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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Sat 10 Mar, 2018 11:18 pm
@oralloy,
Maybe because we obviously didn't kill everyone who was annoying us. The remained around to kill three Americans in Benghazi you may recall.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 10 Mar, 2018 11:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
We should have done better to protect our diplomats, but those terrorists hadn't been annoying us.

Kadaffy on the other hand had been quite annoying.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Sat 10 Mar, 2018 11:40 pm
@MontereyJack,
Screed? That's rich. Is there anything more vituperative than referring to the Electoral College as the Founding Father's poison pill for future Americans?

I am well aware that YOU did not reject Obama's policies. Unl, ke you I would not presume to suggest that because one candidate won a election (or the popular vote) that the whole country supported their policies. I also didn't even suggest that Clinton lost because the nation rejected Obama's policies.

What I did write was that to assert that the Trump victory was due to racism (a "whitelash") was to ignore the fact that 1) Trump received votes from people who had voted for Obama 2) The only choices available to voters were white candidates and 3) Clearly, a great many people did reject Obama's policies and did not want HRC, of all people, giving us 4 more years of them.

Now if you can show me how the "basic facts" of any one of these 3 points are wrong, I might just concede that my whole argument has collapsed.

You can't of course, but please try to without dragging in the red herring of the Electoral College. Even if I were to accept your nonsense that the EC is a poison pill from the Founders that forced Trump down the throats of the American people, it would not confirm the outrageous claim by Van Jones that the election represented a "whitewash"

Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Sat 10 Mar, 2018 11:51 pm
Trump celebrates winning 52 percent of women in 2016
Quote:
President Trump arrived in western Pennsylvania on Saturday night for one of his favorite presidential tasks: delivering a long, free-association speech at a political rally.
[...]
“Hey, didn’t we surprise them with women during the election? Remember? ‘Women won’t like Donald Trump,’ ” he said, mimicking cable news pundits. “I said, ‘Have I really had that kind of a problem? I don‘t think so.’ But: ‘Women won’t like Donald Trump. It will be a rough night for Donald Trump because the women won’t come out.’ We got 52 percent. Right? Fifty-two.

“And I’m running against a woman! You know it’s not that easy,” Trump said.

That figure, 52 percent, is clearly incorrect. [...]
https://i.imgur.com/gmKJJefl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4dbU7hQl.jpg
[...]
In other words, Trump’s celebration of how well he did with women appears to have been, in fact, a celebration of how well he did with white women, somehow skipping over that critical modifier. What’s more, Trump’s was the worst showing for a Republican among white women since 2000, when George W. Bush barely edged out Al Gore.
... ... ...
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 04:22 am
Quote:
A military parade requested by US President Donald Trump will take place on 11 November - Veterans' Day - in Washington DC, the Pentagon has confirmed.

In a memo, it said tanks would not be involved to help limit damage to roads.

Mr Trump had asked the military to organise a showcase back in January.

He had reportedly been impressed by a Bastille Day parade in Paris last year, and declared: "We're going to have to try and top it."

The Pentagon said the parade will travel from the White House to the Capitol, and will feature a "heavy air component at the end".

It will include "wheeled vehicles only", and will focus on the work of US military veterans through the ages, starting with the American Revolutionary War.

US military parades are usually only used to mark victory at the end of a war.

US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis has said the planned parade demonstrates the "president's affection and respect for the military".

But Democrats have compared it to the military spectacles favoured by autocratic nations.

"What an absurd waste of money!" tweeted Representative Jim McGovern when the idea first emerged.

The White House's budget chief has said the event will cost taxpayers up to $30m (£21m).

The District of Columbia Council, Washington's legislative body, aired its disapproval last month with a tweet reading, "Tanks but no tanks!"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43358298

This seems incredibly vulgar and tacky. I can't speak for veteran's day in America, but over here 11th of November is Remembrance Day. It's a time for the laying of wreaths, quiet reflection and remembering those who died in wars, not the glorification of war.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/bc/ab/8bbcabea542853b79393aa266c14aad4.jpg

This is what's happening over here.

Quote:
Silhouettes of First World War soldiers appeared in sites across the UK this morning as part of a fundraising campaign for the charity Remembered.

The Tommies will appear at four sites across the country this morning (see gallery above). and will tour the country until Armistice Day (11 November). Members of the public are being encouraged to buy their own 10-inch versions to remember their own relatives, a century on from the end of the Great War.

The charity, founded last year, has the goals of commemorating the war dead, educating the public and in particular younger generations about the WWI, and raising funds for those suffering from PTSD and other legacies of combat. Remembered's patron is former British Army chief of general staff Lord Dannatt.


https://www.prweek.com/article/1458222/soldier-silhouettes-appear-across-uk-wwi-centenary-charity

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzgktOLNzksxu_MiG_7PqOCXmnNYS-YoHnulYVvk1UrsRm2_QgMA
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 04:58 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:

This seems incredibly vulgar and tacky.

It is.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 06:17 am
@hightor,
https://i.imgur.com/kys5TIAl.jpg
(Steve Bannon and Marine Le Pen (from far right to far right)

"The tide of history is with us and it will compel us to victory after victory, after victory."
"Let them call you racists, let them call you xenophobes, let them call you nativists. Wear it as a badge of honour. Because every day we get stronger and they get weaker."

Source
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 06:50 am
@hightor,
Thank you, I must apologise for not giving Veteran's Day the capitals it merits. It was an oversight, and I've only just noticed it now, too late to correct. I hope I didn't offend anyone, because that was not my intention.

Again sorry.
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hightor
 
  3  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 07:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Trump received votes from people who had voted for Obama.

This was an interesting demographic. My purely anecdotal experience would suggest that a large proportion of these people were what we could call "unsophisticated" voters. These are people who might or might not have a party affiliation — if they do it's often the same as their parents. They don't vote in the midterms and seldom vote in local elections unless there's a hot button issue like school taxes. Some of these people have a very unrealistic idea of how Washington D.C. actually works and seem to feel that all we need to do is elect a president and he (probably not she) will be able to do all these great things for them. And then, when the delusion of a promised gravy train doesn't appear there follows a disillusionment, which often involves switching one's vote to the opposite party. "This'll show 'em!"

The Republicans in 2012 and of course Trump in 2016 made outright attempts to gain the votes of the disappointed and resentful. And of course H. Clinton wasn't the sort of politician who could really address this issue by deflecting criticism and making a case that Republican obstruction was at fault. She just sounded whiny. (Bill Clinton — cringe — when at the top of his game, might have been able to.)

Based on people I talked to during the Obama campaigns; having voted for Obama doesn't prove that someone is devoid of racial prejudice, just that it isn't an all-consuming passion. Like the old guy who told me in '08, with a big smile, that he'd be "voting for the n****r", since he "always wanted to pick cotton". Or the "progressive" woman who wouldn't vote for Obama again in '12 because he hadn't lived up to her expectations of what a black male was capable of doing, having completely misread the guy — she assumed he'd be the Wesley Snipes of politics. I don't think Obama's victories show us to be a post-racial society, nor would I completely discount "whitelash" as one of the factors giving Trump a majority in the EC. I agree that "racism" is not the sole, nor even the main, reason for his victory.
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 07:04 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Wow. Just wow.
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Lash
 
  1  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 07:09 am
What in hell is Steve Bannon trying to accomplish?
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 07:14 am
@Lash,
Steve Bannon Is Done Wrecking the American Establishment. Now He Wants to Destroy Europe’s.



The Evola Virus

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thack45
 
  4  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 07:15 am
@Lash,
From the looks of it, he envisions a world where non-whites had better know their place
thack45
 
  5  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 08:42 am
The Trumpo the Clown Show was back in business yesterday in Pennsylvania – bigger and better than ever. I'm awaiting the full transcript, but just a few of the highlights:

*****
Mocked the idea of carrying himself with decency and respect – being "presidential", as he called it – because that's what his people want. “Don’t forget, this got us elected.”

Remarked on the physical appearance of several people, as well as how one compared to himself, of course. Insulted others with tried and true name calling strategy.

Wondered aloud about an idea so innovative and novel that the regular people of the US might not even be ready for it yet: death to drug dealers.

Says SK president Moon credited him with keeping the Winter Olympics from being a "total failure."

Wants Oprah Winfrey to run for president, so that we can all witness what "would be a painful experience for her."

Appears to have claimed victory in his war on America's non-greatness. We now need only to "Keep America great, exclamation point."

*****
And so much more. So. Much. The self-congratulatory piece of rich white trash and his lying, pandering nonsensical word vomit prove that the things our mothers admonished us not to be when we were children was indeed just a disservice to us all. Enjoy the show folks.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:04 am
@thack45,
Quote:
Re: Lash (Post 6611337)
From the looks of it, [Bannon] envisions a world where non-whites had better know their place
"We should all be racists and proud to call ourselves racists and recognize our duty, as white people, to promote racist ideas all around the world" is explicitly what Bannon is saying. So that's really cool.

When the military jets and bombers and drones fly over DC in the coming Trump military parade, with the thousands of brave soldiers marching past, feet kicked high, arms dutifully outstretched, I certainly hope those ranks of heroes are not sullied and degraded by any coloreds or jews.

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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:20 am
I see Trump is considering appointing Rodrigo Duterte as Drug Czar. Perfect. It's what Lincoln would do. It's what Jesus would do. America is being made great again before our very eyes.
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:29 am
Today's winner of the "You say Tatar and I say Jew-vermin" award...
Quote:
In an interview with American broadcaster NBC News that aired Saturday, Putin also suggested that some of the 13 Russian nationals indicted by the United States may not be ethnically Russian.

“Maybe they are not even Russians, but Ukrainians, Tatars or Jews, but with Russian citizenship, which should also be checked,” he said.
TPM
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:37 am
Those of you who know about von Spakovsky's history in the "voter fraud" propaganda campaign will have a proper regard for the man's credibility. It looks like the judge of the Kobach trail is getting a good a chance to join the rest of us in determining von Spakovsky's truthfulness.
Quote:
So last September, a reporter asked Hans von Spakovsky — one of the leaders of the conservative push to hype voter fraud — whether he was the sender of an email that said putting Democrats or mainstream Republicans on Trump’s voter fraud commission would lead to its “abject failure.”

Von Spakoskvy denied it. “I don’t know anything about that,” he said.

Hours later, it was revealed that von Spakovsky had indeed sent the email. He later claimed, implausibly, that he was confused because the reporter had phrased her question imprecisely.

And now, Tierney Sneed reports, the whole embarrassing episode is being entered into evidence to impeach von Spakovsky’s credibility as a witness in the trial over Kansas’s strict voter registration law. Including the transcript of the reporter’s audio recording, in which von Spakovsky falsely denies sending the email.
TPM
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:41 am
Hands down, this wins our "Here's a headline that gets it right!" award (from Politico)
Quote:
At Pennsylvania rally, Trump endorses himself

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thack45
 
  2  
Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:45 am
@blatham,
And I imagine that after he meets Un, he'll be all in for poisoning his adversaries
 

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