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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 08:53 am
@Lash,
Actually any investigation in any legal system is tainted - otherwise it would have got a different name.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 09:12 am
@Lash,
Thanks for the laugh anyway. People who think in melodramatic clichés crack me up. "Deep state ogre" sounds like it's borrowed straight from a Bielarus soap opera or some Mexican pulp fiction. Totally meaningless but brilliant!
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revelette1
 
  4  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 09:47 am
Paul Manafort ghost-wrote draft of op-ed with colleague thought to have ties to Russian intelligence (CBS NEWS)

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Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team says Paul Manafort and a Russian colleague were ghost-writing an English-language editorial about Manafort's work for Ukraine, and that colleague is "assessed to have ties to a Russian intelligence service," according to documents filed by the special counsel.

The government said in a brief that the ghost-written draft op-ed would constitute a violation of the court's order banning statements to the press. U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson has already reprimanded Manafort's attorney, Kevin Downing, for talking to the media after Manafort appeared in court for his indictment.  "This is a criminal trial, not a public relations campaign," she said in November.


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Lash
 
  1  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 09:58 am
@Olivier5,
He definitely has been discredited.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:10 am
@Lash,
Amongst your crowd of confused, melodramatic haters, perhaps?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:16 am
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:
I've read that Trump will signal his intent/desire on Monday to site the US embassy in Israel in Jerusalem. Is that correct? I see no mention of it on the BBC or Aljazeera.

My understanding is that he officially recognized Jerusalem as their capital, but did not move the embassy.

Moving the embassy would be a reasonable move. Jerusalem is after all their capital.
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Lash
 
  0  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:17 am
@Olivier5,
Think about the lawsuit.

Trump’s lawyers have the anti-Trump texts between two members of the FBI team, one of them, a primary and powerful lead investigator. He’s already been proven to falsify documents. He changed Comey’s language in the Hillary decision.

It’s a non-starter.

But, if you guys want to take that crap into an impeachment proceeding for a mistrial, go ahead.

Your FBI are total rogue **** ups.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:17 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
oralloy wrote:
You might want to remember that there is nothing even remotely wrong with them having contacts with the Russians.

Then why were such efforts made to hide the fact of these contacts? And if "collusion" is totally above board and proper, why does Trump repeatedly deny that it occurred?

Are you asking me to speculate?

Perhaps Trump wanted to claim that he won the election without any outside help. Sort of an ego thing.

Perhaps they were not actually lying, and all the allegations of lies are untrue.
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revelette1
 
  3  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:20 am
Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Goes To Bat Against FBI And Robert Mueller For Trump (HP)
farmerman
 
  4  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:24 am
@revelette1,
duhhh, WSJ how surprising.

I see its gone from "Trump didnt do it, " to "Even if Trump did it its not breaking the law"
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revelette1
 
  3  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:25 am
@Lash,
As though there is going to be an impeachment with this congress. At the end of the day, I am not sure where all this is going to lead, but I know it won't lead to impeachment of Trump unless by some miracle democrats take over congress. Then, you bet we'll take Trump down with the help of Mueller's investigation.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:27 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

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I wasn't necessarily specifying you as a leftie who is outraged by Putin. The vast majority of those who are are American Democrats.

Nobody should be outraged at Putin. He had an opportunity to prove the US democracy weak and its people stupid, and he seized it. It's incumbent on YOU to protect your own democracy. If you leave it wide open to foreign influence, some people are going to take advantage of that, and not just Netanyahu.

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Call me cynical, but I'm afraid I just don't believe that the Resistance's hue and cry about Russian interference is motivated much by a concern for the purity of our democratic process.

The Republicans and Democrats who resist the hostile takeover of the White House by Kremlin Inc. are doing the right thing. You seemed to agree that such resistance was useful. Are you now saying they do the right thing for the wrong reason? Cause for that I won't call you cynical, but a hard-to-please snowflake maybe.



Well, what will you call me if I state that I don't believe there was an attempted hostile takeover of the White House? You mock Lash because you perceive her Deep State Ogre comment to be melodramatic and then you refer to a relatively harmless attempt to interfere with our election as an ongoing hostile takeover of the White House.

The notion that Trump is Putin's puppet, installed by the Russian autocrat to betray America couldn't be more melodramatic, and it doesn't even have a basis in solid evidence. The so-called Russian Dossier got the Resistance all worked up because it seemed to tell them what they want to believe and represented a silver bullet with which to take out the monster who had cheated Hillary. Trouble is that the dossier doesn't even rise high enough to be considered melodramatic, it's a load of salacious calumny that all of the resources of the Resistance Media have yet to be able to verify.

Maybe Mueller will find evidence to prove what so many of you are desperate to believe, but I very much doubt that even a flipped Flynn is going to testify that Trump sold the White House (and US interests) to the Russians, particularly since no such transference has taken place and Putin hasn't lowered the boom. Are you going to argue like Blickers that there's still plenty of time for Trump to reveal what a traitorous puppet he is? If so I'll feel free to argue that it's just a question of time before Hillary Clinton murders Donna Brazille on 5th Avenue in NYC...there's still plenty of time!

In any case, until such time as the facts Mueller has discovered are known, a great many of you (and here I am specifically including you) are just indulging in a sort of mental masturbation; getting all worked up about every rumor and shifty story published by a news media that couldn't be more biased against Trump. Hey, if you enjoy it, stick with it, but I have to say I've grown a bit tired of the sanctimony that is so tied to the salacious.

BillW
 
  2  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 10:55 am
@snood,
Quote:
I won't call you horse's ass anymore because it might get me negatively scrutinized by management.


Still doesn't make it an less true, or that he is a White Supremacist / racist! He is a true mule, hee-haw.
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BillW
 
  3  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:00 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

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Mueller is likely over.

Wishfull thinking.


If it happened, it would be the end of tRump!
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Cycloptichorn
 
  4  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:01 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:


The notion that Trump is Putin's puppet, installed by the Russian autocrat to betray America couldn't be more melodramatic


Well, you're removing the actual argument being made and substituting it with a straw-man, so of COURSE it sounds melodramatic.

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and it doesn't even have a basis in solid evidence. The so-called Russian Dossier got the Resistance all worked up because it seemed to tell them what they want to believe and represented a silver bullet with which to take out the monster who had cheated Hillary. Trouble is that the dossier doesn't even rise high enough to be considered melodramatic, it's a load of salacious calumny that all of the resources of the Resistance Media have yet to be able to verify.


On the contrary, almost everything in the Dossier has shown to be accurate by now. Many reported pieces of information have matched up with what was written in the Dossier.

We don't know for sure how things will turn out, but the idea that Trump teamed up with the Russians to try and win in 2016 is anything but far-fetched.

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
  3  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:03 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Think about the lawsuit.

Trump’s lawyers have the anti-Trump texts between two members of the FBI team, one of them, a primary and powerful lead investigator. He’s already been proven to falsify documents. He changed Comey’s language in the Hillary decision.


He didn't change Comey's language to something Comey didn't agree with. Don't be a fool, Comey didn't go on TV and read something he didn't agree with.

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It’s a non-starter.

But, if you guys want to take that crap into an impeachment proceeding for a mistrial, go ahead.


There's no such thing as a 'mistrial' in an impeachment proceeding, it doesn't take place in a court of law. You really don't know what you're talking about here and are just sort of spouting off, aren't you?

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Your FBI are total rogue **** ups.


You don't even know the basics of what you're discussing, so you'll pardon my snort when I read this

Cycloptichorn
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:06 am
Lash is becoming delusional, just like her hero - tRump!
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Cycloptichorn
 
  4  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:08 am
Despite all the bloviating from some here about how the Mueller investigation is 'tainted' and 'over,' (Pro tip: it's neither), here's the real news of the day:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN

Mueller has gotten access to Trump's personal financial information at Deutsche Bank. This is a major escalation in the investigation, as there are a lot of threads that can only be connected by following the money. I also believe this is a critical step to unwinding the many layers of obfuscation he's placed over his business dealings, as while you can hide the ownership of a company, it's hard to hide when the investigators have access to where the money lands.

Trump is not only in danger of being revealed as to having a LOT of Russian financing (which is almost certainly true), he is in great personal danger of being caught in any number of tax and finance scams at this point.

Cycloptichorn
BillW
 
  5  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:22 am
Republican Party is now not only the party of racists, White Supremacists, Nazis, pu@@y grabbers and total nut heads but also, pedophiles. Sad, sad bunch of people! Guess it makes sense, it is the royal party, so I guess it is showing royal privileges and inbreeding.
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Lash
 
  1  
Tue 5 Dec, 2017 11:23 am
Rumblings of Comey’s immunity coming off the table... Seems dots from Strzok are being connected.

Exciting events!
 

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