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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 07:04 pm
Now going three football fields and one small cow pasture off topic...

Not sure if any of you have seen the mashup video of old hollywood movie dance sequences laid over top of Bruno Mars/Mark Ronstad's Uptown Funk. The song is, of course, brilliant but I think this mashup is almost equally a work of genius. I've watched it perhaps 20 times now and I'm still finding edit cuts that blow me away.

It's done by a group of four people in the UK who call themselves NerdFest UK. I'm trying to get in touch with them to find out more about the video. Like, how ******* long did it take you to dig through some movie database and pull out so many perfect bits of film and then edit? If I get in touch with them, I'll let you know.
Here's the video
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 08:03 pm
@revelette1,
Read here:

Quote:
OVERVIEW OF THE PRIVACY ACT OF 1974

No agency shall disclose any record which is contained in a system of records by any means of communication to any person, or to another agency, except pursuant to a written request by, or with the prior written consent of, the individual to whom the record pertains [subject to 12 exceptions].” 5 U.S.C. § 552a(b).


Taylor v. Orr, No. 83-0389, 1983 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 20334, at *6 n.6 (D.D.C. Dec. 5, 1983) (addressing alternative argument, stating that: “Implied consent is never enough”...[A] protected privacy interest can be waived only by the person whose interest is affected, . . . The OMB Guidelines caution that “the consent provision was not intended to permit a blanket or open-ended consent clause, i.e., one which would permit the agency to disclose a record without limit,”


And here:

Quote:
The Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 (ECPA) extended government restrictions on wire taps from telephone calls to include transmissions of electronic data by computer (18 U.S.C. § 2510 et seq.), added new provisions prohibiting access to stored electronic communications, i.e., the Stored Communications Act (18 U.S.C. § 2701 et seq.), and added so-called pen/trap provisions that permit the tracing of telephone communications (18 U.S.C. § 3121 et seq.).

The ECPA extended privacy protections provided by the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (of employers monitoring of employees phone calls) to include also electronic and cell phone communications.

From the documents leaked by ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden, it became well known that various governments have been running programs to tap all kinds of communication at massive scales, including email. While the legality of this is still under question, it is certainly clear that the email of citizens with no ties to a terrorist organization have been intercepted and stored. Whistleblower and former National Security Agency (NSA) employee William Binney has reported that the NSA has collected over 20 trillion communications via interception,[30] including many email communications, representing one aspect of the NSA warrantless surveillance controversy


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_privacy

Furthermore, the memorandum of understanding between Trump and the GSA clearly stated, under the heading "Telecommunications and IT Services" that "all data on these devices will be deleted" upon return.

https://www.scribd.com/document/367460029/Trump-GSA#fullscreen&from_embed

The arguments which rely on what the agreements DON'T say are irrelevant. You can't be deemed to have waived your constitution rights just because you didn't demand, in advance, that they not be violated.
layman
 
  -3  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 08:08 pm
@layman,
As far as any "letter" (which is not a warrant and not a court-authorized subpoena) from the FBI to the GSA goes:

Quote:
A national security letter (NSL) is an administrative subpoena issued by the United States government to gather information for national security purposes. NSLs do not require prior approval from a judge.

By law, NSLs can request only non-content information, for example, transactional records and phone numbers dialed, but never the content of telephone calls or e-mails.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 08:20 pm
@blatham,
There are some great music and dance timing apps that help with this sort of thing.
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 08:33 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
The arguments which rely on what the agreements DON'T say are irrelevant. You can't be deemed to have waived your constitution rights just because you didn't demand, in advance, that they not be violated.


I am referring to this kind of tripe, as set forth in the (non-authoritative) article that you, Rev, want to point me to:

Quote:
That claim appears to conflict with the agreement the Trump transition entered with GSA before the election, which contains no obvious prohibition on GSA providing law enforcement officials with transition documents, no provision denoting the documents as being the property of the transition team.


As I have demonstrated, it is well established, and the GSA itself acknowledges, that the materials in question are private and belong to the transition team, not the government. There is no need to put it in the memo of understanding. The putative "conflict" does not exist. This is a totally misleading and fallacious "argument," as any non-Trump hater would clearly realize.
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 08:48 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Read Here

Post 6,599,594


Another specious argument offered in that article:

Quote:
The memorandum of understanding between the GSA and Trump— advises the Trump transition that “Office of the President-elect staff members will be required to individually sign and accept [government furnished] laptop and Smartphone while accepting IT Rules of Behavior to safeguard the assets and the integrity of the network infrastructure.”

Those rules of behavior include a privacy waiver, which notes that, “Users have no expectation of privacy on GSA IT resources since all activities are subject to monitoring.”


The "reasoning" here is worthless for at least three reasons:

1. Agreeing to follow rules designed to "safeguard the assets and the integrity of the network infrastructure," does not mean, and cannot mean, that they are agreeing to accept terms which apply only to government employees, which they are NOT. The work product of government employees pertaining to government business on government time is not their private property, so, naturally, FOR THEM, there is no expectation of privacy. Not so with transition team members.

2. As I have said before, any waiver of a constitutional right (such as to be free from unreasonable search and seizure of your private property) MUST be explicit. Even assuming the quoted language applied to the transition team (it doesn't) this boilerplate fine print would not suffice to establish an informed consent to waive your constitutional rights.

3. Likewise, (to address an argument advanced in another post) acknowledging that the GSA had the right to "audit" and "monitor" the use of it's resources to protect against waste, fraud, and theft, is not a CONSENT to confiscate all your private emails. I have already cited authoritative articles which clearly state, for example, that even if a tenant gives (consents to) a landlord a right to "inspect" his premises for limited management purpose, that consent CANNOT be used to justify an warrrantless search for evidence of a crime. Same deal here.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:17 pm
Lyndon LaRouche PAC
10 hrs ·

The treasonous actions by the leading figures in the FBI, CIA, and National Democratic Institute (NDI) under Obama are now undeniable. And, the exposure of their concerted effort to carry out a coup d'état against the elected government of the United States is now irrefutable.

Just in the last week, a former Assistant Director of the FBI itself James Kallstrom, in several media interviews, denounced the "cabal" around James Comey who used the FBI to run a "fifth column to basically take away the Presidency of the United States." He called Russiagate a "farce," and pointed to the MI6 dossier at the center of the Russiagate hoax, saying that if it is confirmed that this British intelligence scam were used to get the FISA Court to approve the operations against Trump and his campaign, and if the Comey team "knew that was phony information, that is a serious, serious felony."
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:23 pm
@layman,
I signed an agreement opening a bank account today. That agreement contained no "obvious prohibition" on me robbing the bank.

It clearly follows that I now have the right to rob it, right?
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layman
 
  -4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:29 pm
@Builder,
Exactly, Builda.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:47 pm
@layman,
We can safely assume that the "deep state" includes the MSM, in collusion with the "secret" services, or most of them.
glitterbag
 
  4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:49 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Heh. Nice try, cheese eater.

"KEY TRUMP-RUSSIA LINK," I tellya!


Look at you!!!!! All this attention!!!!! People talking to you as if they give a crap!!!!! Enjoy it while it lasts, Princess.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:58 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
People talking to you as if they give a crap


As opposed to you turning up to crap all over the place.

I get a clear whiff of the ol' green-eyed monster in that post, glambag.

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layman
 
  -4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 09:59 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

3. Likewise, (to address an argument advanced in another post) acknowledging that the GSA had the right to "audit" and "monitor" the use of it's resources to protect against waste, fraud, and theft, is not a CONSENT to confiscate all your private emails. I have already cited authoritative articles which clearly state, for example, that even if a tenant gives (consents to) a landlord a right to "inspect" his premises for limited management purpose, that consent CANNOT be used to justify an warrantless search for evidence of a crime. Same deal here.


A property owner who rents his property retains legal title, but forfeits his right to use or occupy the property and cannot reasonably claim that the tenant's property is his to confiscate and/ or give to others as he pleases. The "contents" are the tenants. Likewise, the "contents" of a rented computer belong the one renting it, not the owner.

The MOU makes it clear that the Trump transition team is renting (and paying for) the government property being used. The government doesn't even have a colorable claim to the contents of the computers it rents to others. GSA's contention to the contrary reeks of bad faith.

Quote:
GSA will supply furniture and office equipment to the Office of the President-Elect. The rent for this "turn-key" office space....is chargeable to the Presidential Transition Act funds...


https://www.scribd.com/document/367460029/Trump-GSA#fullscreen&from_embed

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layman
 
  -3  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 10:03 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

We can safely assume that the "deep state" includes the MSM, in collusion with the "secret" services, or most of them.


Correctomundo.
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glitterbag
 
  6  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 10:15 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

But, but...G-Bag worked for the government!


Well that's true, I did for 32 years. Mr. G'bag between his military, civilian DOD work and reactivation after 9/11 has about 50+. It must be a great deal of fun imagining how the govt. works in Finn or Lameboy world. I wouldn't know because I had to comply with GSA requests, Senate or House oversight committees. and comply with all the regs our Military organizations operate under. But please, I don't want either of you to think I suspect you're morons because I don't. You may be ignorant of the demands of the intelligence agencies (well, that's the frigging truth) and what we must (what we have sworn) to do...but that's really OK. We do it because guys like you would screw it up beyond redemption.
Builder
 
  0  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 10:20 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
We do it because guys like you would screw it up beyond redemption.


Yes, making tea and collecting lunch orders is a yuuuuuuuuge responsibility, and not for the faint of heart.
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 10:32 pm
Aint there no bottom to this filthy cesspool?

Quote:
More links between ‘Russiagate’ probe team & Hillary surface

Serious questions have been raised over the independence of Robert Mueller’s investigation into allegations of Russian meddling in last year’s US presidential election. This follows fresh reports of strong links between members of the investigating team and Hillary Clinton and her aides.

Investigator Aaron Zebley – often referred to as Mueller’s “right-hand man” after having served as the former FBI director’s chief of staff – acted as an attorney for Justin Cooper, the IT staffer who installed Clinton’s private email server at her home, and who destroyed her old Blackberry phones with a hammer, a Fox News report states.

Documents obtained by the news outlet reportedly reveal that, Zebley, who was also a senior counselor in the National Security Division at the Department of Justice, “stonewalled” senate investigators following requests to interview him during their probe into Clinton.

"We are troubled by [Zebley’s] complete refusal to engage the committee in a discussion about how to further assuage your concerns,” congressional investigators complained in a letter to Cooper.
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 10:48 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
We do it because guys like you would screw it up beyond redemption.


Yes, making tea and collecting lunch orders is a yuuuuuuuuge responsibility, and not for the faint of heart.


OMG, how did you manage? It must have been terrifying.
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 11:00 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
OMG, how did you manage? It must have been terrifying.


I can see why you stayed as tea lady for 32 years. Not too bright kiddo.......
glitterbag
 
  4  
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 11:10 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
OMG, how did you manage? It must have been terrifying.


I can see why you stayed as tea lady for 32 years. Not too bright kiddo.......


Oh poopsie, I don't know what a tea lady is. Is that an Aussie thing? Oh never mind, I really don't care but it seems important to you. Actually, I don't really care about what floats your aussie butt either. Ga Day mate
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