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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 09:03 pm
I edited mine. Hope you all enjoy it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 09:15 pm
FROM REUTERS.
Sept. 11 Families Outraged by Bush Campaign Ad
Thu Mar 4, 6:48 PM ET Add Politics to My Yahoo!


By Mark Egan

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Families who lost relatives in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks voiced outrage on Thursday at President Bush (news - web sites)'s first ads of his re-election campaign that use images of the devastated World Trade Center to portray him as the right leader for tumultuous times.




· Some 9/11 Relatives Angered by Bush Ads
AP - 5 minutes ago

· Bush under attack over September 11 images in election ads
AFP - 1 hour, 55 minutes ago


"Families are enraged," said Bill Doyle, 57, of New York, who is active in several Sept. 11 family groups. "What I think is distasteful is that the president is trying to use 9/11 as a springboard for his re-election."
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 10:10 pm
I saw some interviews with victim survivors and they didn't have a problem with using ads of 9/11, but the way it was done they were upset with.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 10:57 pm
Dear MoveOn member,
In the months after the attacks on September 11th, President Bush told reporters that he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue." But the campaign ads he revealed today use imagery of Ground Zero and of a fire fighter's funeral to argue for his re-election.

9/11 family members are furious about it. The New York Daily News covered the story this morning:

"It's a slap in the face of the murders of 3,000 people," said Monica Gabrielle, whose husband died in the twin tower attacks. "It is unconscionable." . . .
Firefighter Tommy Fee in Rescue Squad 270 in Queens was appalled. "It's as sick as people who stole things out of the place. The image of firefighters at Ground Zero should not be used for this stuff, for politics," Fee said.

(The whole article is online here.)

If we don't tell President Bush now that exploiting our national tragedy for partisan political gain is off-limits, we can expect far more of this in the months ahead. The best way to put Bush on notice is by filling the nation's editorial pages. If we all write our local papers, Bush will understand just how inappropriate his ads are.
Writing a letter to the editor doesn't actually take very long - you can do it in ten minutes or less. Writing a letter that's short, sweet, and to the point is the best way for you to get it published. We've added some tips and some talking points below. Once you've written, please let us know at:
http://www.moveon.org/pac/bushltes.html?id=2423-1999855-7vOaCUZzFKO9zcCInYLG6Q

Here are some points you could mention in your letter:

Bush told us he wouldn't use 9/11 for political purposes. As reported by the Associated Press on 1/23/03, President Bush said "I have no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue." Now he's doing precisely that.
Our tragedy is being exploited. By using 9/11 imagery, President Bush's re-election ads cheapen a profoundly significant event that killed thousands and hurt all of us.
Just two weeks ago, the Bush/Cheney campaign attacked the notion of "playing politics with national security." As reported in Newsday on 2/20/04, Bush-Cheney spokesman Kevin Madden responded to charges that the White House has overtly politicized 9/11 by saying "I can't believe [they] said that. They are playing politics with national security."
Bush still won't testify in front of the 9/11 commission. As the Daily News reported, many family members are especially upset because President Bush still refuses to meet with the whole 9/11 commission, which was set up to determine what went wrong in the lead-up to the attacks.
The political use of 9/11 is a major part of the Bush re-election strategy. The 2004 Republican Convention is scheduled for the first week of September, timing which, according to the New York Times (4/22/03), "will allow Bush to begin his formal campaign near the third anniversary of Sept. 11."
Here are a few tips on writing an effective letter:
Brevity is the soul of wit. 250 words is the absolute maximum, 150 words is even better.
The key to publication is to pounce on something specific you've seen in the newspaper -- such as a story on the Bush advertising.
Be sure to include your name and address, and especially your phone number when submitting your letter. Editors need to call you to verify authorship before they can print your letter. They don't print your phone number.
Your newspaper's letters page should give you an email address or fax number to use, or you can try Congress.org's website:
http://congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/
Working together, we can make sure that Bush and the nation knows that these ads are over the line.
Sincerely,
--Eli Pariser
Executive Director, MoveOn PAC
March 4th, 2004

P.S. Many of the citations and quotes in this alert were collected first by the Center for American Progress in their Progress Report, online at:
http://www.progressreport.org
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Scrat
 
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Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2004 11:39 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Some people who has a need to attack the messenger needs to feel those metal studs of your shoes on their behinds.

I attacked YOUR CHARACTERIZATION of the news, not the news itself. Perhaps you honestly can't see the difference, but that is not my problem.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 08:48 pm
Update on Bush's job ratings ... approval and disapproval ratings, by poll and as average of all polls.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/anepiphany/images/bush-job-ratings_2001-2004.gif

http://home.wanadoo.nl/anepiphany/images/bush-job-ratings_2001-2004_average.gif
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 09:26 pm
Dude, if those are yours (as I suspect) you need a better place to put them (e.g. a place that makes it more visible or more readilly accessible, a wider audience).

That was one idea of the portal thing I mentioned to you. A place to better archive the research you do.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 09:27 pm
I think Bush's use of the twin tower tragedy on his political ad just dropped his approval rating below that of his disapproval rating. Just a guess, mind you.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 09:34 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
Dude, if those are yours (as I suspect)


Yeh, they are ...

its not so much that I got time too much, its that I got time too little - and whenever the realisation of that overwhelms me, I flee into making stuff like this! Very Happy
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 09:50 pm
I hear ya. I have a few distractions I do when i get busy.

But things like those hraphs are priceless. If you are interested I've been working on a way they can be made more prominent and more accessible.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 10:09 pm
Take you a long time to make those pretty coloured Christmas trees, Nimh?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 6 Mar, 2004 10:13 pm
I LOVE those graphs. I especially like seeing how all of the polls differ, and then what they collectively (average) show -- feels much more "true" than any single poll.

Down down down goes the approval rating... whee!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 06:57 am
Craven de Kere wrote:
I hear ya. I have a few distractions I do when i get busy.

But things like those hraphs are priceless. If you are interested I've been working on a way they can be made more prominent and more accessible.


Yeh, sure! I'm all for spreading the love ... <smiles>
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 10:42 am
If I concentrate real hard, can I make the orange and blue lines cross? I SO want them to...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 10:47 am
sozobe, I'm there with you, pushing real hard.....
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 12:47 pm
Here's the latest result of a poll by CNN on the use of 9-11 for political purposes by Bush.

"Is it appropriate for President Bush to use images from the 9/11 attacks in campaign ads?

Yes 20% 642 votes

No 80% 2541 votes
Total: 3183 votes


This QuickVote is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those Internet users who have chosen to participate. The results cannot be assumed to represent the opinions of Internet users in general, nor the public as a whole. The QuickVote sponsor is not responsible for content, functionality or the opinions expressed therein."
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 05:27 pm
Bush's strategy seems to be to play to the lower-middle income white male.Ah'm jest one'a'y'all!
Quote:
Bush Seeks to Bolster Regular-Guy Image
By JENNIFER LOVEN

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP)- Until last month, President Bush hadn't been to a NASCAR race since he was governor of Texas and running for president. On Monday, he goes to a rodeo and livestock exhibition in Houston - again, for the first time since he was governor.

Such appearances at sporting events this election year help Bush shore up his standing with his core supporters: white men.



They also show him as a plain-talking boots-wearer with Middle America tastes - an image Bush has cultivated for years to counter his background as an Ivy Leaguer from an old, wealthy, New England-based family. That comes in handy particularly this year, as the president will almost certainly face Democratic Sen. John Kerry, a wealthy Northeasterner the Bush campaign aims to paint as out of sync with much of the country.

Allan Lichtman, a political scientist at American University in Washington, said the events call attention to Bush as ``both the macho guy and the regular guy.''

``Despite all the charges that his administration is a giveaway to the rich, this shows President Bush as in touch with the concerns and the lives of ordinary Americans in all the ways the patrician, distant, former hippie war protester John Kerry isn't,'' Lichtman said.

An Associated Press poll taken last week showed Bush leading Kerry by almost 20 percent among white men.

But that doesn't mean the president has no work to do among that demographic. Increasing loyalty among core supporters early in the election season is a classic campaign strategy.

Furthermore, the entire election could turn on a small number of votes in states such as West Virginia and Missouri where white men are a key bloc and the election was very close in 2000, Lichtman said.

``He certainly isn't hurting with his base, but he doesn't want to have to worry about his base either,'' Lichtman said.

The Kerry campaign has eagerly publicized the senator's penchant for hunting, hockey, windsurfing and other sports. But Kerry spokesman Chad Clanton questioned whether the events are the best use of the president's time when important economic and national security matters face the country.

``Maybe the president is hanging out at spectator sports to try and make people forget the past 3 1/2 years, but it won't work,'' he said Sunday. ``People aren't going to be fooled by this.''

Activities such as throwing out the first pitch at the World Series and hosting major sports champions at the White House are longtime presidential traditions that well predate Bush.

And Bush's credentials as a genuine sports fan, who would rather turn on a game than just about anything else and avidly reads sports pages, aren't in doubt. Early in his presidency, the former owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team even instituted a Sunday T-ball league on the South Lawn.

But recent months have seen an increased emphasis.

Last month, he made a high-profile appearance at NASCAR's most prestigious event, the Daytona 500, buzzing the crowd in Air Force One, looping the track in his motorcade and officially opening the race. The last time he showed up for a NASCAR event was in July 2000, also at the Daytona International Speedway, to watch the Pepsi 400.

The Bush White House also has added NASCAR winners to the list of sports victors that get White House invitations, letting drivers pull stock cars onto the South Lawn in December.

But it's not just NASCAR, with its prized voter profile and 75 million-strong fan base, that is getting Bush's attention.

His campaign made sure that the first round of re-election ads air on Fox Sports Net, ESPN and the Golf Channel.

He helped kick off the Super Bowl with a pregame interview on CBS, aired live nationally from the White House's Rose Garden. He also offered a brief - and light on substance - give-and-take with an NBC sportscaster just before the Daytona 500.

Also in February, Bush stopped at a Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World store during a visit to Springfield, Mo. After schmoozing with customers, Bush, an avid fisherman, left with a bagful of fishing gear.

Sports even got a coveted piece of State of the Union real estate. In the January address, Bush appealed to major sports leagues and athletes to end the use of performance-enhancing drugs, such as steroids.

On Monday, Bush travels to the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, where he will tour cattle pens and meet with cowboys set to compete.

The Bush campaign wouldn't comment, since most appearances have been official White House events. White House spokeswoman Suzy DeFrancis said that while more sports venues will appear on Bush's schedule in the coming months, the events are little different from the president's travels to small businesses, military bases and other places where he makes it part of his job as president to explain his agenda.

``It's a good way to get out and participate in American life,'' DeFrancis said.


It strikes me as exceptionally sad that in America mediocrity is considered ideal. Sad
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 07:14 pm
hobitbob wrote:
Bush's strategy seems to be to play to the lower-middle income white male. Ah'm jest one'a'y'all!

It strikes me as exceptionally sad that in America mediocrity is considered ideal. Sad


I don't get your reaction. I mean, he's blatantly electioneering, for sure, but what's wrong with it apart from that?

For one, I know you love to imitate/ridicule that "all-American" accent and so on, but why is blatantly electioneering with "the lower-middle income white male" worse than, say, blatantly electioneering with middle-class women would be?

And how is trying to appeal to "mediocrity" (if you mean Joe Average by that) the same as holding it up as the ideal?

And come to think of it, what's wrong with a President sharing some of the tastes and pre-occupations of his average voter - wouldn't it be more scary if the President had nothing in common with his voters and didn't understand their every-day passions?

Just some questions ...

One thing that is unpleasant about it, is that Bush seems to have such an obvious advantage over Kerry on this ... I mean,

Quote:
The Kerry campaign has eagerly publicized the senator's penchant for hunting, hockey, windsurfing and other sports.


.. really? Hockey and windsurfing?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 07:17 pm
In politics, trying to win any group's votes is fair game. It's up to the populace to pick and chose who they think will best represent their interests.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2004 07:18 pm
Windsurfing is the people's sport. You didn't know that? All you need is a large lake, temperate weather, and some extremely expensive equipment, and...
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