Hillary the prostitute, Pay to Play

The problem with that cheesy is that more and more doctors are refusing to take Medicare or Medicaid patients and by the time I'm 70 I doubt seriously if Social Security will be solvent... and we can most certainly lay that right at the doorstep of the democratic party here in the United States.

People have been predicting that for the last forty years and it hasn't happened yet, or anywhere close to it. If Congress (BOTH parties) stopped raiding SS funds we wouldn't have a problem. If the GOP hadn't sabotaged the single payer aspects of Obamacare we wouldn't have a problem. Do al little research in wourld health care systems, gooey. Ours sucks because it isn't.

Oh pluhleezze cheesy... Obamacare is a failure because it lacks public support first and foremost buy a huge majority. Obama promised that you could keep your plan keep your doctor and your premiums would be lowered...all lies and the Dems knew that before Obamacare kicked in... not allowing competition in crossing state lines didn't help either. Insurance companies are businesses and it's all about risk and telling them they have to accept somebody who has a pre-existing condition is just foldero;l a blueprint for failure if you're in the risk business. That's like saying I can crash my car and then go buy car insurance to have it fixed... only liberal socialist Democrats would think that this is something that would work.

I am glad that you were able to get insurance and that your lives were not ruined by unfortunate conditions.

Not trying to be wise-assed or anything like that, but why didn't you have health insurance before Obamacare? What was it about Obamacare specifically that enable you to get insurance?

Where in any of my posts did you see me say I dident have insurance before Obama care? My previous insurance cost me $450 a month from a private insurance company. After I went to Obama care, since you all insist on calling it that, my premiums went down to $270 a month plus of course my monthly medicare costs which I had to pay before. So I have had insurance all my life but find it cheaper under government than private insurance where I have to pay a premium of $180 for the privilege of making some CEO richer.

Ok, so Obamacare or the ACA (whichever you wish to use) made your rates cheaper by buying from the exchange? Is that the only thing the the ACA did for you?

If you had read my post you would have seen that it saved me $180,000 and kept me solvent. At 81 I havent the health to work at being a greater at Walmart for the big bucks they pay for such work. Hate the ACA if you want too but I love it and am willing to bet I'm not alone.

No, having health insurance saved you $181,000. Health insurance has been around paying peoples medical bills long before the ACA.

What I am asking, and I did read your post, is what was it about the ACA that allowed you to use it?

Was it a pre-existing condition your helth insurance didn't cover?
Was it a new insurance plan nor previously available?
Was it just a cheaper monthly premium?

See, I am one of those that hate the ACA because all it did was line the pockets of insurance companies with tax money. It has not panned out to be what it was meant to be. It should have been a single payer system that all Americans would have WANTED to join.

Why is any of this your business?

You're just going to use it as ammo when you talk to Rabel and try to beat him down about supporting the ACA.

You'll cherry-pick the items that support your narrative, while leaving everything that conflicts with your worldview on the cutting room floor.

McGentrix for once makes sense; re Obamacare


Which was Obama's intention. AND WHO PREVENTED IT FROM BEING THAT. THE PARTY OF NO. THE GOP.

How about you go and enjoy a nice Cleveland Steamer and stay out of the conversation.

That was never Obama's intention.

There are a great many psychopaths in public office today, that goes without saying. It's cliché. If there were digital video proof of every criminal act by these psychopaths there legions of dedicated drones would still deny them as factual. Candlelight8

Awww.... did I spoil your game?

Not at all. I am genuinely interested in hearing about a first person account of ACA actually helping someone. There are not a lot except for people with pre-existing conditions or unable to afford insurance before the ACA was created.

You just can't handle that I might actually care because that goes against some sort of preconceived notion that you have of me. Instead, you just want to continue being as big an asshole as you possibly can be. Have a ball dude.

My notions about you are hardly preconceived....

Advising someone to carry less insurance could end badly, once in awhile. Still, I had a stroke in February. Spent three days in our medical hospital, ten days in rehab hospital, and uncounted 'follow up' medical appointments. After all medicare payments and deductions, my total billings were *$1875. If I were carrying supplemental or ACA insurance, the premiums would have been high enough that I would have lost money by being insured. Other instances might have worked out badly, but that is my personal experience.

*The $1875 excludes new prescriptions, but most of those have been taken over by the VA.

mcGentrix says:

Yes, McG, it clearly was his intention, as explicitly stated in speeches. Feel free to google them. Faced with unyielding stonewalling by the GOP, he ended up proposing a system based on Romneycare in MA (which has as I understand it worked pretty well,,I aged out into Medicare myself, so speak as an onlooker), which was in turn based closely on a plan by the uberright Heritage Foundation--Obama thought wrongly the GOP, given the plan's origins, would have a hard time saying no. The GOP was more iunterested in seeing Obama fail than in helping Americans get adequate medical care, so they stonewalled even the Republican-inspired plan. In MA as I understand it, by the state constitutional law, you either have to have insurance with reasonable costs or you have to pay a penalty if yu don't want one of the state-approved plans. I believe we have the highest rate of insured people in the country as a result. If your risk pool is big enough, a competent insurance company can make money while covering pre-existing conditions, and that makes the MA risk pool big enough. As it is in the single-payer countries, which are all the rest of the developed world except us.

He isent about to beat me down. I know Mc g from way back and have had enough of him. I know what he intends to do but he is going to have to do it to someone else. Ive had enough of his lying shyt and will not post to him again on this subject. ACA is the greatest thing to come along since chocolate ice cream and spout off all you want to Mc G.

How in the hell did you get away with $1875 for a 13 day stay in hospitals? For 6 days in a hospital for a heart condition it cost me more than $20,000 $1000 of which I had to pay. My insurance cost me $3,240 for the year. If you have access to the VA I can understand why you dont have insurance. Was your stay in VA hospitals? I and most others dont have access to the VA.