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Cat Stevens Treated Like A Terrorist By US Government

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 11:10 am
Strangely enough, the US is letting in all sorts of terrorists who act against governments that we don't like.

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1364

Quote:
"If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist"
September 19, 2004
William Marina


While delegates to the GOP convention were congratulating themselves for their candidate's tough stand against terrorism, the Bush administration was creating an international incident?-little publicized in the United States?-by harboring a notorious group of international terrorists on U.S. soil.

Earlier this month, three anti-Castro Cuban exiles flew to Miami from Panama after serving four years in prison for "endangering public safety." They were arrested in 2000 for plotting to assassinate Fidel Castro by planting explosives at a meeting the Cuban dictator planned to hold with university students in Panama.

The average convicted terrorist does not just waltz past U.S. immigration authorities in this post-9/11 age of orange alerts, "no fly" lists and shoe searches. Senator Edward Kennedy reportedly gets stopped by airport authorities every time he tries to make a flight, allegedly because the "Kennedy" name appears on a database of suspects.

Only political influence exerted at the highest level could account for terrorists reentering U.S. borders without impediment, despite rap sheets extending back as long as forty years:

Pedro Rémon, sentenced to seven years for the bomb plot in Panama, pleaded guilty in 1986 to bombing Cuba's mission to the United Nations and later conspiring to murder its ambassador to the UN. A New York detective also fingered Rémon for the machine-gun murders of two political opponents.


Gaspar Jiménez, sentenced to eight years for the Panama bomb plot and falsifying documents, had previously served time in Mexico for the attempted kidnapping and murder of Cuban diplomats there. He was also indicted in Florida for blowing the legs off a liberal Miami radio talk show host in 1976. (The indictment was eventually dropped for insufficient evidence, even though the main witness passed several lie-detector tests.)


Guillermo Novo, sentenced to 7 years for the Panama terror plot, was arrested in 1964 for firing a bazooka at the United Nations, where Che Guevara was speaking. In 1978, he was convicted of participating in one of the worst acts of terrorism ever committed on U.S. soil, the car bombing in Washington, D.C. of former Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier. (The conviction was later overturned on a technicality, though Novo was convicted of perjury.)


A fourth Panama conspirator, Louis Posada Carriles, left Panama for Honduras. He is still wanted in Venezuela on charges of bombing a Cuban airliner in 1976, killing all 73 passengers. In 1998, in an interview with the New York Times from a hideout in Central America, Posada admitted taking part in numerous acts of terrorism, including a wave of Havana hotel bombings in 1997 that killed an Italian tourist. He said his violence was funded by prominent U.S.-based supporters in the Cuban exile community.
The release of these terrorists from Panama?-ordered by its outgoing president?-has caused a furor in Central America. Venezuela recalled its ambassador and Cuba severed diplomatic relations with Panama.

Honduras also protested. "I will . . . demand that the United States and Panama explain how Posada Carriles used a false U.S. passport," declared Honduran President Ricardo Maduro. "How did that airplane leave Panama with Posada Carriles, reach Honduras, and wind up in the United States?"

"We know we're dealing with important international influences," the president added.

Those influences no doubt include the fact that Posada was trained by the CIA in the 1960s in sabotage techniques, remained on the CIA payroll into the 1970s, and in the mid-1980s (after escaping from a Venezuelan jail) assisted the Reagan administration's covert supply operation on behalf of the Nicaraguan Contras.

Then there's the undeniable fact that Cuban exile terrorists enjoy strong political support in the swing state of Florida, thanks to organized lobbying by such groups as the Cuban American National Foundation. That explains why President Bush, in 2001, rejected the advice of the FBI and freed from INS custody two convicted colleagues of Guillermo Novo in the Letelier assassination.

Conservatives have long (and rightly) derided the glib phrase, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." The incoming Panamanian president, Martin Torrijos, likewise stood on principle when he rejected his predecessor's decision to pardon the terrorists, saying, "For me, there are not two classes of terrorism, one that is condemned and another that is pardoned. . . . It has to be fought no matter what its origins."

Three years ago, after 9/11, President Bush appeared to draw the same line in the sand. Addressing members of the 101st Airborne Division, he declared, "If you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist."

Today, Americans should ask whether those tough words were only rhetoric, quickly forgotten when political convenience dictates.



I expect us to attack ourselves any day now. Our ties to these gentlemen are more proven than any AQ-Iraq ones.

Cycloptichorn
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 11:12 am
Hey now! These are our terrorists. They will be accorded diplomatic immunity.
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 01:50 pm
In the selective amnesia that prevails in much of this thread, we forget how it has been our policy to set up petty dictators all around the globe in the non communist countries.

Islam hates communism. In that regard our policies have been effective.

It is interesting to see the Bush State Department make a Johnny Walker Lindh out of Cat Stevens. I made a remark earlier about how you wouldn't see a sufi volunteer to be a suicide bomber.

If someone wants to join the priesthood - I have no objection as long as they aren't holier than thou. Obviously the sanctions on Rushdie were not coming from sufis. But to suggest that Cat Stevens somehow was complicitous in plotting against Rushdie.

If our intelligence was not a failure in that region Stevens would have been operating as a mole. It doesn't sound like any effort was made to exploit that possibility.

Oh, well.

And the Co-Intel Pro was an FBI program. It wouldn't have been in the jurisdiction of those who hassle former pop stars living abroad. These days that task seems likely to be handled by a private contractor.

Spooky.

Morning has broken. It's a bright new day for fascism.
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 01:52 pm
Forgive me. I dropped a clause there:

To suggest that Cat Stevens was somehow complicitous in the sanctions against Rushdie is a long stretch.
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 01:53 pm
Who would argue knowing that the loss of a tongue could be the price?
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 01:57 pm
Thanks for another good article Cycloptichorn. It invites the question about who is benefitting from the continued failures of the war on drugs.

Or is a failure from the standpoint of the American mob now that they monopolize both cocaine and heroin globally?
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 01:58 pm
They'll close down a few pot clubs in San Francisco and say they're winning that one.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 02:21 pm
Why do I hear the sound of one hand clapping?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 02:25 pm
Have you heard cat stevens' music? He deserves to be treated as a terrorist.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 02:31 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Have you heard cat stevens' music? He deserves to be treated as a terrorist.


Well it did terrorize 'Harold and Maude', an otherwise very fine cult movie.

My question is, did he clear his voyage with US immigration before boarding the plane? If not, this whole story is much ado about nothing, despite my personal feelings on the subject.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 02:37 pm
cavfancier wrote:
My question is, did he clear his voyage with US immigration before boarding the plane? If not, this whole story is much ado about nothing, despite my personal feelings on the subject.


I'd thought, you can't go to the USA before doing such?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 02:45 pm
I would think so too Walter.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 02:46 pm
The question goes to this point: If he followed standard procedure and was then turned back, it is clearly prejudice.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 03:40 pm
And why is no one laughing at my joke viz

How many converts does it take to change a bulb?
Two, one to hold the ladder, the other to see the light.

It was a JOKE. You may laugh if you want to.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 04:45 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Okay, even if - why did the USA authorities not make this decision for his previous US-visits, before he boarded the plane or at least after he landed in Washington ?


I wouldn't have something to do with the election campaign, would it? Cat Stevens is well known. Dramatic headlines ensured. The homeland is safe from terrorists! This would go down a treat with a particular type of voter. :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 11:25 pm
Quote:
[...]
Islam was admitted into the country in May but Department of Homeland Security officials said they placed him on the no-fly list in July, barring him from entry, after government agencies received fresh intelligence related to what they said were his charitable contributions to groups with terrorist ties.

"Yusuf Islam has been placed on government watch lists because of concerns of ties he may have to potential terrorist-related activities," said Homeland Security spokesman Brian Roehrkasse. "More recently, the intelligence community has received information that further heightens this concern. Our job at Homeland Security is to act upon the information we receive through the intelligence community in order to keep those that might be of harm to national security out of our country."

Officials said they could not provide specifics on Islam's alleged ties to terrorists.

Messages posted on two Web sites devoted to the singer said Islam has opposed terrorist acts and spoken for peace. "He has vehemently and consistently criticized terrorist acts and has always advocated peace through his songs and his extensive humanitarian relief work" said a message posted on www.yusufislam.org.uk, which also noted that Islam has traveled many times to the United States.

Islam came to Washington in May for an interview with XM Satellite Radio and to perform for a studio audience on the "Artist Confidential" program, said Chance Patterson, a spokesman for the radio company.

On Tuesday, Islam, who lives in Britain, was aboard a London-to-Washington flight with his daughter when it was diverted to Bangor, Maine. Islam had been expecting to head on to Japan, a U.S. official said. His daughter continued aboard the United Airlines flight to Washington while Islam remained detained in Bangor by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials. Yesterday, Islam was flown to Dulles International Airport, where he boarded a flight for London.

[...]
Source


Having had a look at [air-route] maps, I now think that Stevens really was posed an imminent threat to US national security, since the flight was diverted more than 600 miles.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2004 12:08 am
i think we can all agree that it would best for Homeland Security and the rest of us to catch those on a watch list or suspected of being terrorists BEFORE they board the plane.

the absurdity of refusing entry to the US for a singer whose fame is derived from a song called "the peace train" shows how disconnected from reality are the busheviks.
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