Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

Lola, You're on the right track; even the honchos of corporations where they still offer stock options are cashing in like crazy, and that trend has been going on for about six months. That activity is being missed by most people - or just plain ignoring it. Some of these guys are gaining millions on one trade. We all thought the exposure of late trading was bad; I bet there are other shinanigans going on that most people are unaware of that bodes badly for the market for the next couple of years - if not longer. Makes you wonder where all that profit is going by increasing the number of stocks in the company. Not to the people holding those shares in the 401k's.

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That's right c.i., and you can bet Bush and the boys are holding their breath, hoping they can hold it up long enough to make it past election day.

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They're building a house of cards. With a little breeze, it's gonna come crashing down, because it's so tall now.

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Lola wrote:

I don't see what is clear about your assumption at all, Scrat. I asked a question, it is your interpretation that I thought it outrageous. But actually, I did think it outrageous and still do.

ROFLMFAO! That has got to be the single funniest, most absolutely idiotic thing I have ever seen in print! "I don't see why you think I meant what I meant, even though that's exactly what I meant..." Laughing

Here's a clue as to how I knew what you meant: I CAN READ.

Geezus, I haven't laughed that hard in years!

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Too bad...
you weren't eating something and chocked on it. If anybody lives with you and cares anything about you maybe they should get training in the Heimlich Manuever. Maybe you should get some pretzels.

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scrat

In my fullsome experience, I think I have met few who have displayed such a natural apptitude, even an enthusiasm, for making themselves disliked.

It could be better than this, you know. You get mean, too often. It makes reading you not fun. And why are any of us here, if not to be read? To...sorry for this word...share? Even to influence. None of that comes into play if what you write doesn't gain a readership nor, consequently, provoke interest in responding and engaging.

You'll take this as patronizing, and that's too bad. You are a smart fella, but you encourage animosity with your own.

If you dropped the insulting tone which colors so many of your posts, we'd like you better.

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pistoff

(****, I feel like I'm in Mountie-mode suddenly)

I gotta tell ya...you are in danger of making the same mistake that I just got on scrat's case for. I'd like it better, and I expect pretty much all of us would, if you'd cool down the snide component in your posts too.

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wow...we got a whiz bang auto-censor now

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blatham wrote:

If you dropped the insulting tone which colors so many of your posts, we'd like you better.

No doubt, and if you shed the arrogant, snobbishness of your posts, I'd like you better. :wink:

Don't get me wrong, I really do like you just fine the way you are. Thing is, none of us is perfect, and frankly, Lola's comments were just too friggin' funny to simply let them be. I mean, be honest... had I written the same thing in response to you or anyone I would have gotten it with both barrels.

Lola's a big girl. She can take a little laugh at her expense. Hopefully she knows that I know that one idiotic comment does not an idiot make. Cool

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Fact is...
that you post a whole lot more than one idiotic remark. You are usually, arrogant, snide and condescending. Of course this is the Net. Would you be such an ass at a local club?

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Oh goody............

Scrat,

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I don't see why you think I meant what I meant, even though that's exactly what I meant..."

This is great! You got the joke! But am I mistaken, or did you take it personally? Or did you think the irony had escaped me? Or are you just laughing at a very good joke?

It is true, I must add, that you assumed I thought it outrageous, and it was your idea whether it's true or not. You actually have no way to know for sure how I felt, especially in it's full ambivalence, even though you may have a sense that you are pretty sure (or that you know, in case you are one who forgets this principle). The evidence you took to indicate I was outraged could have other meanings to a person other than you.

here's what I wrote:

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Pagan organizations? Does anyone know a charitable organization that describes itself as "pagan"? I don't know of one. But regardless, why would the above claim be true?

Can you tell me what you read here (other than your assumption about my possible tone of voice) that led you to believe I thought it outrageous? One might, from reading my sentence, even in the context in which it was written, assume that I was outraged......but outraged about the claim that pagan organizations couldn't be as caring as Christiian charitable organizations, rather than the concept of pagan charitable organizations. One can read this as a simple question.

We each have our own anticipated responses we expect from others. If it happens to fit, that's always lovely, but often, believe it or not, it is not accurate at all. So the fact that you were correct in this case doesn't have much to do with why you assumed that I was outraged. But of course, that's your business. I wouldn't know. :wink:

I was surprised to find however later, after Blatham's post, that you believe your humor was at my expense. Interesting.

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Hopefully she knows that I know that one idiotic comment does not an idiot make.

I do believe this, I really do. Now, knowing, I don't know about.......I don't exactly know anything, but I believe..............I can say with certainty that I believe it. Rest assured.

I'm glad you thought my joke was funny. I liked it myself. And it's very good to hear that you believe I can take it. It always feels good to be recognized. Cool

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I have some advice for all of you.

Ignore the GOP until next fall.

I don't mean ignore them in the "let them get away with saying whatever they want" sense. I mean ignore the quality of their argument in the sense that they have Karl Rove at the helm of their political ship. In order to beat Rove, you have to understand what's behind the words coming out of his mouth. And by Rove's mouth, I mean the collective mouths of his many, many, many surrogates. Why ignore those words? Because Rove is a spin-master. He is Ari Fliescher on crack. He will do everything in his power to frame the debate. It doesn't matter the sins of his masters, the debate never centers on that - because Rove spins faster than a supermassive black-hole.

Rove's astronomical spin machine already has a good number of you convinced that our worst commander in chief, quite possibly ever, is unbeatable. He has you convinced of this because he is good at his job. Really, really good. Hell, he made George W. Bush President (some might say it's Scalia's fault; Jim Baker is currently claiming credit as "fixing" it, but Rove deserves his due) - and that's an accomplishment, for sure. He made a good number of you believe the GOP has a mandate, despite losing the popular vote in 2000. He even has spun relatively small victories in the south (please look away from Louisiana), and a resulting small majority in Congress as proof that the GOP is unbeatable. Yes, Karl Rove is worth his weight in gold to the Neoconservative movement.

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There's a remarkably good analogy for Rove-think, and it comes, unsurprisingly, from the corporate world these folks emerged from. Let's take for example the financial statements of any one of a number of recent corporate power-houses, like Enron. On the surface they look like an unstoppable empire. Dig deeper, though, and that empire collapses faster than you can say "Ken Lay is a good friend and a top campaign contributor". Aside from being top contributors and subscribers to the current philosophy of Neocon economic policy, many of those at the top of these crumbled empires believed their own spin - that they could get away with whatever they wanted, as long as the people were buying it. It's a miniature version of capitalism gone awry (people will buy whatever you are selling, especially if you are a good salesman) - except that it requires you to forget there are human beings involved, and no matter how good your spin, people eventually catch on.

I'm here to tell you the Bush political machine is an Enron waiting to happen. If it looks like an Enron, talks like an Enron, and acts like an Enron (and we all know it does)... it's probably an Enron. In physics it's called Ockham's Razor. George W. Bush is Ken Lay, and Karl Rove is his marketing guru, painting over the doctoring of the books every day.

There's a reason they describe Bush as a CEO President, it's because he is. It's his style. It's Cheney's style. It's Condi's style. It's Rove's style. Image is everything in the corporate world. Never let them see you sweat. Business is booming. Strength, strength, strength. The arrow is pointing up. We've made up some charts and graphs to prove it.

Rove and the Big, Bad GOP

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Tell ya what, PDiddie, I'll go out on a limb here. I really think you are wrong, and I really think The American electorate thinks you are wrong. That of course doesn't mean that you are wrong; it merely means I think you're wrong, and that the majority of voters think so too.

I will conjecture that come November, Bush the Younger will pull 57% to 59% of the popular vote, and that the Republicans will pick up at least a dozen House seats and at least four in the Senate, along with significant gains in statehouses and legislatures. I don't care at the moment to speculate specifically which seats will be involved, or which states will be carried by which party's candidate in the general election (though at the moment I doubt the Democrats have any realistic chance of carrying more than, if even as many as, a dozen), but I see the likelyhood of the numbers falling that way. Things of course might change, but judging by established momentum, that's the way right now I think it will go down.

To make it easy to keep track, bookmark This particular post to your favorites, and refer back to it as you find appropriate. I'll do the same.

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will conjecture that come November, Bush the Younger will pull 57% to 59% of the popular vote, and that the Republicans will pick up at least a dozen House seats and at least four in the Senate,

At which point I will be on a plane out of here, and the Americans and their war mongering lowbrow president can enjoy each other! Good riddance!

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Lemme help ya, hbob. Advance Purchase[/i] often is a good way to save money.

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Any country you and your ilk are not in is great as far as I'm concerned!

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hobitbob wrote:

Any country you and your ilk are not in is great as far as I'm concerned!

From the "famous" Telegraph: Immigrants alarmed by Stoiber campaign Laughing

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hobitbob wrote:

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will conjecture that come November, Bush the Younger will pull 57% to 59% of the popular vote, and that the Republicans will pick up at least a dozen House seats and at least four in the Senate,

At which point I will be on a plane out of here, and the Americans and their war mongering lowbrow president can enjoy each other! Good riddance!

Is that a promise? Can we count on it?

Do you see yourself as too highbrow for the general run of American voters? They and we will likely get by without you.

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georgeob1 wrote:

hobitbob wrote:
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will conjecture that come November, Bush the Younger will pull 57% to 59% of the popular vote, and that the Republicans will pick up at least a dozen House seats and at least four in the Senate,

At which point I will be on a plane out of here, and the Americans and their war mongering lowbrow president can enjoy each other! Good riddance!

Is that a promise? Can we count on it?

Oh yes!

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Do you see yourself as too highbrow for the general run of American voters?

More so than some......

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They and we will likely get by without you.

And I will laugh at the demise of the US! Wink

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How is the "war on terror" going?HRW blasts War on Terror

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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

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