumper Republicans slowly move away from, their last port in this storm.

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@Olivier5,

I understand that your opinion was swayed by your feelings about people revealing embarrassing things.

There are people who know about this tendency and use it to their advantage.

At any rate, although this successfully convinced you, it is proof of nothing.

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@Lash,

Either your comprehension skills are weak, or you're simply arguing in bad faith.

The Trump campaign benefited from massive support from Russia. That much is clear, and corroborated by the French who also faced similar tactics in our own presidential election last year. This time Putin supported Le Pen.

The only thing worth discussing is whether the Trump campaign was aware of this and collaborated with the Russians.

I bet you they knew, they helped in any way they could, and they laughed their ass off about it all the way to the White House.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Either your comprehension skills are weak, or you're simply arguing in bad faith.

Could easily be that both things are true.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/republicans-just-want-trump-to-be-a-better-liar.html

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Republicans Don’t Care About the Russia Scandal. They Just Want Trump to Be a Better Liar.

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It is obviously natural to want the White House to avoid leaking. What’s unnatural is the Republican belief that the leaking, rather than the subject of the leaks, is the underlying problem.

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The predominant theory of the case in Republican circles, as I argued recently, is that Trump is an innocent man who acts guilty for no apparent reason. This explains their fixation with his tweeting, which is the safest and most common aspect of the Trump president for Republicans to question in public. Twitter is an open-access channel into his mind, into which Trump constantly feeds unfiltered confessions that defeat their efforts to spin on his behalf. Republicans are trying to make the case that, say, Andrew McCabe was fired for legitimate violations of FBI policy, and then Trump writes a tweet making it seem quite evident that he was fired because Trump personally hates and wants to discredit him.

Ed Rogers, the Republican lobbyist and America’s worst columnist, has a new column noting that Trump is doing more things that make him seem extremely guilty, like hiring lawyers who want to shut down the investigation and cozying up to Putin over and over. “Trump constantly does things to make himself appear guilty,” observes Rogers. “Let’s not even talk about his ‘congratulatory message’ to Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

Why does Trump constantly say and do things that make him look guilty? Occam’s razor would offer one explanation. The Republicans have a different one.

interesting watching the Republican line play out here

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Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy. Actually, he is weak, both mentally and physically, and yet he threatens me, for the second time, with physical assault. He doesn’t know me, but he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way. Don’t threaten people Joe!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 22, 2018

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@Olivier5,

I do know that the Clinton campaign exerted a great deal of effort setting Trump up to win the GOP nomination. The proof is their own internal emails. Anyone who wanted to see the truth could easily find it. So-called journalists assisted the Clinton campaign in elevating Trump.

So, we KNOW that’s true.

No one has proven Russia’s possible retweets of my tweets changed one vote.
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
What was not often acknowledged in Trump's heated race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, however, was how her campaign fueled his rise to power.
An email recently released by the whistleblowing organization WikiLeaks shows how the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party bear direct responsibility for propelling the bigoted billionaire to the White House.
In its self-described "pied piper" strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new "mainstream of the Republican Party" in order to try to increase Clinton's chances of winning.
The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates "as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right." Clinton's camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be "elevated" to "leaders of the pack" and media outlets should be told to "take them seriously."
The strategy backfired — royally.

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