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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
timberlandko
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 08:45 pm
Don't tell me ... lemme guess; you're from The People's Republic of Berkeley, aren't you? Laughing ...
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 08:57 pm
Having one uncle who was a secretary of the Navy for Air and the other who had some Real Experience in the Pacific (he wrote about it: hellish, fascinating, ****-scary), I have a soft (if pacifist) spot for the guys who breathe clean air out there. I hope t' hell they leak a few salty truths about that silly landing and the presumptuous banner.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 09:02 pm
And they look so cute in those tight white pants! Wink
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 09:02 pm
Tartarin wrote:
.... I hope t' hell they leak a few salty truths about that silly landing and the presumptuous banner.


Quite the contrary. They appreciated the gesture and recognized Bush's prior experience in F-102s.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 09:03 pm
What experience? You have to actually fly the bloody things to gain experience. Rolling Eyes
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 09:03 pm
You have documentation of that, George?
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 09:36 pm
He did have experience with those baking soda submarines...you can see it in the cut of his jib.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 10:17 pm
Tartarin wrote:
You have documentation of that, George?


The skipper of LINCOLN is an old friend. We talk to each other. He was there.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 08:49 am
George -- The Navy is smarter than that. I don't question your source or your integrity, but I'm willing to bet you that's bs!
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 09:23 am
I don't know The Skipper, but I do know Captain Kevin Albright, her Commander Air Wing, and Commander John Lussier, the pilot of the S3 that brought Bush the Younger aboard. Both enjoyed the whole deal immensely, and Lussier told me"(George) did pretty well ... for an out-of-practice Airdale" ("Airdale" is Navy slang for Air Force pilots). Bush only had the controls a few minutes, and performed a couple simple manuevers, but did so competently, and he, too, enjoyed hell out of it.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 09:27 am
He did pretty well sitting in the passenger seat stuffing the sock down the front of his suit?

Christ, you Bush-lovers are pathetic...
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 09:43 am
Whether he completed "competent maneuvers" or not, would the brass tell anyone if he hadn't? I mean, come on: that's the CinC, fellas...
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 09:57 am
I dunno, PDiddie, I figure its pathetic that those who don't buy the Liberal Line are termed "Bush Lovers" by those who simplistically assign all their own disapointments and inconveniences to a political boat which has left them at the dock.
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Scrat
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 10:10 am
timberlandko wrote:
I dunno, PDiddie, I figure its pathetic that those who don't buy the Liberal Line are termed "Bush Lovers" by those who simplistically assign all their own disapointments and inconveniences to a political boat which has left them at the dock.

Amen.

It doesn't matter how many times I itemize my complaints with Bush, if I write a word that runs contrary to the absurdist rhetoric splattered around these walls, I'm a blind follower of the Reverend Dubya.

Timber, if you haven't, I think you should read Thomas Sowell's "The Vision of the anointed". I'd love to hear your take on the book.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 06:24 pm
"The Vision of the Anointed"? Sounds like the title of a book about GWB. Lest we forget, he got the nomination in 2000 because the powers-that-be in the GOP decided he was most capable of being elected. They orchestrated his path to the nomination, including mistreatment of McCain, Bush's main rival. His election was, to say the least, a bit controversial, and some might say that strings were pulled in that regard, too.

Anointed, indeed...
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 10:09 pm
You know, I have to agree with PD here. It really is cause for bewilderment at how much about this president and his administration you guys are willing to forgive or overlook.

Here in Canada, outside of some relatively small portion of the community which is dogmatic and unyielding in their partisanship, folks do not make this sort of identification with party, or its leaders.

It's a great pity, and I think it is soul-destroying. For example, the quality of 'resoluteness' seems almost completely vacuous to me. Better the qualities of curiosity and humor and prudent humility. Better because they are qualities which suggest someone far more human and far less authoritarian or autocratic.

It really has the feeling to me of disconnection...that is, of a disconnection of social class and of power. Resoluteness is a quality of monarchs and popes.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 10:24 pm
Blatham,

Resolution is also a particularly useful quality in a leader charged with a difficult task. Have you ever been in a situation in which your safety, survival, or just security depended on the correct performance of a challenging undertaking by a group of people? Resolution in such situations is often more important than curiosity, humor, or humility.

While you are perhaps bewildered by the fealty others show for Bush in the face of your criticism, recognize that others are just as bewildered by the strange intensity of your antipathy. One could even describe it as dogmatic and unyielding in its partisanship.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 11:10 pm
Scrat?

You have a complaint against Bush. Please elaborate................go on for as long as you like, I'm all ears.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2003 12:47 am
Quote:
. Have you ever been in a situation in which your safety, survival, or just security depended on the correct performance of a challenging undertaking by a group of people?

Can I play too? Hmmm...well...firefighting comes to mind. I would not trust the Bush administration on a roof with me!

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While you are perhaps bewildered by the fealty others show for Bush

Fealty...what a wonderfully descriptive word. Completely innapropriate in what is ostensibly a democracy, but quite descriptive of the position many on the far right feel is appropriate in politics. Shocked
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2003 12:56 am
Hmmm, "fealty" heh? Devotion to one's lord, you say. hmmm...... interesting use of words.
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