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@snood,

Ahhh the old racist charge again.

When in doubt, resort to the cheap but comfortable accusation. Right old bird?

I think what makes me a horse's ass to you is that I don't afford you the deference you think you deserve and that I disagree with and disdain your insipid contributions to this forum

What makes me an actual horse's ass is that I keep taking you off ignore; thinking that sooner or later this guy is bound to write something of interest or substance. Instead, it's the same old snood same old: Outlandish hyperbole introduced with the usual "I don't mean to engage in outlandish hyperbole but..." Silly little games involving insincere questions which you like to think will snare those you question and provide you with some sad relief from the recognition of your inadequacy by casting yourself as a cat playing with mice. PMs filled with invective, and an intellectual deficit that leaves you always falling back on Old Reliable...racism.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

It's why I dubbed him 'snooze'.

Because the only way you can believe that crap, is if you're sound asleep at the wheel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhIxxvYtRE

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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I wasn't necessarily specifying you as a leftie who is outraged by Putin. The vast majority of those who are are American Democrats.

Nobody should be outraged at Putin. He had an opportunity to prove the US democracy weak and its people stupid, and he seized it. It's incumbent on YOU to protect your own democracy. If you leave it wide open to foreign influence, some people are going to take advantage of that, and not just Netanyahu.

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Call me cynical, but I'm afraid I just don't believe that the Resistance's hue and cry about Russian interference is motivated much by a concern for the purity of our democratic process.

The Republicans and Democrats who resist the hostile takeover of the White House by Kremlin Inc. are doing the right thing. You seemed to agree that such resistance was useful. Are you now saying they do the right thing for the wrong reason? Cause for that I won't call you cynical, but a hard-to-please snowflake maybe.

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@Olivier5,

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The Republicans and Democrats who resist the hostile takeover of the White House by Kremlin Inc. are doing the right thing.

From what I'm seeing, both R's and D's are taking money from anyone who waves it in front of their noses.

The problem here is not the Kremlin, but base greed, and the complete lack of oversight that comes part and parcel of a system based on personal gain (free-market capitalism) rather than national interest (socialist capitalism).

And when it comes to 'hostile takeovers' the US and their partners in crime (UK and AU) are past masters at the game.

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French President Emmanuel Macron has told Donald Trump he is "concerned" the US leader could unilaterally recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

Any decision on the contested city's status must be "within the framework of negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians", Mr Macron said.

Earlier, similar warnings came from a number of Arab and Muslim nations.

Reports say the US president will recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital this week.

Both Israelis and Palestinians claim the city as their capital.

The White House said Mr Trump would miss Monday's deadline to sign a waiver delaying the relocation of the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

But White House spokesman Hogan Gidley stressed that "the president has been clear on this issue from the get-go: It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when".

Every president, including Mr Trump, has signed the waiver every six months since US Congress passed an act in 1995 calling for the embassy to be moved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42232158

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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The whatabout camp? Which one is that?

Lately it's the opposite of the one you mentioned, which also exists. It's a common rhetorical device but it gets tiresome. No reason not to draw attention to it.

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And just who do you and revelette believe might be trying to justify Russian attempts to interfere with our elections?

I believe revelette was referring to those who defend Russian actions — or anyone's actually — by saying, "We do it too." That's who I meant.

Yes, I've critiqued your use of the tactic at times but I don't believe it was you I was thinking of in particular.

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@hightor,

That's all they say, they can't defend their own actions so they throw mud. It's the tactic used by schoolkids when they get into trouble.

It would never stand up in a court of law, just because Jack the Ripper got away with it doesn't mean all murderers should go unpunished. Similarly Roy Moore shouldn't be able to rape as many children as he wants just because Al Franken grabbed some woman's tits.

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@hightor,

But how insane is it to know we all spy and attempt to overturn governments, but rail against them doing it even as we do it??! It's psychotic!

Here's your country, Americans.

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/03/the-president-of-honduras-is-deploying-u-s-trained-forces-against-election-protesters/

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@Builder,

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when it comes to 'hostile takeovers' the US and their partners in crime (UK and AU) are past masters at the game.

Reason for which they ought to know better how to protect themselves from external interferences in their elections, but i guess they've been more accustomed to dishing them out than to being targeted.

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Looks like hyperHillary partisan Strzok fiasco is going to kill the Trump impeachment, shut down Mueller, and finally clean the dirty FBI and State Department of several of the corrupt Deep State operatives that covered for dirty Clinton crimes during Obama's tenure.

I can't believe Mueller fired him. Mueller must not be as corrupt as the rest of them.

Obama was in on it, too.

They'll be forced to re-open ALL Hillary investigations.

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@Lash,

If you can show that other countries, including our own, have conducted election interference to the extent that Russia has in the past several years I'll agree with you 100%. As it is, the USA's attempts to influence elections in other countries have been pretty anemic. A certain amount of lobbying and influence peddling by foreign governments is expected. What's not expected is for an opposition party in our country to be correlating its efforts with those of a hostile and meddling foreign power. The Mueller investigation will attempt to determine if this happened in 2016.

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@Lash,

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They'll be forced to re-open ALL Hillary investigations.

The Libyan one is what I'm interested in. As SoS, she conned the prez into a humanitarian "intervention" and had no backup plan after stealing the gold.

The end-game of that plan is playing out right about now.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Ahhh the old racist charge again.

When in doubt, resort to the cheap but comfortable accusation. Right old bird?

It's reliable in your case because you are the worst kind of racist, with that special blend of irredeemable ignorance and arrogance.

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I think what makes me a horse's ass to you is that I don't afford you the deference you think you deserve and that I disagree with and disdain your insipid contributions to this forum

Deference? Wrong. You're a horse's ass in your DNA. You'd be a horse's ass whether you engaged with me or not, whether you put me on ignore or sit on a tack. You're a big blaringly obvious horse's ass to many more on this forum than myself. You can't help it - it's all you know how to do.

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What makes me an actual horse's ass is that I keep taking you off ignore; thinking that sooner or later this guy is bound to write something of interest or substance. Instead, it's the same old snood same old: Outlandish hyperbole introduced with the usual "I don't mean to engage in outlandish hyperbole but..." Silly little games involving insincere questions which you like to think will snare those you question and provide you with some sad relief from the recognition of your inadequacy by casting yourself as a cat playing with mice. PMs filled with invective, and an intellectual deficit that leaves you always falling back on Old Reliable...racism.

Wow, those PMs must have stung - it's been over a year, and you're still whining. I don't care if you leave me on ignore. You're a disease germ on this forum who thinks he's a gem - it really doesn't matter what you say or do. It's fitting though, that you choose to defend this president - it makes your deficit of character and judgement even more manifest. I won't call you horse's ass anymore because it might get me negatively scrutinized by management. But you will doubtless work overtime to continue to brand yourself as such without any help.

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@hightor,

Mueller is likely over.

Our "anemic" foreign intervention is on stage in Honduras right now, if you'd care to read up. Probably a few other spots... God knows what fresh hell we're running in Iran and Palestine right now, but go back to your anemic soup. Nothing to see here.

Mueller: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/adriana_cohen/2017/12/adriana_cohen_smoking_gun_of_fbi_s_bias?amp=

The chickens are coming home to roost for Obama, Democrats, FBI, and my favorite pantsuit.

Waited a long time.

Thanks Strzok!!

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Sort of funny that you talk about us stuffing ballot boxes as the extent of our interference.

Here's how we do it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/27/us-honduras-coup

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Hilarious comparison to Russia diddling around on the internet, but I will say Putin has Saakashvili (sp) trapped in a van in Kyiv right now...

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@Builder,

I've got to update my reading on current Libya. Thanks.

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Walter,

I see you deleted your comment. Guess YOU decided to read up about what's happening with Saakashvili...

The latest.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/05/former-georgian-president-mikheil-saakashvili-is-detained-in-ukraine

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@Lash,

It has been in the news earlier here, but I didn't want to derail this thread even more. (The situation in Ukraine is interesting, and changing quite often, but not really related to the topic here)

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Another homage to that big, unwieldy ‘relevant contemporary events’...

And, goddammit, US and Russian intervention in other countries is pretty much what this thread is about.

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