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glitterbag
 
  3  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:02 am
@Builder,
I heard it hours ago on local news. For the actual quote just google 'trump not fit to clean toilets' and USA today. Or pick your own version to search. Apparently the editorial board believed Trump intimated Sen. Gellibrand was "all but a whore". That's the papers quote not mine. Trump was also accused of 'sickening behavior' by the editorial board. But you can read it yourself, or just continue to suggest racist bullshit....and curry favor with our blockheads.
Builder
 
  -3  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:19 am
@glitterbag,
Accusations are just that, glambag. Unfounded talk.

I can't recall a president in my history that Americans have been homogenous is supporting.

I was pretty sickened by what the wikileaks accusations against HRC exposed.

But I will note that no court cases for slander have been instigated over those claims, and that the Podesta lobbying group has disbanded.

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Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 01:16 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

I really don't think anyone will be surprised if Moore wins. If that happens, it will shine a great big spotlight on Alabama and the kind of people they support and choose to send to Washington. Alabama rubes embraced an outsider (Bannon) who urged them to not let the smarty pants other 49 states to tell them what to do. This works out just fine for me, now the entire US and the rest of the world knows what Alabama family values are truly about.


Ooops...Jones won. Shocked

How does that square with your supercilious assessment of the citizens of Alabama?

I'm anxious to see how you explain the Jones victory and at the same time hold fast to your contempt for fellow Americans who just happen to live in the Deep South.

Considering that Jones is an unabashed supporter of abortion on demand; any time, any reason, any method, a lot of the rubes down there must have really found the allegations and evidence against Moore to be disturbing, and possibly even in conflict with Alabama family values! Nah, far more likely that they are all so ignorant, they didn't know there was an election today, and so stayed home drinking moonshine, chewing on cheap beef jerky, and passing the time by telling knee-slapping racist jokes to one another.

I suppose you'll jump on the blatham express yet again and contend that African-Americans not only came out in droves to vote against Moore, they doubled their numbers overnight. Pretty neat trick!

Considering that blacks tend to be a fairly monolithic voting bloc (For Democrats), I sure hope they can't duplicate and improve upon this magical feat in states where they don't represent even 25% of the population, as they do in Alabama. I guess it must have been their unique Alabama Family Values that overcame the ignorant, racist, pedophiliaphile white rubes who only make up 73% of the state's population.

You really are a corker. Smile Recently you once again reached into your shallow bag of glittery tricks and pulled out your old "you must be really bitter" line. You know, the one you deliver with faux expressions of incredulity and even pity, as if rancor is such an alien emotion to a centered sweetheart as yourself, you have a hard time just imagining it. Now faced with the prospect of the loathsome Republican winning in Alabam, your grapes couldn't have been any sourer.

Your prior comments on Moore would lead any reasonable person to assume that not only did you loathe the judge, you viewed his possible election as a disaster. Yet presented, by layman, with evidence of him pulling out a win, you tell us it's just peachy with you because it will reveal what deplorable wretches live and vote in Alabama (except of course for the black ones).

Yeah, nothing bitter about that. Laughing

izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 02:16 am
I think someone else is updating fart's twitter account. In any event he's conceded even if the nonce hasn't.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940795587733151744~/news/world-us-canada-42333712
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Setanta
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 02:54 am
Oh man, another Democrat in the Senate! We must be living in the end days.
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hightor
 
  5  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 03:22 am
Fox News v. Robert Mueller

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD, NYT, DEC. 12, 2017

Quote:
If only we could dismiss Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Laura Ingraham and the other well-paid propagandists at Fox News as though they were harmless drunks at the end of the bar, ticking off their conspiracy theories to anyone who will listen. Unfortunately, the guy sitting on the next stool is the president of the United States, and he’s all ears.

President Trump watches cable news for four to eight hours a day, according to a report in The Times last weekend. Mr. Trump has disputed that number, but not the fact that his TV diet consists overwhelmingly of Fox’s sycophants, who have now gathered around one insistent message aimed at their No. 1 fan: Fire Robert Mueller now.

That would be a tremendous mistake, one that ought to alarm any true liberal or conservative. It would strike at the very idea that no American is above the law. The special counsel’s seven-month-old investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russian government officials to help influence the 2016 presidential election has already led to the indictments of two top campaign officials on multiple federal crimes and guilty pleas from two others for lying to the F.B.I. And it doesn’t appear to be winding down anytime soon.

But in Fox’s alternate universe, the investigation is “illegitimate and corrupt,” or so says Gregg Jarrett, a legal analyst who appears regularly on Mr. Hannity’s nightly exercise in presidential ego-stroking. “Mueller’s stooges literally are doing everything within their power, and then some, to try and remove President Trump from office,” Mr. Hannity said last Wednesday.

“What a total travesty! They should all step aside,” Ms. Ingraham said last week, almost gleefully, about the supposed conflicts of interest permeating the special counsel’s highly experienced team of investigators. “Including Bob Mueller.”

Perhaps the most inflammatory rhetoric has come from Ms. Pirro, the host of “Justice With Judge Jeanine” and a “presidential favorite,” according to The Times. “There is a cleansing needed in our F.B.I. and Department of Justice,” Ms. Pirro said Saturday, in her most unhinged rant yet. “It needs to be cleansed of individuals who should not just be fired but who need to be taken out in handcuffs.”

Ms. Pirro named, among others, James Comey, the former F.B.I. director (“so political, so corrupt”); Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s deputy director, apparently in the tank for Hillary Clinton; and Peter Strzok, a top counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller removed from the investigation after learning of private text messages he sent in 2016 criticizing Mr. Trump and praising Mrs. Clinton.

Topping her list of outlaws was, of course, Mr. Mueller, who she said “can’t come up with one piece of evidence!” Maybe she just forgot about the indictments and guilty pleas? Ms. Pirro, a former New York prosecutor and judge, didn’t allege any actual crimes, just that Mr. Mueller and his people are guilty of “attempting to destroy Trump.”

It would be one thing if Ms. Pirro were only spouting off on television. But she is a friend of Mr. Trump’s and has met privately with him and his top advisers to sell her half-cocked theories. After Mr. Trump’s victory last year, she interviewed to be his deputy attorney general, a job that would have empowered her to fire Mr. Mueller on her own.

To put it mildly, this is insane. The primary purpose of Mr. Mueller’s investigation is not to take down Mr. Trump. It’s to protect America’s national security and the integrity of its elections by determining whether a presidential campaign conspired with a foreign adversary to influence the 2016 election — a proposition that grows more plausible every day.

If the president’s supporters are upset about how close that investigation is getting to the Oval Office, they should ask not whether any F.B.I. investigator has ever held an opinion about politics, but rather why Mr. Trump chose as his closest advisers people with a tendency to talk to Russian officials and then fail to tell the truth, again and again, about the nature of those communications. As The Times’s Bret Stephens wrote: “Fire? Maybe not. But we are dying of smoke inhalation.” (Mr. Trump’s defenders might also recall that the president himself prompted Mr. Mueller’s appointment when he fired Mr. Comey, who had been overseeing the Russia investigation.)

When the propagandists say, “Get rid of Mueller,” it’s not the truth they’re trying to protect; it’s Mr. Trump himself. Any genuine interest in objective reality left the building a while ago, replaced by a self-sustaining fantasyland. If it’s hard to understand how roughly three-quarters of Republicans still refuse to accept that Russia interfered in the 2016 election — a fact that is glaringly obvious to everyone else, including the nation’s intelligence community and Mr. Trump’s secretary of state, Rex Tillerson — remember that a majority of the same people continue to believe that President Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

There was a time not too long ago when Republicans in Congress seemed genuinely interested in protecting Mr. Mueller — who, it bears noting, was originally appointed to head the F.B.I. by George W. Bush and who was named special counsel by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, also a Bush appointee. But Fox’s alt-reality vortex has sucked in previously levelheaded members of the G.O.P. like Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina senator who said as recently as October that there would be “holy hell to pay” if Mr. Trump tried to fire Mr. Mueller. Last Friday, Mr. Graham tweeted in support of “a Special Counsel to investigate ALL THINGS 2016 — not just Trump and Russia.” On Monday night, according to Axios, Jay Sekulow, one of Mr. Trump’s personal lawyers, called for a special prosecutor to investigate … the special prosecutor. The tipping point? An article on Fox News’s website about a top Justice Department official’s wife and her work for Fusion GPS, the research firm behind the so-called Steele dossier.

None of these attacks or insinuations are grounded in good faith. The anti-Mueller brigade cares not a whit about possible bias in the Justice Department or the F.B.I. It simply wants the investigation shut down out of a fear of what it might reveal. But if your man is really innocent, what’s the worry?
hightor
 
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Wed 13 Dec, 2017 03:31 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Gee, Finn, I think that's the first time I've ever seen anyone gloat over losing an election.
Quote:
How does that square with your supercilious assessment of the citizens of Alabama?

First thing, it only says anything about the voting citizens of Alabama. And what the results tell me is that nearly one out of every two voters chose a lying bible-thumping fossil to represent them in the Senate. What else is there to say?
farmerman
 
  5  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 03:33 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
How does that square with your supercilious assessment of the citizens of Alabama?
.

Hardly supercilious. There was only the slimmest of margins that declared Jones the winner. Almost half the voters of Alabama, all good Evangelicals,still would rather have had a child molester become their junior senator than a pro-choice democrat. The other half that elected Jones, we
bless the fact that they walk upright.

Builder
 
  -4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 03:33 am
@hightor,
Fook me droonk!
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Builder
 
  -4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 04:00 am
@hightor,
Quote:
I think that's the first time I've ever seen anyone gloat over losing an election.


You might need to get out of bed a bit earlier, Hi.

Quote:
....what the results tell me is that nearly one out of every two voters chose a lying bible-thumping fossil to represent them in the Senate.


And yet still a clear 40% think he's doing a standup job. What does that tell you about education levels across the plateau?
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blatham
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 05:22 am
Make America Great Again
Quote:
BRUSSELS — President Trump routinely invokes the phrase “fake news” as a rhetorical tool to undermine opponents, rally his political base and try to discredit a mainstream American media that is aggressively investigating his presidency.

But he isn’t the only leader enamored with the phrase. Following Mr. Trump’s example, many of the world’s autocrats and dictators are taking a shine to it, too.
NYT

You know that you have a great national leader when a range of the scummiest heads of state around the world begin using your propaganda weapons.
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edgarblythe
 
  1  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 05:44 am
One reason the Republicans own the south is because Democrats have conceded the territory even before most elections, in almost every case, calling the people of those states the worst sort of names, collectively, and campaigning elsewhere. There are votes to be mined, but you have to be a miner to mine them.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 05:45 am
Fox.
Quote:
“Laura, to your point, I think that this is going to embolden Democrats to use this issue, specifically against this president,” host Bret Baier said, addressing Laura Ingraham’s commentary earlier in the show.

“Yeah… if they’re able to take out a Senate candidate in Alabama with these allegations, as lurid as they were, what does this mean for the umpteen number of Democrats who will inevitably come forward to urge the president to resign, the constant re-airing of the old allegations that were aired last October — October 2016 — and putting this pressure, Brit, all the way to 2018 midterm elections, the war on women redux,” Ingraham said. “I think we see this all the way through 2018.”
TP

There's a great point there (in bold) from the Fox public servants. It points directly to the moral and intellectual principles which guide Fox commentary. One could say this is a laughable pretense but let's all remember how Fox has, over the last year, utterly refused to talk about Bill Clinton's sexual behavior or about the Clinton email issue or Benghazi.
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hightor
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 05:58 am
@edgarblythe,
I don't understand your thinking here. A majority of voters in the South are opposed to women's rights, unions, environmentalism, affirmative action for minorities, homosexual rights. I'm not making this up; the results of nearly every election show the majority of voters to be quite conservative. So you want Democrats to start campaigning to roll back environmental laws, deport illegal aliens, and bring back Jim Crow laws? How are you going to mine those votes?
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 06:11 am
This is too perfect
Quote:
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
The reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange (and his numbers went up mightily), is that I said Roy Moore will not be able to win the General Election. I was right! Roy worked hard but the deck was stacked against him!
3:22 AM - 13 Dec 2017
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edgarblythe
 
  1  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 06:13 am
@hightor,
You want us to believe nobody in those states has any common sense. You are writing off a lot of people, who likely see no sense in voting at all these days.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 06:17 am
Quote:
Molly Ball‏Verified account
@mollyesque
This is Patricia Gaines, whose father, a liberal minister, was driven out of Selma in 1961 by Klansmen on horseback. She went back to Selma for the first time today to drive black voters to the polls.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5teyiX4AEs8fJ.jpg
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blatham
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 06:19 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
You want us to believe nobody in those states has any common sense.
Of course, he doesn't, Edgar. He is speaking to something very real

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5y1tsWsAAdh3E.jpg
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blatham
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 06:31 am
Also perfect
Quote:
John Whitehouse‏
@existentialfish
1h1 hour ago
Fox & Friends host on Doug Jones winning in Alabama: "This was not a referendum on Trump. I feel like it was a referendum on Harvey Weinstein"
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