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Click to save the rainforest (#52 - Down but not out)

 
 
HofT
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 06:54 pm
Stradee - this isn't a political question. On the day the oceans die we're gone also, not only our marine mammal relatives.

Btw, I invited Blatham from another thread and hope he'll show up. I don't know what Canada's position is on the new sonars but worry they'll want to follow the Brits and buy them too. Of course, we're the ones selling them - never mind Norton, this is life and death for all of us.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 07:11 pm
Hottie, Bernie hugged in just in front of your post.

Good to see ya, blatham!
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 08:03 pm
Hottie Smile and hi ya Blath! return hugs

Yep, unfortunately until the worlds leaders understand a healthy enviornment sustains life, it is a political question.

Instead of research and development of reusable energy, oil is the prime directive of the economy throughout the world. Industry toxins, the destruction of the rainforest, chopping down old growth trees, mountaintop mining destroying streams and wildlife habitat, overpopulation. Gosh, the list endless. There hasn't been one leader who's taken responsibility for cleaning up the enviornment - and now -
the current administration gives carte blance to industry for polluting - and the responsibility of cleaning up the mess are left to the people in the communities affected! How much sense does that make? Talk about enviornmental genocide!

Two thirds of the worlds oceans are beyond the juristiction of any land. Industral bottom trawlers from a few nations are mining the seas -
without anyone holding them accountable.

Helen, if we can't enact and inforce laws protecting the enviornment, what will stop or at the very least slow down the destruction. We certainly cannot trust industry to regulate itself. Nor the Navy for that matter. Our concerns are not unfounded.

Blath, good seeing you here at the rainforest! Helen mentioned the flu virus and I'm also curious as to how Canada reacted to the U.S petitioning Canada for surplus (?) vaccines?
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 08:10 pm
oops, and the sonar question in Canada also.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 09:10 pm
Just like some of y'all, I had to turn my email updates on again. Wasn't getting any. That's not true for all the threads, just this one and a couple of others.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 09:11 pm
Just like some of y'all, I had to turn my email updates on again. Wasn't getting any. That's not true for all the threads, just this one and a couple of others.
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Matrix500
 
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Reply Thu 21 Oct, 2004 09:29 pm
Hi...

Interesting discussions going on in the Rainforest the past couple of days.

Tomorrow, the papers for the sale of my m-i-l's house get signed, then we have to wait for a second loan that the buyers have taken out to finish being processed (it's already been approved, just have to wait for the papers to be pushed around a bit) then next week, if all goes as planned the sale will close. Still have more properties to sell and a few accounts to bring into the Trust, but the big thing, the house, is within sight of the finish line. FINALLY! I couldn't post much yesterday because the s-i-l from hell was spending much too much time on the computer e-mailing everyone with her complaints and threats. Lawyers will hopefully deal with her in the future so we don't have to any more. Grrrrrrrrr!

sumac...
It's good to see you back. Hope that means you're feeling better.

and, blatham...
It's nice to see you here. We have a great group of people who post on these threads, so I hope you'll stick around!



Just to keep you up to date...

St. Helens Lava Dome: The Size Of The Carl Vinson... Almost

October 21, 2004

VANCOUVER, WASH. - The new lobe on the lava dome at Mount St. Helens has grown to about the size of an aircraft carrier.

After getting a good look in the crater of the volcano in Wednesday's clear weather, the U.S. Geological Survey says the new extrusion is about 900 feet long, 250 feet wide and 230 feet high. (For comparison, the USS Carl Vinson is about 1,100 feet long, 200 feet tall and 260 feet wide.)

more with pictures:

http://www.komotv.com/stories/33613.htm

http://www.kirotv.com/mountsthelens/index.html
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 05:28 am
Yes, thank you, I am feeling better. With this damned disease I have to be very careful. In the end, it will probably be pneumonia that will do me in. Bernie, I need a flu shot. Please send.

Yes, this has been a very interesting discussion, and I regret not being in on it from the beginning. I was going to be an oceanographer (before I got side tracked onto psychology), and once did a research paper on the research then being done (partly funded by the US Navy (DOD), of course) on dolphin intelligence and communication abilities.

Great info on Mt. St. Helens, and I have added the webcam to my desktop. Of course, the dome could grow to be huge, and still not erupt, just cool down until next time.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 07:44 am
Matrix, thanks for the update re Mt. St. Helens. I've been out of the computer loop for a few weeks and haven't had occasion to check the news. How's the oil spill developing? Has the Coast Guard found those responsible for the damage yet?

Good news regarding Trust and M.I.L property selling! You and Mr. Matrix deserve a nice vacation away from the family soon as the property settled. Smile

Sumac, hang in there! Smile

All clicked
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 08:08 am
clicked!
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wordworker
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 08:44 am
No post. Rainforest gremlins afoot. I keep getting the "log in" page when I try to post. Going to the garden to eat worms.
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wordworker
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 08:46 am
Oh, NOW it works.##*@@*%!!!!!!!
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Aa
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 11:28 am
Good Earthturn, Rainforesters,

I clicked today, and I've been clicking all along.
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jeanbean
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 11:45 am
I installed sp2 over the weekend, and ever since clicking on a link doesn't work half the time.
a2k is just one of these...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 12:00 pm
This might happen, jeanbean, due to the new firewall, you installed with SP 2 - perhaps you'll have to click on a small line on top of the open window. (Can't remember what it says, actually. :wink: )
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just susan
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 01:29 pm
Hi all, I lost updates again. I seem to always be two pages behind.

Welcome, Blath and hello to you returnees who don't know me.

Matrix, good news about the house sale closing soon. Hooray!!!
I don't know if you've thought about trying this, but on a recent inheritance, we actually received three payments. The preliminary one (about half) was just to get some cash into the hands of those who needed it desperately, then the other half came later when the estate was all settled. A bit had been held back for taxes, etc, so when all was finally settled, a third check arrived (a small one) with the tax forms, etc.
Sometimes people will stop complaining once they get some cash to play with. At least they'll be distracted for a while.

I'm fortunate with my Dad's estate because he liquidated everything beforehand. All I have to do is pay the bills and divide what's left over.

Any of you out there who are thinking about what will happen upon your demise might remember Matrix's situation and prepare as much ahead of time as possible. In fact, my husband and I need to bring our wills up to date-- so much has changed recently.

And here's something some of you may not know-- If the deceased is a veteran, the VA will pay for their burial in a National Cemetery. they provide the plot, the headstone, the ceremony and all. They even paid for two thirds of the cremation cost. That was a nice surprise.

Sorry to get off onto such a dreary subject, but these are real things that have to be dealt with eventually and the more we know about it the fewer regrets we will have later. I sincerely home no one else on this thread will need this info for a long, long time. Smile

Sending get well to those of you with the bug and stay well wishes to the rest.

I'm gonna go click now.
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just susan
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 01:35 pm
OK, all clicked.
Did you catch the "Monster Slash"?
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HofT
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 05:49 pm
Hi Susan, and no - what's "Monster Slash"? Posting quickly to welcome Walter to thread - he's an absolute wizard with links!
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jeanbean
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 06:02 pm
Walter,
It's a link in my email client.
I have 50+ messages in the inbox.
Nothing new, as I have had a lot of messages,
till one day, that I decide to
DELETE all those messages.
It usually happens when I approach 70.
Maybe, tomorrow?
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just susan
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2004 06:10 pm
HofT,
I saw Monster Slash on the Care2 home page. It just popped up for me and started playing, but I see there is a big red rectangle with a black bear in it.

After you've done your regular clicking, give it a click for some entertaining propeganda. It was a pleasant surprise
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