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Tue 5 Oct, 2004 09:45 pm
Edwards or Cheney?
cicerone imposter wrote:Tie; no winner or loser.
Maybe I should have put that as an option. Can I edit the poll?
Go back to your original post, click on Edit, and wolla!
Wake up LW. Where you been? Haven't seen you around the past week. I've been gone for a couple months. What's your excuse? LOL Nice to see you, tho.
ABC News telephone snap poll of 500 voters - On Air only as yet, so no link:
Winner
Cheney 43 percent
Edwards 35 percent
Tie 19 percent
I notice the online polls reflect a somewhat different appraisal. I suspect
The DNC email machine wrote:Dear xxxx,
We're two for two. Tonight, in Cleveland, John Edwards showed real strength and conviction -- he was in command of the facts and in control of the debate and a powerful advocate for John Kerry. The American people saw John Edwards as somebody who is ready, if neccessary, to be president of the United States.
Dick Cheney is totally out of touch with reality in Iraq and totally out of touch with the struggles of the middle class. This is nothing new to a man with a lifetime record of protecting the powerful and well-connected. He came across as smug, arrogant, mean and defensive -- but his trademark distortions and scare tactics didn't work. John Edwards refused to let him play the politics of fear and forced Dick Cheney to confront his administration's record of failure.
Americans are tired of growls and scowls from our leaders, and John Edwards and John Kerry offer America hope and optimism.
The Bush-Cheney campaign is already trying to spin the debate. I am here in Cleveland, right now, working to make sure that doesn't happen. Tonight my job is going to be a lot easier than my Republican counterparts for three reasons. First, John Edwards is our candidate for vice president, second Dick Cheney is theirs, and third I know that you are going to join me in this critical fight.
Here is what you can do:
1) Vote in online polls
The Bush-Cheney campaign has asked their supporters to vote in online polls. Don't let them distort the polls like they distort their record.
CNN
http://www.cnn.com
MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com
ABC News
http://www.abcnews.com
CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com
Also check you local newspaper and TV station's websites for online polls.
2) Call into talk radio
http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout 3) Write local newspapers
http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout John Edwards clearly won on stage tonight -- let's make sure he wins against unrelenting Republican spin.
Sincerely,
Joe Lockhart Senior Advisor
has something to do with that.
Tomorrow's papers will be somewhat less laudatory of Edwards than the sycophantic partyline parrots, I'm sure.
(If you edit the poll to add "tie," I'd say after the two yada, yada, yaded for the first half-hour I was ready to tie one on).
I clicked edit on my origional post and the poll didn't come up, so maybe it can't be edited once someone posts. Oh well, no big deal.
LOL Lightwizard! I truly hear you. It was very difficult to keep myself from falling asleep.
MSNBC poll
now
Edwards 68
Cheney 32
Very interesting Timber. Thanks for the info ;-)
LW, Didn't know you had makings as a poet before today.
Cheney's drone could always work better than Ambien but Edwards should have been like a fast jolt of espresso and was more like a lukewarm cup of tea. Part of that could be shackling Edwards to a table while Cheney seems like he's standing still when he's walking anyway.
Joe Nation wrote:MSNBC poll
now
Edwards 68
Cheney 32
YOU #@*$&@! you beat me to it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/
Don't show this to timber, he won't sleep tonite. LOL
Ok, so far my poll is 70% in favor of Edwards and 30% in favor of Cheney.
I usually don't think much of polls, but I'm always curious.
Joe N and R, What reasons did the people say why they thought Edwards won this debate?
'Bout the only thing On Line polls are good for is entertainment, and the political On Line polls aren't even good for much of that. As soon as one that is nationally topical pops up, the alert goes out on the partisan blogs and forums of both sides ... generating absolute cascades of breathless accounts on each relating the progress being made and exhorting the warriors to ever greater effort. Amusingly, for the first Presidential Debate, the "I think Kerry won bigtime" emails started arriving at various newsrooms several hours before the debate began. A couple columnists remarked that the wording of hundreds of the "Kerry won" emails and faxes were identical ... right down to miss-spellings and errors of grammar, useage, and punctuation. Dunno if the same thing happened this time ... I understand there was a caution against it, but If so I missed the email.
And I'll sleep just fine, but thanks for carin', c.i.