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How will Trump handle losing the election?

 
 
FreedomEyeLove
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2020 03:47 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
stupid


You are very correct. Leftists are stupid.

Leftists are also genocidal; specifically communists are. Mao and Stalin killed waaaaaaaaay more people than Hitler did.
Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2020 12:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
But, we don't have a right to know.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2020 06:51 am
@FreedomEyeLove,
No, what's stupid is saying Mao and Stalin killed people because they were communists. Why couldn't it because they were men or non-English speakers? Because those two attributes have way more evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2020 02:12 pm
@hingehead,
It always seems to be leftists who mismanage their societies into economic oblivion and then turn their guns against anyone who speaks out against their mismanagement.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 01:00 pm
@oralloy,
forgotten w. bush and the worldwide Great Recession so soon? And Obama who got us out of it (hint: Democrat).
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 01:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
its all the donuts . They think of creme filled donuts as nutrition and brain food.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 01:28 pm
@MontereyJack,
Bill Clinton was the president who deregulated the financial industry. W had nothing to do with the lax financial standards.

Barack Obama murdered Pontiac.

Rest in peace, Trans Am.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 02:45 pm
@oralloy,
all clinton did was sign the bill which was the gop's brainchild and desire for decades. W. had everything to do with lax enforcement and gutting the regulatory agencies and lookmg the other way as the private financial institutions wrote sketchy mortgage after sketchy mortgage, thinking bundling mortgages protected them if a couple were bad, the good ones would save the whole, not realizing what would happen if the bulk of sketchy mortgages proved greater than the sound ones.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 02:50 pm
@oralloy,
Obama saved GM from foundering. Ossified GM management killed pontiac and Olds, not Obama. Muscle cars were always a niche market, not particularly profitable. Should have bought one when you had the chance, because you guys didn't in enough numbers, it died.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 03:04 pm
@MontereyJack,
The Trans Am was always a big seller and brought in lots of profits.

The popularity of the Camaro when it was brought back in 2010 shows that the market is plenty large.

Mr. Obama is a traitor, plain and simple.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 03:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
No one made Bill Clinton sign that bill.

Bill Clinton is responsible for his own presidency.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 05:29 pm
@MontereyJack,
GM has been sipping in profit since Obma left office. If it werent for pickup qnd SUV's GM would be gone the way of NASH.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 05:48 pm
@farmerman,
Ford is transitioning to pickups and SUVs too. Ford is going to build their last sedan ever in a couple weeks.

Last sedan scheduled for July 21st:
https://fordauthority.com/2020/05/ford-fusion-production-scheduled-to-end-in-july-exclusive/

Deadline extended to July 30th:
https://fordauthority.com/2020/06/ford-fusion-lincoln-mkz-production-extended-slightly-exclusive/


But Ford still builds Mustangs as well. Barack Obama was never given an opportunity to murder the Mustang.
Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 05:52 pm
@roger,
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Somehow, I think he can avoid any debate and it won't hurt him with his supporters at all.


You mean like Biden is doing now?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 06:09 pm
@oralloy,
when did Obama take a hammer to a muscle car??? The market is what the market is. FORD has always been the leading pickup sales leader in US. Where do you get the "Ford is transitioning to SUV's and PICKUP" the buying public that wants cars will be buying mostly AUDIS and Jaand Korean cars. Weve always made **** passenger cars that die young, rust out and are poorly engineered.
It took em 50 years to learn this with the Corvette. Its lately become a better built and designed sports car . You can still buy aspirated engines (ALthough I dont know why anyone would want such a buckboard).

Corvette is , after all the design changes , still a niche car like all the other sports wagons.
The market has become pickup and SUV driven ever since the Cherokee became an item on the late 80's when Jeep was run week to week by the bowling ball compny.

American car mfrs need to learn how to plan for the long term and arriving markets (like e cars)
FORD once led the way in hybrids and E cars early on--till they decided to trash em in 2013 all because of their "Quarterly performance business model", NOW theyre returning to that market as if they thought of it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 09:19 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
when did Obama take a hammer to a muscle car???

Barack Obama murdered Pontiac in 2009.

Never forget. Never forgive. Tarnish his name for the rest of time.


farmerman wrote:
Where do you get the "Ford is transitioning to SUV's and PICKUP"

From the news reporting about Ford ending all production of all sedans.

Ford will build its very last sedan ever on July 30th.


farmerman wrote:
Its lately become a better built and designed sports car.

Not really. By putting the engine in back of the driver, they had to forego a manual transmission. The C7 was the last worthwhile Corvette.

Camaros and Challengers are the last worthwhile cars being made now.


farmerman wrote:
Its lately become a better built and designed sports car. You can still buy aspirated engines (ALthough I dont know why anyone would want such a buckboard).

Forced induction is useful for helping little girly engines overcome their shortcomings.

It's not necessary if your engine is already big enough for the job.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2020 03:12 am
@oralloy,
your "reality" is interesting (from your business interest POV).
Pontiac and Olds were doomed internally from the late 80's.
When these "badge designs " began swapping cladding and grills and other design ****, all the unique cars began looking alike and so sales suffered waay before the great recession.
There's a lot of Trump similarities with GM. They both were still kinda ossified in their thinking and before the great recession they still were living the "general Bullmoose" philosophy right until they almost tanked (all due to their inabilities to relaunch the designs that once made em great).

Trump, of course has always been the bullshit king of bad decisions, bankruptcy and stiffing contractors . HAd he been smarter he would have made more money by taking his " Fred endowments and bailouts" and merely purchasing Index Funds


The corvette has become a total design with great suspension and aerodynamics . If you REAAALLY want a 10 speed stick shift, Im sure you can always do it after- market the input shaft is still pretty much the same. The really fast cars are now all paddle shift. Even SUVs nowadays have abandoned granny grinds and none have turbo lags. Cars have evolved , we dont need to crank em to start em.
You were just born maybe 50 years too late, tech has moved on quite a bit.Looks and Performace isnt measured in cubic inches anymore, and marketing boys in some makes (like Audi) are listening more and more to customers.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2020 12:32 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Pontiac and Olds were doomed internally from the late 80's.

All Pontiac needed was for Barack Obama to not murder them.

Had they been allowed to keep existing, they would have sold a lot of Trans Ams in 2010.


farmerman wrote:
You were just born maybe 50 years too late, tech has moved on quite a bit. Looks and Performance isn't measured in cubic inches anymore,

If you like little girly engines, more power to you.

Little girly engines just aren't my thing.

BTW, make sure you get a look at that comet in our skies right now. It's worth seeing.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2020 02:04 pm
@oralloy,
so Obama was the designer who grilles and feders and side panels from other badges eh??

Boy we should impehed him for his playing Raymond Lowey
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jul, 2020 02:17 pm
@farmerman,
No. Obama was the guy who murdered Pontiac.
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