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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 11:03 am
Dean looks better and better everyday! I almost feel like it is a third party candidate - reminder of Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 12:13 pm
I'm hoping we get a third party out of this eventually. At the very least we need a complete remake of the Dem leadership.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 12:30 pm
Karl Rove seems to think that Howard Dean would be easy for George to defeat in 2004. He spent the Fourth of July rousing support for Dean...this in today's Washington Post Style section:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10541-2003Jul4.html
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BillW
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 12:39 pm
Tartarin, we can't have a third party - that is what the GOP wants foremost. We need a progressive, winning candidate using the Dem party!

VNN - Bush's father wanted Bill Clinton also Smile
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 12:49 pm
Third parties in this country doesn't have a prayer. It must be part of the democratic agenda to get back the country for the People. c.i.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 12:53 pm
Hi VNN! I hate to say this (bad luck? superstition?!) but ol' Karl may be not doing so well these days. He could be right about Dean, but an awful lot seems to be going bad for Bush even as he wades deeper into various messes. Now, this may be a canny act of timing on Rove's part (get the cr*p over with now and then sail into 2004) -- who knows.

But I don't remember Daddy Bush ever stirring up as much sheer hatred as W is. There are an awful lot of people out here saying, in effect, I don't care what else we do, we've got to get rid of this guy! They're Deanies; they're disaffected wingnuts and Constitutionalists; they're hard and not-so-hard core environmentalists; they're I-dunno-who's-president-but-I-want-my job-and-portfolio-back praggies; and they're (most surprisingly) educated, moderate Repubicans.. The core support groups may well be shifting.

The question is, with two names on the ballot, which one will these very different groups choose? Bush vs. who? As an old cynic, I'm waiting for Dean to blow it. But if he doesn't...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 01:00 pm
However Dean "blows it," it can't be compared to all the "blows it" this president has put upon the American People. c.i.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2003 04:50 pm
Dean is the only one who has unabashedly stood up to this administration and he doesn't have a vote on the line showing he bought Bush's BS. He can therefore say anything - I also appreciate politics from that part of the country!!!!!!!!
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2003 07:27 pm
"The only wish for the people now is the return of Saddam. The people here love Saddam because from the time we opened our eyes, he was doing good to us. He never harmed us like the Americans."
-- Faik Madina, 50 miles north of Baghdad

Attacks by Iraqis Growing Bolder

I mean...have you ever seen a bigger ****-up than George W. Bush?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 08:37 am
PRETORIA, South Africa - President Bush (news - web sites) on Wednesday defended his use of prewar intelligence on Iraq (news - web sites), saying he is "absolutely confident" in his actions despite the discovery that one claim he made about Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s weapons pursuits was based on false information.
Democrats have argued that the White House's acknowledgment that Bush misspoke earlier this year when he said Saddam tried to buy uranium in Africa justifies a broad review of how the administration used prewar intelligence on Iraq.
Bush, at a news conference here with South African President Thabo Mbeki during a five-nation African tour, took on his critics.
"There's no doubt in my mind that when it's all said and done the facts will show the world the truth," he said. "There's going to be, you know, a lot of attempts to try to rewrite history, and I can understand that. But I'm absolutely confident in the decision I made."
Bush did not directly address the misstatement itself, made during his State of the Union address. Instead, he defended his decision to go to war based on a larger body of information.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 08:51 am
That's the tactic -- avoidance at White House level.

The latest example of this is what Gov. Kean just said about the failure of the 9/11 commission to obtain important -- key -- documents from the administration. No one, Justice, Pentagon -- no one is yielding the key stuff. But the White House maintains an attitude of cooperation (keeping its fingers crossed, no doubt, until the Commission's charter runs out in May '04).

But there are more and more organizations making stinks, pointing fingers at the president. The families of victims' organizations clearly do not intend to let this go. MoveOn and other organizations are rallying supporters to barrage Congress about Iraq invasion lies. The issues are not going to go away, and Bush is going to wind up with mud on his face... and elsewhere.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 09:09 am
Tartar, I find this administration's diversion tactics very childish, but it seems to work with most Americans. GWBush is now spending his time in Africa. What's wrong with this picture? c.i.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 01:08 pm
http://patwrite.8m.com/liar_or_moron.jpg

Both, I say.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 01:11 pm
I think he's ready to cry - "Where's my mommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 01:31 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 01:40 pm
About as jumbled a thought as anyone in the second grade. c.i.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 01:41 pm
That's probably an insult of all second graders. c.i.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 01:52 pm
Trying to push buttons and spin - only ending up insulting people, sheeeze!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 02:01 pm
"I want my Maypo"
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2003 02:49 pm
Quote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/bush_africa_anger_dc

On Goree Island, Bush Visit Sparks Anger

Tue Jul 8,12:00 PM ET
By Clar Ni Chonghaile

GOREE ISLAND, Senegal (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) made an eloquent speech but did not win many friends during his brief visit to Goree Island off Senegal on Tuesday.

We are very angry. We didn't even see him," said Fatou N'diaye, a necklace seller watching dignitaries file past to return to the mainland at the end of Bush's tour.

N'diaye and other residents of Goree, site of a famous slave trading station, said they had been taken to a football ground on the other side of the quaint island at 6 a.m. and told to wait there until Bush had departed, around midday.

Bush came to Goree to tour the red-brick Slave House, where Africans were kept in shackles before being shipped across a perilous sea to a lifetime of servitude.

He then gave an eloquent speech about the horrors of slavery, standing at a podium under a sizzling sun near a red-stone museum, topped by cannon pointing out to the sea.

The cooped-up residents were not impressed.

"It's slavery all over again," fumed one father-of-four, who did not want to give his name. "It's humiliating. The island was deserted."

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Sound familar, just like the area all around the square when the statue of Saddam was pulled down by the "orchestrated" towns people.
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