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Olivier5
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:10 am
@Lash,
I don't care much for "first female president" and there are many other jobs in which one can make a difference, but she seems to have a good feel for issues, a heart in the right place, as opposed to Clinton's "where's-my-interest" approach to policy. I also like her geopolitics as described in the wiki entry shared by Set.
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:20 am
A primer on the term limousine liberal for know-it-alls who don't know so much:

When the New Deal Order first began to fall apart at the seams during the political and social upheavals of the 1960s, a New York City political apparatchik from the Bronx named Mario Procaccino won the Democratic Party’s nomination for mayor in 1969 after a nasty primary campaign. His foe, running on the Liberal Party line, was the sitting mayor, John Lindsay, once upon a time a Republican congressman representing the “silk-stocking district” (the wealthiest district in the nation, whose name derived from Teddy Roosevelt’s day) on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. In 1965 Lindsay had become the city’s first Republican mayor since Fiorello LaGuardia. Procaccino coined the term limousine liberal to characterize what he and his largely white ethnic following from the “outer boroughs” considered the repellent hypocrisy of elitists like Lindsay: well-heeled types who championed the cause of the poor, especially the black poor, but who had no intention of bearing the costs of doing anything about their plight. They were, according to Procaccino, who was then the city’s comptroller, insulated from any real contact with poverty, crime, and the everyday struggle to get by, living in their exclusive neighborhoods, sending their children to private prep schools, sheltering their capital gains and dividends from the tax man, and getting around town in limousines, not subway cars. Not about to change the way they lived, they wanted everybody else to change, to have their kids bused to school far from home, to shoulder the tax burden of an expanding welfare system, to watch the racial and social makeup of their neighborhoods turned upside down. These self-righteous folk couldn’t care less, Procaccino proclaimed, about the “small shopkeeper, the homeowner. . . . They preach the politics of confrontation and condone violent upheaval.”

Source:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4322883/limousine-liberal-history-excerpt/%3fsource=dam

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First used by a D against an R, but if the shoe fits, eat it.

And, do a little reading, will you, before pontificating and accusing? You seem Trumpish.
blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:24 am
@Olivier5,
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Clinton spectacularly lost the election,
What are you talking about? She lost the electoral college by 80,000 votes and exceeded votes for Trump by 2 million.
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so by now it should be pretty clear to any reasoning individual that she was a bad candidate: a heiress with more sense of entitlement than intelligence
She was not an heiress. Entitlement? Her adult life past her law practice was dedicated to civic engagement and there's no evidence that her attempts to establish a fair and inclusive healthcare system or her Senate tenure or her role at State were marked by laziness or inattention to duties. And to denigrate her intelligence arises from something in you which I frankly do not understand at all.
blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:27 am
Michael Gerson isn't insane. I find that rather refreshing.
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It is often difficult to determine if President Trump’s offenses against national unity and presidential dignity are motivated by ignorance or malice. His current crusade against sideline activism at professional football games features both.

Protests by players during the singing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” are misdirected, but their motivations are understandable. African Americans have a naturally complex relationship with a country in which 1 out of 7 seven human beings was once owned as property and robbed of his or her labor. A country with a founding promise that bypassed them. In 1852, Frederick Douglass asked how the American slave should respond to the Fourth of July holiday. “To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless. . . . There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States.”

Tough words, at least as challenging as a knee to the ground at a sporting event. And the end of slavery was hardly the end of oppression. We are a country where the reimposition of white supremacy following the Civil War involved not just segregation but also widespread violence. A country in which mass incarceration and heavy-handed police tactics now create a sense that some neighborhoods are occupied by a foreign force. A country in which wealth and opportunity remain, in significant part, segregated by race.
WP
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MontereyJack
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:31 am
@oralloy,
You've completely lost any mooring in reality.
Lash
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:32 am
Hillary and her entitlement #1.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/23/spike-lee-hillary-clinton-thought-she-was-entitled/
blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:33 am
And continuing on our theme of insane people...
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A Trump judicial pick said transgender children are proof that ‘Satan’s plan is working’
WP
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Lash
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:34 am
What Happened?
2. DNC staff: Hillary's arrogance (entitlement) caused defeat.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/the-run-2016/articles/2016-11-11/dnc-staff-arrogance-cost-hillary-clinton-the-election-vs-donald-trump%3fcontext=amp

I could do this all day.
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:36 am
@Lash,
I love the Washington Times. All we socialists love that paper. Bernie loves the paper too. Bold, independent thinking and a real, sincere affection at the paper for socialist ideas and goals.
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:41 am
Can't you feel the populism
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The president added that Puerto Rico is "billions of dollars in debt to Wall Street and the banks which, sadly, must be dealt with."

Oh. So more than half of the Americans on the island don't have safe drinking water, and after prolonged silence, Trump decided this would be a good time to emphasize to Puerto Ricans the money they owe to Wall Street.

Can't you just feel the populism?
Benen
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Brand X
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:51 am
@Lash,
She would probably be a good one, but I hope she doesn't run. She's Hindu, I don't want to relive the 'Obama is a Muslim' again. Somehow I think it would be made an issue and it would be ugly for no effing good reason.
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 06:55 am
So it looks like Graham-Cassidy isn't going to make the Sept 30 deadline. You gotta hand it to the GOP, they've been consistent in their failures to repeal the ACA and in their refusal to bother getting educated on the complex subject and also in their utter refusal to give a crap about Americans who are and will suffer. But these assholes are going to keep at it. Why?

1) Their perception that they have to score a big political win. Because if they can't and don't, they can't pretend with credibility to anyone that they are in a position of dominance. They will be, they think, politically emasculated which is, for many of them, the greatest sin of all
2) The Koch crowd has warned the GOP that if they don't get this done, funding (and activism) will dry up. Because now, in the present, this network controls the main machinery that gets Rs past primaries and elected, the threat has some teeth (even if this crowd is not going to support Dems nor any third party move).
3) the right wing media has broadly and loudly been demanding and expecting repeal for nearly a decade, that media universe can't easily shift gears and just drop the subject without the base (they've made increasingly insane) noticing.
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 07:12 am
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Never before have two leaders in command of nuclear arsenals more closely evoked a professional wrestling match.
Steve Coll at NYer

I think that's a very bright way to conceive of how Trump is behaving here. And pretty much everywhere else as well. But I would think it a bright idea because I've been arguing for a year that professional wrestling (and promotion of it) is precisely the mode that Trump constantly demonstrates.

First of all, there's the constant trumpeting of macho dominance rhetoric. There's the outrageous (and obviously false) claims that mark every aspect of the sport and the promotion of it. There are the ubiquitous presentations of (fake) dramatic grudges. There's lots of fat white men along with sexualized females.

What seems really key to me here is that the audience knows this is all bullshit. But the bullshit is why they buy their tickets. That's what they want. Truth isn't just unimportant, it is absolutely unwanted by that audience. And doesn't that look to match Trump's political supporters really quite closely?
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 07:24 am
This is important.
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How Matt Drudge became the pipeline for Russian propaganda
Drudge Report has linked nearly 400 times to RT, Sputnik News, TASS since 2012

...When the Kremlin’s interests converge with the right’s interests in undermining Democratic politicians like former President Barack Obama and former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, its outlets find prominent allies in the U.S. conservative media landscape. As Andrew Feinberg, the former White House correspondent for Sputnik News, has explained, the Russian media outlets are part of the “right-wing media ecosystem,” with their stories picked up and promoted by prominent far-right news sites like Breitbart.com and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ Infowars.com.
MM
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 07:29 am
Paul Waldman speaks to one common political notion/cliche which drives me around the bend. Read the full piece when you get the opportunity.
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...This is a core part of contemporary Republican philosophy, that whenever possible we should devolve power away from out-of-touch bureaucrats in Washington and send it closer to the people, to those at the state and local level who understand their citizens and can craft the best solutions for them. You've probably heard this idea articulated so many times that you don't even question it. But there are two problems: There's no evidence it's true, and Republicans themselves don't even believe it.

If you listen closely, you'll notice that Republicans always express this belief that states work better than the federal government without getting specific. What you won't hear is anything resembling evidence that on the whole, states actually do things better. It isn't that you can't find innovative state programs or effective state administrators, because you can. But you can find those things on the federal level, too. And there is precisely zero reason to believe that as a group states are more efficient, spend money more wisely, design better programs, or serve citizens better than the federal government does. The next time somebody says that they do, ask them how they know. If they say "It just makes sense," that means they have no evidence.
Waldman
Lash
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 07:48 am
@Olivier5,
There are a lot of things to like about her, I agree.
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Olivier5
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 08:29 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
What are you talking about? She lost the electoral college by 80,000 votes and exceeded votes for Trump by 2 million.

Still, to lose against a candidate as weak as Trump was spectacular, and proves how unappealing she was for many voters, including on the left.

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She was not an heiress.

Of course she was. She spent 8 years in the White House, remember? Her husband was Clinton the First, and she would have been Clinton the Second.

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there's no evidence that her attempts to establish a fair and inclusive healthcare system or her Senate tenure or her role at State were marked by laziness or inattention to duties. And to denigrate her intelligence arises from something in you which I frankly do not understand at all.

She voted for the Iraq war, for heavens sake. That was dumb. The use of a private server for government emails was dumb too. And what about vying for Trump to win the Repub. primaries? How shortsighted was that?

She's articulate, well groomed, well educated but she does not display much originality and little political sense of what's doable and what's not. Hence her failure on health care under her husband. She's venal, interested in money a bit too much, hence the Wall Street connection. And finally she's got no understanding of her own limits, and no leadership skills either. A leader does not flip-flop all the time depending on where the wind blows. Followers do that. And someone with a sense of her own limits would entertain a few contradictors in her entourage, a few guys who'd keep the conversation honest and help her control her worse instincts.

She lost against a total clown, a clown whom she wanted as her opponent. Remember that.
wmwcjr
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 08:32 am
@Lash,
My, how times have changed, Lash! I mean how greatly the political landscape has changed. I remember quite well when both parties had a left wing and a right wing. (I was a college freshman during the 1969 mayoral election in New York City.) It certainly isn't the way it used to be.

Today some people claim that the two major political parties have generally been the same for decades if not for centuries. Sometimes the motivation has been to come up with a deceitful political argument. (By the way, I speak as a political outsider now.)
wmwcjr
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 08:41 am
Pat Tillman’s widow criticizes those who ‘politicized’ her husband’s death following Trump’s anti-protest comments
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/pat-tillman-widow-don-politicize-husband-death-article-1.3521460
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Lash
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 08:48 am
@wmwcjr,
Times and parties have changed dramatically, as you say.

There have been some colorful personalities, particularly in NY politics. Must've been quite a show.
 

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