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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 11:06 am
The audience is of course greater than just one person (although Lola surely is one of the nicest and most beautiful watchers/listeners/readers :wink: ).

So please go on, George - you (both) will be acknowledged with applause .... later, perhaps :wink:
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firstthought
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 11:26 am
Bush
Gob1 your parting words could be misconstrued in the world of lexicology
ft
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 11:36 am
Firsthought,

True, but Lola and Blatham will understand.


Walter,

You are too kind. I don't handle that well - I deal better with hostility.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 11:47 am
I think its been pretty entertaining here of late, too, George ... just haven't said much myself recently.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 01:01 pm
ps
My ex-wife, a pretty if miserly little creature with whom I share a daughter and considerable on-going affinity, came to visit us a few months past. She's an American, presently living in New York. Of course, I dragged her into a political discussion and found that she had not been following political matters at all and had not registered to vote. She wrote me yesterday, informing me that I'd lit a fire under her dainty bottom, that she'd gone right down and registered, and that she was going to vote against the sitting (slouching) president. She said, "So, you DO get to cast a vote in our election after all."

Bush is doomed now.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 03:22 pm
Damn! Now I'll have to vote twice. (It's OK, I'm Catholic)
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firstthought
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 03:51 pm
Gob1 what Constitution do you go by or has Bush come out with a new one from behind locked doors : Razz Razz Razz


Is that enough hostility?

ft
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 04:10 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Damn! Now I'll have to vote twice. (It's OK, I'm Catholic)



Hmm - I'm Catholic, too, and I would never do that (you get 'hell' here for doing such!)

Perhaps you should think about how this could work for you? (Your German certainly is good enough to get the point Laughing )
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 08:57 pm
I might consider selling my vote.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 08:58 pm
I'm not quite getting that translation, Walter.........could you help please? Thanks.....
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 09:07 pm
george wrote:

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and yet jealous (particularly the French) of our dominance and relative vigor.


Now, have I ever heard this rationalization for huge atrocities over the years. It's a classic (as much as I love you geroge) pathologically narcissistic excuse for doing whatever one pleases. It is advisable to stop and think if criticisms, especially if they are consistent over time, may contain some truth. Jealous or not, this is no excuse for the behavior of the neo-cons and puppet.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 11:31 pm
Lola wrote:
I'm not quite getting that translation, Walter.........could you help please? Thanks.....


There's a guy organzing the voting of the 10,000's expatriates in Berlin - trying to get them for voting Republican. [Very short summary Laughing .]
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 07:18 am
Much time on A2K yesterday, not as much available today.

. Walter is Catholic too ! It figures! He is so patient, restrained, and polite (quite 'Old World' in the best sense of the phrase) that I suffer internally when I disagree with him. However, I generally overcome this.

I'm very glad to learn from my friend that the Young Republicans are meeting and organizing in Berlin, It will be a close election and the forces of light and truth need all those expatraite votes. I even detect some overtones of sympathy for the cause in the article - or is this just German politeness?

Lola applauds me for (briefly) entertaining her and then goes on to accuse me of a narcissistic pathology. In the next breath she indulges in caricatures of "the neo-cons and puppet". I do recall that the clinical definition of a Psychologist is one who, on encountering disagreement on any matter, asks, "How long have you felt that way?".

It is true that there is usually an element of truth in any criticism, even one from an unloved source. However a constant theme of criticism from the same source can reveal as much about the source as the object of the criticism. The fact is that France appears to have lived for decades in the grip of delusions of lost grandeur, envy, and an inability to join in any enterprise she can't lead. Perhaps this is a result of the self-awareness of the flaccid venality of her behavior during WWII. France has been oddly out of step with the world ever since - fighting to regain her colonies while the other colonial powers were casting off theirs; treated as one of the victors in the world war, even though she was - at very best - a bystander. What next?.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 08:23 am
Hi ft.......good to see you.

Now george, don't get your back up just because I pointed out that your argument is so often used by pathologically narcissistic folk looking for an excuse for unconscionable behavior. It's a poor excuse, regardless because it assumes so much, is a huge generalization about a large group of diverse people and makes the same mistake anyone in France may make who generalizes about Americans. Nonetheless, I will admit that when I've been in France, I haven't liked the caricature so often accepted as fact by so many French people. I was always embarrassed and striving to prove them wrong..........but mostly to no avail. But that's still no excuse for the outrageous behavior of this administration........who are, btw are demonstrating the accuracy of that "horrible American" caricature.

You and Walter are patient, and that's a good quality in anyone.......sometimes. So you think it's the Catholic in you both........hummm, maybe.

And for the record,

george wrote
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I do recall that the clinical definition of a Psychologist is one who, on encountering disagreement on any matter, asks, "How long have you felt that way?".



This is only the case when I'm being paid. All other times, I make the attempt to stay out of other people's brains (admittedly, I'm not always successful.) But to quote a great American, Bill Clinton. He says that his grandfather taught him that no one is perfect, but no one is all bad either. And this I believe to be true, even if some of us are worse than others.

Hi Timber........great to see you as well. Great to see you all. I haven't much time either and will have to disappear again soon for a while, but it's nice to touch base.

And Walter, I did get that much from my attempts to translate the article. But I couldn't pick up whether it was a sympathetic article or not.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 08:36 am
Lola wrote:

And Walter, I did get that much from my attempts to translate the article. But I couldn't pick up whether it was a sympathetic article or not.


I may seem to be patient - that's only the deep psychologic effect of a rather conservative education, which still come (sometimes) to the surface :wink

Unlike George, I didn't detect some overtones of sympathy in the Spigel article.
It's written in the same kind of fine humour, I'm using sometimes, which is mostly (and wrongly) called "a sarcastical/cynical undertone").

(Well, there is some kind sympathic admiration for this young man, who is undergoing such unpromising efforts :wink: )
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:20 am
unpromising, I'll say..........why would the average American expatriate want to vote one way or the other, much less for Bush? Interesting article. If only my knowledge of the German language were better..........
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:29 am
Ralph Reed has said that in the last election the dems were more organized at getting out the vote and that in the present situation, elections are won mainly on the basis of such organization.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:34 am
Lola wrote:
If only my knowledge of the German language were better..........


If you promise to wear those stockings, you can have free ... [deleted after a hammered discussion with Mrs. Walter :wink: ]

If you promise not to wear those stockings, you could improve your knowledge easily at a visit here Very Happy
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:39 am
That sounds like fun, Walter. Perhaps I'll make it along with some other a2k friends someday. When I visited Germany the last time, my German friends wouldn't let me practice my German skills........they wanted to practice their English. But you need no practice, it seems on your English..... sounds promising.

But I won't wear those stockings .....oh ....censored........some jokes shouldn't be made. Laughing
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:40 am
Lola wrote:
Now, have I ever heard this rationalization for huge atrocities over the years. It's a classic (as much as I love you geroge) pathologically narcissistic excuse for doing whatever one pleases.


*whew*

That was withering. Glad I wasn't on the receiving end.

Nice to see you back on the board, L.

Will you be watching the protests from your window next weekend?
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