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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Frugal1
 
  -1  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 03:02 pm
@George,
Directly across the street from the WH, or maybe the capitol.
You will have to take it from here, and see what you can dig up.
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Debra Law
 
  2  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 04:30 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Isn't that something. Thoughtful of Stormfront to keep Herr Schicklgruber's work in the public domain.


OMG Blatham. That website is frightening. It screams out pure hatred of brown people, black people, and Jews.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 04:37 pm
@Debra Law,
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That website is frightening.

I'm sure. I've never visited it because I suspect it would be like licking the floor of a rendering plant.
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catbeasy
 
  3  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 04:39 pm
@georgeob1,
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In what way is Trump's rhetoric "vacuous" that wasn't matched by Obama? From a red line in Syria to hope and change, "If you like your doctor, you can keep him ... ; to a reset with Russia, and a shift to the Far East, it was all empty talk, devoid of accurate meaning or content.

There's vacuous and then there's Trump. There's emotional appeals and then there's Trump. Obama serves his masters as well as Trump does. Words, even if not intended to be followed by proper action, are important as well. They set an atmosphere, they embolden. They can be destructive or helpful. If you cannot see the difference in their rhetoric, the kind of world that is implied and added to on that psychic plane, I don't know what to tell you..

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The evidence suggests that part of Trump's success is that he pointed out some potentially disastrous elements of our present situation that resonated powerfully with existing public impressions, and proposed specific corrective actions for them. That's a far cry from "creating a disaster".

Every once in a while Trump would hit on something real. However, it was known to me that he would do nothing to change what he hit on. So, yes, he did scold politicians, correctly, sometimes for injustices/bad policies. But so much of his time was spent talking about: "how can you walk down a street in the ghetto without getting shot" or to that effect. Yes, he 'created' a world in disaster so he could offer himself as the savior. This simply isn't true though. The world is not 100% disaster, not even by a majority. But that cuts into his hyperbole and his 'offerance' of himself as redeemer.

As he pointed our numerous times: "Only he can save us". Really? Again, words matter..this is so obvious I cannot believe we have to defend this. It matters what I say in my household. I create harmony or discord by what I say and as a responsible adult, I should be clear and helpful with what I say. This micro doesn't go away because its now on a national stage human relations are the same no matter what our situation. Manners count. Conciliation as an option counts. In fact its even more important. All I can do is damage a family, Trump can damage a nation.

I would also like to know what corrective actions he pointed out that don't include war and banning religious groups and the like. His policies have no nuance, they reflect the intellect of the man..

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So far it appears he means to do what he said

I just don't know what to say about you believing this..

The bottom line for me is that Trump is a typical politician, but on steroids. He is the embodiment of a party (the business party) that sacrifice all on the altar of money. If Hillary won, its business as usual, but at least some people who don't have economic power have the potential for a break. With Trump that potential goes further down hill.

In psychology/sociology, this man is a known quantity. It is true that other politicians are similar but they hide it. Trump comes out and wears his psychopathology on his sleeve. There's gradations of danger in politicians, Trump screams to us how dangerous he is and I believe, at first, was shocked by how many people bought what he was selling. If you turn off the sound after he states stupid stuff and watch his reactions, you can see that he's looking at people sideways as if to say "You're actually applauding me for this?"

There is nothing I've seen in this man that shows empathy, sympathy, a good heart. Everything about him is against this. His words, his vicious tweets. Its silly to say all I care about is how he does with the economy. Whose economy? The same one that the rest of the politicians prop up!

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I believe the recent campaign amply illustrated the vacuity of Hilary's plan and program which consited mostly of vague, non specific pandering to various groups, while Trump appears to have created his own new group by striking resonant chords with a frustrated public.

What is this? Hilary gets dinged by the vacuity of the plan, but Trump strikes resonant chords? I believe what you said about Hillary and it goes without saying what you are saying about Trump. But that's just simple observation. You could also substitute Trump for your statement about Hillary (however, non-specific doesn't sound correct for either - they had a specific audience - I changed this below..)

I believe the recent campaign amply illustrated the vacuity of Trumps plan and program which consited mostly of vague, specific pandering to various groups.

Folks agreed to pick the scorpion up, don't be surprised when..
blatham
 
  6  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 04:39 pm
At this moment, there's a big wind coming off the ocean, hitting the bluff below our house and there are four eagles soaring in the updraft. They don't seem to be hunting, just having fun. Very loud chirping.

They are majestic. Clearly Canadian eagles.
Frugal1
 
  -1  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 05:08 pm
@blatham,
We respect Canadian eagles.
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 05:45 pm
Here's a patriot
video here
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georgeob1
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 05:49 pm
@catbeasy,
I believe you are attempting to read far to much into the mind and psyche of Mr. Trump and making speculations that reach far beyond any available evidence and which, perhaps conveniently, can't be verified. You are certainly entitled to these impressions and expectations - we all form them, almost without thinking about the process of doing so, or of how our own psyches influence the result. However we should stop short of declaring these insights as known truth - that is something that only future actions will reveal.

What we have now are Trump's words, and, as you noted, they are often blunt, brief and repeated in episodic bursts. Moreover they do indeed often involve hyperbole and vague exaggeration, often needing, and sometimes getting, subsequent amplification and modification. However, Trump's actions so far in assembling his team suggest a remarkable consistency with the policy directions indicated in those words. All of this suggests, for example a determination for action to limit/cancel excessive Federal regulations; reduce the size of several department bureaucracies; foster more local contrrol and parental choice in public education; enforce immigration law and control our borders; encourage investment in new economic enterprises, and, possibly through some new, as yet undefined form of public private partnership, stimulate a major investment in public infrastructure; and finally take a stronger leadership role in our foreign relations. That's not a bad or unneeded agenda.

By contrast Hillary's words generally consisted of vague non specific pandering to favored groups, and evasive Clintonian phrases about raising employmen, eliminating the income gap, advancing the causes on women and minorities, etc. I was left with little insight as to what she might actually do in office, as I think most voters detected.

I can think of few Presidents who were as divisive for the country as is Obama. By contrast Trump is reaching out to his opposition within the Republican party and to a lesser extent beyond it. He is selecting strong, independent deputies for his cabinet and top posts in the executive branch - something that in my experience is suggestive of a strong, confident leader ( weak internally conflicted neurotics, by contrast usually choose only followers of unquestioned loyalty, anf get rid of any who speak out or disagree ( any names come to mind here?)

It is still very early in the game and we have only indicators of what may follow: few facts. Not all of the hopeful indicators I have indicated will likely be fully expressed and the pace of external events can change things in unplanned, unanticipated ways. However the country is divided and directionless now. We are beset by foreign challenges in every direction including disintegration in the Middle east; a continuing wave of Islamist terrorism; new challenges in East Asia; a Troubled European Union confronted with growing threats from both the South and East; etc. Our national debt has risen from about 67% of GDP in 2008 to about 105% now, and GDP growth is slowing. Investments in new enterprises and the associated job creation are very low, and the income gap is growing as a result. Indeed it seems to me that some decisive action in the areas Trump has identified is required, that we're not likely to get it from the narcisist Hamlet occupying the White House now, and would be equally absent with Clinton.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 05:53 pm
So, what's the criterion Trump is looking for in his cabinet postings? Glad you asked.
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“He likes people who present themselves very well and he’s very impressed when somebody has a background of being good on television because he thinks it’s a very important medium for public policy,” said Chris Ruddy, chief executive of Newsmax Media and a longtime friend of Trump. “Don’t forget, he’s a showbiz guy. He was at the pinnacle of showbiz and he thinks about showbiz. He sees this as a business that relates to the public.”

“The look might not necessarily be somebody who should be on the cover of GQ Magazine or Vanity Fair,” Ruddy said. “It’s more about the look and the demeanor and the swagger.”
A Very Deep and Serious Man To Lead America To Greatness
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blatham
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 05:58 pm
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georgeob1
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:02 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

At this moment, there's a big wind coming off the ocean, hitting the bluff below our house and there are four eagles soaring in the updraft. They don't seem to be hunting, just having fun. Very loud chirping.

They are majestic. Clearly Canadian eagles.


Sounds like a beautiful scene.

We had a lot of steady (and much needed) rain last week that was followed by a front of cold dry air a few days ago. The last few days have brought chrystaline, clear air, unlimited visibility and bright warming sunlight. I was hiking up in the Marin Headlands ( tall, bald hilltops and forested valleys overlooking the north shore ot the Golden Gate} last Sunday and saw several eagles soaring and diving near the shore. Also a beautiful sight. Undoubtedly they have Canadian cousins.
blatham
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:06 pm
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A Republican congressman outlined the way he would like to see the health care system operate if Obamacare is repealed, as GOP lawmakers are promising. It is a brave new world in which parents would wait and think about it before bringing in their sick or injured kids for costly treatments.

The example Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-MI) gave in an interview with MLive.com was from his own experience when he waited until the morning after to take his youngest son to the doctor with an injured arm, because he did not want to waste money on an expensive emergency room visit. The arm, it turned out, was broken.

The Republican congressman explained to the Michigan outlet that he and his wife thought about taking their son to the emergency room, but they decided instead to wait and gauge his injuries the next day, to see if the
child’s arm improved. (It didn’t.) Huizenga sees this anecdote as a model for
how the process should work on a more systemic level.
What would Jesus do?
Oh for gods sake, shut up you whiny little wimp. You sound like your mother. Get a little bump and scream bloody murder. Be a man, dammit. Davy Crockett had his arms chewed off by a bear and then he built a log house the next day plus killed him some damned injuns. I'll buy you some pink underwear tomorrow.
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blatham
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:08 pm
@georgeob1,
For beauty, SF has this place beat all to hell.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:21 pm
Another Trump mouthpiece tries to cover up for the constant lies and incoherent thoughts voiced
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“No, no, no, no, don’t take him literally, take him symbolically,” Anthony Scaramucci told MSNBC. “See, it’s different.”
Geniuses as far as the eye can see
Yes, "literally" and "symbolically" are different. We see that now.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:30 pm
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
8:45 PM - 6 Nov 2012

That tweet and others related to this he wrote at the time have now been deleted. Because HONESTY.

Oh, and because symbolics. And non-literals.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:42 pm
@blatham,
They're going to twist the English language into another language.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:50 pm
Though my siblings and I never learned German, it was spoken around us regularly by my mother and all in her family. And as I had blonde hair and blue eyes, let me just say how absolutely delighted I am that Steve Bannon is pushing into Germany to forward the far right white nationalist movement there which as been absent far too long.

All that wonderful racial and ethnic pride was out of favor for 70 years and why? Because of political correctness.

Make Germany Great Again!
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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They're going to twist the English language into another language.

Yes. And that other language they are twisting it into is the one noted in my post just above.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:54 pm
@blatham,
Ya vol.
I visited the old Sony Center in Berlin. They now have a new one I wouldn't mind visiting.
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tony5732
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2016 06:58 pm
@catbeasy,
OK. I really liked what you were saying and it did make me think a lot.

"What about fat people? Could religious people refuse to serve fat people on the grounds that they are (presumed) gluttonous, gluttony being a sin and thus offensive to their Christian morality?

What about people who curse?

In the choices of whether or not the religious person chooses to exercise their 'moral' authority, what we have is selected attention. We can't do black people because that would make us look racist (at one time it was ok though - and we didn't serve them) and its not a choice (though what choice has to do with this, I'm still fuzzy on)..

We can't do fat people, because, Lordy! My ministers as fat as they come, he never skips a meal!"

God I wish I knew how to use the box thing. But my answer to you is yes, indeed they should be able to do that. It's not even necessarily about religious freedom at this point, but even freedom in general. I wish to live in a free society.

While I do understand what you are saying and allowing the "religious freedom " argument to do as one pleases can cross a fine line, allowing business owner to refuse service for all sorts of silly things, I'm OK with that line being crossed. The line should stop at gender/ race/ disability. Here's why.

It's not because I am racist, homophobic, or intolerant, I simply think that people should have the right to make their own decisions. Every time we allow our government to intervene and make another law saying what we can or can't do, we give up a freedom and the right to make our own minds with OUR stuff. I wouldn't want to allow people into my house because Uncle Sam said so, I don't want to allow someone in my car because Uncle Sam said so. Why should I be REQUIRED to provide a service for ANYONE because Uncle Sam said so? For me, it always comes back to its not Uncle Sams business.

So yes, if an owner wants to refuse service to fat people, gun owners, catholics, Christians, people wearing a buttoned shirt, KKK enthusiasts, politicians, NRA, police officers, people using naughty words etc, they should be able to do so. And they shouldn't even have to use religion to do so.

I will say gender/ disability/ race are a whole different category, because these are not decisions. Who you choose to sleep with belongs one paragraph up.

 

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