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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

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His lawyers are devising a defensive strategy. It's what they are paid to do.
I'm sure that no Democrat faced with legal jeopardy would ever stoop to such a foul device!
Somehow you didn't notice that the quote you reference says nothing about Trump's defense team. It is entirely concerned with how the WH PR operations, in tandem with right wing media, will set about back-stopping Trump and doing so with absolutely no concern for what Meuller's investigation reveals. They'll smear Flynn, if needed. They'll smear Meuller, if needed. They'll smear the FBI, if needed. They'll smear women who recount sexual assaults by Trump, if needed.

Clearly these suggestions of a "smear" are expressions of your opinion and not fact. Otherwise I'm sure you would certainly have added citations.

So far the Miller investigation has yielded no collusion of any kind, and instead only a couple of minor false statement charges against peripheral figures. On the flip side it has yielded ample contextual indications of the cover-up ongoing within the FBI for the Clinton investigation; and renewed indicators of bias on the part of senior FBI figures involved in both it and the continuing Mueller investigation.

One result has been renewed interest in the very odd silence of the Obama Justice Department on the closure of the Clinton investigation, leaving the hapless Comey to do their dirty work. This coupled with recollections of the "accidental" meeting between AG Lynch and Bill Clinton at a remote hangar in the Phoenix airport at which they reportedly "chatted about the grandkids" and the odd rather speedy "closure interviews" with Hillary that quickly followed, is liable to leave a stink a good deal worse than the results of the Mueller Investigation itself.

If the ongoing investigations also find that the now discredited Clinton-funded "Trump dossier" was used as supporting evidence for any FISA warrants and communications monitoring, the results of which were "uncovered" as a result of the last minute Obama reclassification of this material,.... the result could well indicate something far worse than "collusion".

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@georgeob1,

I wrote:

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They'll smear Flynn, if needed. They'll smear Meuller, if needed. They'll smear the FBI, if needed. They'll smear women who recount sexual assaults by Trump, if needed.

You wrote:

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Clearly these suggestions of a "smear" are expressions of your opinion and not fact. Otherwise I'm sure you would certainly have added citations.

Apparently, you've been living in a cave. But let's clarify some terms in case all of this is foggy to you. "Smear - to damage the reputation of someone by false accusations".

So, would you consider that this term properly applies to, say, Donald Trump insisting he had evidence that Obama was born in Africa (and that he had a team working in Hawaii on this matter)?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

And that got a thumbs down!

I suspect that at least some of the thumbs down are coming from people who do not post actively in the thread.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

Do you think the ACA could have worked if it hadn't been turned into a partisan issue, and efforts were made to deal with the inevitable problems involved in trying to implement a 3000 page bill affecting an industry representing 18% of the economy?

Yes. And I think that fixing it will still make it work. I'm hopeful that the bipartisan fix will still make it through Congress.

Although really it's high time they started paying attention the the SHARE Act (at least if they want my vote in 2018).

hightor wrote:

I suspect that any Republican plan will be big on medical savings accounts (shrinking the tax base) with very little in the way of subsidies or specified procedures.

Probably. They seem to like the Singapore model. I don't know much about it, but it seems to involve medical savings accounts.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

Somehow you didn't notice that the quote you reference says nothing about Trump's defense team. It is entirely concerned with how the WH PR operations, in tandem with right wing media, will set about back-stopping Trump and doing so with absolutely no concern for what Meuller's investigation reveals. They'll smear Flynn, if needed. They'll smear Meuller, if needed. They'll smear the FBI, if needed. They'll smear women who recount sexual assaults by Trump, if needed.

Since that's exactly what Democrats did when faced with truthful accusations against Bill Clinton, it seems reasonable enough for the Republicans to respond that way to untrue accusations against Donald Trump.

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@wmwcjr,

wmwcjr wrote:

I'm convinced that many of the American evangelicals, had they been Germans living in Germany during the early 1930s, would have supported Hitler. During the Jim Crow era in the U.S., many of the white fundamentalists were among the most outspoken of the segregationists. (See Politically Incorrect by Ralph Reed, President of the so-called Christian Coalition.) For example, Bob Jones University was founded by a spokesman for the Ku Klux Klan. I speak as a Christian, by the way.

Southern Baptism was founded on White Supremacy......

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@blatham,

If, as increasingly appears likely, the Mueller Investigation wraps up with no charges involving alleged wrongful pre election collusion with the Russian government, will you them term this whole affair as a smear?

Certainly the only evidence yet made available - a now discredited "dossier" bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign (and perhaps indirectly the FBI) does not support the veracity of such charges.

That Trump, Clinton and most other prominent politicians have used false charges against opponents and/or deceptive denials of their own wrongdoing is hardly news.

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Stop the presses, tRump just told his first truth while in office. Then again, he said it in private, so it doesn't count.

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“YOU ALL JUST GOT A LOT RICHER,” TRUMP TELLS FRIENDS AT MAR-A-LAGO AFTER SIGNING TAX OVERHAUL

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/you-all-just-got-a-lot-richer-trump-tells-friends-at-mar-a-lago-after-signing-tax-overhaul

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@georgeob1,

Sorry george but unless you do this discussion enterprise with integrity, I'm not interested.

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Today's edition of Voices From the Right

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A storm is gathering, and there is every reason to believe that 2018 will be the most consequential political year of our lives.

The reckoning upon us follows a year mercifully drawing to a close this weekend. Over that horrid year, President Trump has questioned the legitimacy of federal judges, used Stalinist barbs to attack the free press and cast contempt on the rule of law, while his campaign manager, his national security adviser and a foreign policy aide have been marched into federal courts. Those anti-democratic instincts were made all the more ominous by his praising of autocrats across the world as they were ruthlessly consolidating power in countries such as Russia, China and the Philippines.

Joe Scarborough

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Mueller Meets Trump | Season 29 | THE SIMPSONS

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

Today's edition of Voices From the Right...
Joe Scarborough

Heh, Morning Joe.

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@Real Music,

Reality TV Twisted Evil

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy wrote:
If I don't see movement on some pro-gun legislation, I'm not going to be a happy camper come election day.

Aw, poor baby.

What was that, some kind of leftist attempt at mean-spiritedness?

If I'm pissed off on election day, spare your pity for anyone who might want me to vote for them.

Right now I've seen zero Senate action on the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 or the Veterans 2nd Amendment Protection Act. And no action in either chamber on the SHARE Act.

I'm watching to see what the Republicans do with all three of these bills. If the Republican leadership is hoping that inaction will escape my notice, they are hoping in vain.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

Sorry george but unless you do this discussion enterprise with integrity, I'm not interested.

Blatham, if you are trying to identify the one person in this thread who does not discuss with integrity, I suggest that you go scrounge up a shiny mirror.

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@oralloy,

No oralloy. Not mean spirited. I stand completely with you in your sampaign to withold your vote from the GOP. Third party voters never win
Allthey can do is siphon off votes from major party candidates .perhaps enough so they lose so if you cost the GOP enouh votrs so they lose you will be doimg the ountry s great service
Go.it big boy.

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At least 12 people have been killed and four others critically injured in a fire at an apartment building in the Bronx borough of New York.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said the fire was the deadliest in the city for at least 25 years. The victims include a one-year-old child, he added.

The cause of the fire, on Prospect Avenue, near Fordham University and the Bronx Zoo, is not yet clear.

More than 160 firefighters helped bring the blaze under control.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42508963

I bet there's loads of parallels with the Grenfell tower fire in London. That found cost trumped safety.

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They were mentally raped, I tellzya!

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The Kleins, who owned Sweet Cakes By Melissa, made national headlines in 2013 when they declined to make a wedding cake for Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer, a lesbian couple.

The Kleins were subjected to a homofascist mob that boycotted their business, threatened other wedding vendors and subjected their young children to death threats.

The lesbian couple filed a complaint with the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries. The lesbian couple said they had been physically harmed by the bakery’s decision not to bake the wedding cake.

According to a court filing, the couple alleged they had suffered depression, embarrassment, hysteria, impaired digestion, nervous appetite, weight gain, and mental anguish. They also said they felt “mentally raped.”

Big-ass trauma there, sho nuff. I'm sure they haughtily took their **** and went elsewhere buy a cake, if they could manage to crawl that far in their physically wounded state, anyway.

After being brutally tortured and maimed by them vicious cake-bakers, I bet they got MILLIONS, eh!? Let's see here.....

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After an administrative law judge ruled that the Kleins had violated a state law banning discrimination based on sexual orientation, Avakian dropped the hammer – ordering the young family to pay $135,000 in fines.

The Kleins were forced to shut down their family-owned business after the massive fine was levied. The government raided the Klein family’s bank accounts and took their money.

https://www.toddstarnes.com/faith/oregon-court-rules-christian-bakery-must-pay-135000-lesbian-couple/

What!? A measly $135,000? Merely bankrupted and put out of business? Those homophobes should have been put to death, and their children enslaved for a lifetime to pay off the debt owed to these brutalized women, eh? The only thing worse than rape is mental rape.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

Sorry george but unless you do this discussion enterprise with integrity, I'm not interested.

Hahahahahahaha. The irony of it all, eh?

Cheese-eatin muthafukka.

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@layman,

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The irony of it all, eh?

Selective entity, much? It's like they only want to hear the sound of another chum blowing hot air up their own kyhber passes.

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