Kerry wiped the floor with Bush

georgeob1 wrote:

... (one of the best was "I know what it's really like to serve on an aircraft carrier" - when in fact he has never in his life even been on one.) ...

I don't know, if this is true [I've been on one, so it should be that difficult :wink: ], however, he surely hasn't subscribed for a "Mission Accomplished-tour".

KERRY CLAIMS HE'S "NEVER, EVER" USED WORD "LYING" IN REFERENCE TO PRESIDENT BUSH ON IRAQ. JIM LEHRER: "New question, Senator Kerry. Two minutes. You've repeatedly accused President Bush, not here tonight but elsewhere before, of not telling the truth about Iraq. Essentially, of lying to the American people about Iraq. Give us some examples of what you consider to be his not telling the truth."

SEN. KERRY: "Well, I've never, ever used the harshest word as you just did." (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

BUT IN DECEMBER 2003, KERRY TOLD NEW HAMPSHIRE EDITORIAL BOARD BUSH "LIED" ABOUT REASON FOR GOING TO WAR IN IRAQ. "Kerry also told a New Hampshire newspaper editorial board Friday that Bush had 'lied' about his reasons for going to war in Iraq, a word Kerry has been reluctant to use publicly for months. Yesterday he said he did not plan to use the word again." (Patrick Healy, "Kerry Camp Lowers N.H. Expectations Behind In Polls, Senator Now Seeks Spot In 'Top Two,'" The Boston Globe, 12/8/03)

AND IN SEPTEMBER 2003, KERRY SAID BUSH ADMINISTRATION "LIED" AND "MISLED." "This administration has lied to us. They have misled us. And they have broken their promises to us. The president promised to the people and the Congress that he would build an international coalition, respect the United Nations' process and only go to war as a last resort. I will tell you that from my war fighting experience, I believe there is a test for a president as to how you go to war. And that test is whether or not you can look in the eyes of parents and say to them, 'I did everything possible to avoid the loss of your son and daughter, but we had no other choice in order to protect the security of our nation,' and I know this president fails that test in Iraq." (Sen. John Kerry, Campaign Event, Claremont, NH, 9/20/03)

He had been governor of Texas for awhile and that is a state with more population and area and economy and myriad issues than most countries.

He also promised America that he would go to war as a last resort.

Those words mean something to me, as somebody who has been in combat. Last resort. You've got to be able to look in the eyes of families and say to those parents, I tried to do everything in my power to prevent the loss of your son and daughter.

I don't believe the United States did that.

Almost every step of the way, our troops have been left on these extraordinarily difficult missions. I know what it's like to go out on one of those missions when you don't know what's around the corner.

And I believe our troops need other allies helping. I'm going to hold that summit. I will bring fresh credibility, a new start, and we will get the job done right.

I believe that when you know something's going wrong, you make it right. That's what I learned in Vietnam. When I came back from that war I saw that it was wrong. Some people don't like the fact that I stood up to say no, but I did. And that's what I did with that vote. And I'm going to lead those troops to victory.

I understand what the president is talking about, because I know what it means to lose people in combat. And the question, is it worth the cost, reminds me of my own thinking when I came back from fighting in that war.

And it reminds me that it is vital for us not to confuse the war, ever, with the warriors. That happened before.

ow, whether preemption is ultimately what has to happen, I don't know yet. But I'll tell you this: As president, I'll never take my eye off that ball. I've been fighting for proliferation the entire time -- anti-proliferation the entire time I've been in the Congress. And we've watched this president actually turn away from some of the treaties that were on the table.

Nuclear proliferation. Nuclear proliferation. There's some 600-plus tons of unsecured material still in the former Soviet Union and Russia. At the rate that the president is currently securing it, it'll take 13 years to get it.

I did a lot of work on this. I wrote a book about it several years ago -- six, seven years ago -- called The New War, which saw the difficulties of this international criminal network. And back then, we intercepted a suitcase in a Middle Eastern country with nuclear materials in it. And the black market sale price was about $250 million.

Frankly, I don't care where they were 30 years ago. I didn't care when Clinton ran, I don't care now. What I want to know is what has Kerry actually DONE while a senator?

Why hasn't he brought any of these tremendous ideas he has before the senate and try to get them acted upon? Why is that the only thing that I am aware of him doing is working with McCain on the MIA issue? 20 years and that's it?

Almost every step of the way, our troops have been left on these extraordinarily difficult missions. I know what it's like to go out on one of those missions when you don't know what's around the corner.

I believe that when you know something's going wrong, you make it right. That's what I learned in Vietnam. When I came back from that war I saw that it was wrong. Some people don't like the fact that I stood up to say no, but I did. And that's what I did with that vote. And I'm going to lead those troops to victory.

I understand what the president is talking about, because I know what it means to lose people in combat. And the question, is it worth the cost, reminds me of my own thinking when I came back from fighting in that war.

And for all the rest of the parents in America who are wondering about their kids going to the school or anywhere else in the world, what kind of world they're going to grow up in, let me look you in the eye and say to you: I defended this country as a young man at war, and I will defend it as president of the United States.

How many times did you hear Kerry say "Well, when I was in the senate I did..." or "As a senator I..."?

Not once.

He referred to his Vietnam service repeatedly. So much in fact that it became funny.

How many of these do you suppose the RNC will come up with? I caught a bunch while listening. I bet there are a bunch more that I missed.

So why do we keep letting people who are not well intentioned develop nuclear weapons?

Finn d'Abuzz wrote:

When will you folks realize that discussing things is not the answer to every problem,

In some cases, discussing things is the answer. A smart person/country/organization realizes that solutions need to be tailored to the problem.

Frankly, I don't care where they were 30 years ago. I didn't care when Clinton ran, I don't care now. What I want to know is what has Kerry actually DONE while a senator?

Why hasn't he brought any of these tremendous ideas he has before the senate and try to get them acted upon? Why is that the only thing that I am aware of him doing is working with McCain on the MIA issue? 20 years and that's it?

Yes, and since my issue is with those who think it is always the solution, I fail to see your point.

There are several reasons why these scoundrels have been successful, but I'm somewhat surprised that you would consider that it all hinges on what "we" (The US) allow.

It's, at least, inconsistent when someone objects to the US acting as the world's policeman, but then blames them for not stopping a crime.

There is a big difference between a unilateral response and a unilateral military response.